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Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:45 PM

Does Softcore Sell? (pics)
 
Okay that's the question: does softcore sell? I was pretty skeptical but now I'm not so sure. We just opened a non-nude/semi-nude site and I'm pretty impressed with the conversion rate so far. We got a join on about the fifth visit after it went live. These pics are basically the raciest pics on the site:
http://www.webcashmaker.com/mtw01.jpg
http://www.webcashmaker.com/mtw02.jpg
http://www.webcashmaker.com/mtw03.jpg
http://www.webcashmaker.com/mtw04.jpg

The site is Model Teen World by the way.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:45 PM

So what do you guys think? Has too many years of easy access hardcore content started to turn off a lot of surfers? Is softcore the new hardcore?

Will George Dubya become the new Ron Jeremy aka the Armadillo of Porn?
Okay that was just being sarcastic, hehe.

fris 09-02-2005 12:48 PM

you mean does teen sell?

i didnt know their was a teen niche.

Bird 09-02-2005 12:48 PM

hedgehog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophmaster
So what do you guys think? Has too many years of easy access hardcore content started to turn off a lot of surfers? Is softcore the new hardcore?

Will George Dubya become the new Ron Jeremy aka the Armadillo of Porn?
Okay that was just being sarcastic, hehe.


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Thought Ron Jeremy was called the HEDGEHOG..




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ajrocks 09-02-2005 12:49 PM

It works if the girls are real hot

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fris
you mean does teen sell?

i didnt know their was a teen niche.

No that's NOT what I mean. Softcore doesn't necessarily mean teen.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rutantric
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Thought Ron Jeremy was called the HEDGEHOG..

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No really?

Well if it was Gee Dubya (from Texas dontcha know) it'd be a fuckin' armadillo wouldn't it?

fris 09-02-2005 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophmaster
No that's NOT what I mean. Softcore doesn't necessarily mean teen.

do you mean "erotic art"

if you do, met art hegre archives femjoy all sell well

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks
It works if the girls are real hot

I'm not so sure they even need to be ultra hotties. That's what we are trying for but I've been checking out a lot of the "soft" solo girl sites and some of them just ain't that hot. But they still have a bunch of guys drooling over them.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fris
do you mean "erotic art"

if you do, met art hegre archives femjoy all sell well

Yeah I guess they qualify as softcore. I'm thinking more of the tease type sites though. The kind with the occasional tit and rarely a non-explicit glimpse of the pussy area.

JD 09-02-2005 01:13 PM

I think that the main factor with non-nude/super softcore is the retentions. If the model is active inside the members area then the members will sort of "bond" with her and keep paying to be her "friend". Plus honestly the softstuff is WAY more realistic. How many of the surfers would EVER be able to see some hot chick spread the pink? The non-nude/softcore girls are something that they "could" get.

djroof 09-02-2005 01:14 PM

sometimes yes...

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
Plus honestly the softstuff is WAY more realistic. How many of the surfers would EVER be able to see some hot chick spread the pink? The non-nude/softcore girls are something that they "could" get.

Good point :thumbsup
The girl next door factor

JD 09-02-2005 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophmaster
Good point :thumbsup
The girl next door factor

exactly. you get these horny 45 year old men that get wood when their daughters friends come over and they just love being able to let loose with some eChick that reciprocates the attention. Drives'em nuts and keeps the rebills flowing. :thumbsup

Dirty Dane 09-02-2005 01:25 PM

Softcore convert decent if it is marketed the right way. However 'harder' softcore convert much better if you have a mix, like on a TGP.
If you want to keep the members, you need a lot of updates, good photos/photographers, and very attractive models. Sites like Met-Art and Galitsin are good examples. If it is a single girl site, 'she' should be interactive.

kmanrox 09-02-2005 01:26 PM

hot pics d00d

Tat2Jr 09-02-2005 01:27 PM

I've sold softcore VERY well since 1997. I haven't ever promoted hardcore.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 01:27 PM

I forgot to mention one thing. Shooting these girls is CHEAP. Less skin seems to equal more money in the producers pocket. Which means a smaller cost to operate which means bigger profit.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Softcore convert decent if it is marketed the right way. However 'harder' softcore convert much better if you have a mix, like on a TGP.
If you want to keep the members, you need a lot of updates, good photos/photographers, and very attractive models. Sites like Met-Art and Galitsin are good examples. If it is a single girl site, 'she' should be interactive.

One good thing for frequent updates is that we are shooting at least 4 sets for the price we pay solo models for our hard sites to shoot one set.

Babagirls 09-02-2005 01:32 PM

teens & softcore do not sell. especially softcore teens. there is also no money in SEO.
that is all. thank you.
~Baba~

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
teens & softcore do not sell. especially softcore teens. there is also no money in SEO.
that is all. thank you.
~Baba~

:1orglaugh

dianajameson 09-02-2005 01:43 PM

Softcore sells well!!! I have the proof!
 
I have operated http://www.dianajameson.com since 1996. My site has 50,000 pics in the members area with approx 10,000 hardcore and 40,000 softcore pics.

The members area uses copermine database software which monitors every time a picture is viewed. Quess what? In the top 100 most viewed pics only 4 are hardcore!!

You just have to make sure you get the right traffic and have a well designed site with regular updates.

Good Luck!


Diana
xxx

QuaWee 09-02-2005 01:45 PM

http://www.webcashmaker.com/mtw02.jpg
damn that is hot

loverboy 09-02-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

man, i wonder how often she hits the gym :winkwink:

:smokin

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

:hitit and hit it and hit it

aico 09-02-2005 01:58 PM

of course it sells. Would sell a lot better too if you convince some of your models in those pics to look a little more "enthusiastic". They look so bored.

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
of course it sells. Would sell a lot better too if you convince some of your models in those pics to look a little more "enthusiastic". They look so bored.

So you're saying I should tickle them before each shot?

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 02:21 PM

Enthusiastic enough?

http://www.webcashmaker.com/enthusiasm.jpg

JD 09-02-2005 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophmaster

i've got something for her :winkwink:

woj 09-02-2005 03:25 PM

3rd one from the top doesn't look half bad...

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
i've got something for her :winkwink:

Maybe she should open a spermbank? :1orglaugh

JD 09-02-2005 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophmaster
Maybe she should open a spermbank? :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

BigCashCrew Dude 09-02-2005 03:47 PM

some of those girls sell me, where do I sign up? haha

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCashCrew Dude
some of those girls sell me, where do I sign up? haha

See sig my man. :winkwink:

eamedia 09-02-2005 04:15 PM

softcore rocks!

UtahSaints 09-02-2005 04:25 PM

what happened to their boobies, man? get them implans or something...

axelcat 09-02-2005 04:29 PM

thats hot

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RS-MEDIA
what happened to their boobies, man? get them implans or something...

Oh yeah. That would sell well. Silicone titted stripper types on a softcore site. :conehead

KCat 09-02-2005 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophmaster
Oh yeah. That would sell well. Silicone titted stripper types on a softcore site. :conehead

Bobbi Billard has run a successful softcore site for years with a huge fan base. She looks like a porn star, but keeps it classy. You'd be surprised how many guys prefer NOT seeing a woman's face coated in jizz.

Doctor Dre 09-02-2005 11:01 PM

There is still a big market for softcore pornography ... it still converts well

Sophmaster 09-02-2005 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCat
Bobbi Billard has run a successful softcore site for years with a huge fan base. She looks like a porn star, but keeps it classy. You'd be surprised how many guys prefer NOT seeing a woman's face coated in jizz.

Good point, but I would consider her site to be more in the glamour niche. A little bit different but still softcore. I guess that shows that softcore does cover many of the same niches as hardcore.

Dalai lama 09-03-2005 03:46 AM

some pretty hot girls :)

prairie 09-03-2005 03:54 AM

Softcore doesn't sell at all. There are just thousands of people pushing softcore as a hobby. I spend most of my day pushing softcore just for the fun of it.

Miss Vlasta 09-03-2005 04:01 AM

Definitely!

Cute chicks by the way :thumbsup :thumbsup

Wiggles 09-03-2005 04:10 AM

i like softcore, it tends to be more alluring and a greater tease :)

Tapaz 09-03-2005 04:12 AM

nice spam , I ll give you a try. ANd yes NON NUDE ROCK! See sig!

Sophmaster 09-03-2005 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by prairie
Softcore doesn't sell at all. There are just thousands of people pushing softcore as a hobby. I spend most of my day pushing softcore just for the fun of it.

Well it's nice to have a hobby isn't it? :winkwink:

KCat 09-03-2005 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophmaster
Good point, but I would consider her site to be more in the glamour niche. A little bit different but still softcore. I guess that shows that softcore does cover many of the same niches as hardcore.

True! There are a lot of busty babes with softcore sites, but it is definitely a glamour Playboy style rather than "amateur teen in her bedroom" style. And a few years ago if somebody had said softcore I would've thought about cheesy soft focus Cinemax movies. :1orglaugh

Manowar 09-03-2005 04:21 PM

softcore always sells

tranza 09-03-2005 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks
It works if the girls are real hot

exactly...try softcore with real horrible ones.....then you tell me, or maybe you can find a new niche :1orglaugh :thumbsup


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