IBILL now seem to have a reprentative at GFY:
 

"Welcome to our newest member, iBill-Cathy "

- see the page where u choose your forum.

Talk about having your work cut out for you...lol

aint sayin much is she??

If she can swing this around I wanna hire her :1orglaugh

CC

Certianly not as active as kimmy ... so far

are we going to have a bitch fight ladies? please..... :)

perhaps she is writing some monster bitching replies to all IBill topics at the moment, and hits the reply button in a couple of hours..

*oh oh* :1orglaugh

it would crash the board

:Graucho

Why would someone from iBill decide to make their grand entrance on fucking GFY?

So they could get pounded by Ukranian newbs whining about the check box or not being able to check and see their 3 rebills for January.

I could never be in their position cause I would tell you all to suck my big fat fucking iBill cock.

Get out your popcorn.

Hey gang it's Cathy. I head up iBill's marketing and as of today communications. I'm new to this-so please go easy. Hopefully I can shed some light on what's going on here to make you more comfortable with us. I have lots going on-but will do my best to check in a couple times a day.

I have taken a peak at what's out there right now-please know that we aren't sending URLs to the FBI. Also, the following news was posted on the CMI regarding the earlier RevShare share issue-
"If you are using iBill's RevShare cookie system with the new Pay Pages you will no longer see your RevSharer's ID in the source code. The new Pay Pages are being cached for faster load time. The new Pay Pages will validate your RevSharer's ID at the time your customer submits their payment information. You can test your system by running a live transaction and view the sale in the CMI."

Sorry for our lack of communication-we're going to be doing a much better job going forward.

What fucking never fails to amaze me, is that people who actually do have something to lose (like me, quiet, etc etc ec) who have literally hundreds of thousands of dollars (some in the millions)riding on this, are the ones who do the least amount of bitching about iBill, if any bitching at all.

Shut your fucking newb asses and accept your place at the bottom of the fucking totem pole douchenozzles. Fuck I would like to strangle each and every one of you gallery posting faggots with my bare hands. Get out of this industry, you are fucking worthless.

I doubt it's in their best interest to reply to anything here...it's a no win situation to argue with these coots.

But it's more than just newbs whining. They have to take some of this into account. I imagine for every one guy here who says they are leaving Ibill there are five others elsewhere. We have a long and big relationship with Ibill but we are experimenting with new billers on new sites.

I agree with you that in that I don't really care about the stats...but rather the sales in the first place. By our judgement Ibill has made that harder, so of course it's time to look elsewhere.

If any of you homos actually believe thats iBill...

20 Bucks says it's another one of Boneprone's many, many characters.

Come on bro, dont candy coat it.. let them know how you really feel :Graucho You gotta be fun after a few beers !

Maybe the Boneprone Family needs to go in and fix the problem at Ibill like we did with the dialer lines in the Congo?

LOL

Labret you can suck my dick. I don't care how much money you make. Get off your high horse -- not everyone wants to run a paysite. I've been a whining "revsharer" since Sept 98 -- if someone is ripping me off -- you can be damn sure I am going to bitch. You know as well as I do there are plenty of con-artists in this biz -- and they don't deny it either. Keep sucking on IBill's tit.

Why are you complaining anyway? You're not the one losing money. Haven't you been reading the threads? It's the revsharers losing money dumbass -- not the paysite owners. The IBill programs that I use privately bitch about IBill as much as I do -- only they don't waste time posting their gripes on GFY -- WHY? Because it's not in their best interest! Who is going to talk shit about their own revshare program!!!??? There's your fucking answer!

Labret,

thanks for your post, nothing to add !!

2 Days ago I phoned to Ibill and talked with an employee for at least 30 minutes. I told him to read webmaster boards to see what's going on their and how everybody likes Ibill so much. Also told him about GFY . I guess it worked

what did you tell them on the phone? go fuck yourself?

You know Labret...I like you and all because you are outspoken etc.

However it does not take a big man to be outspoken anonymously.

I find it funny that you won't shed any light on what programs you run....but then maybe it's because you fear that us "gallery posters" would no longer promote it if we knew.

Hey man I'm glad you're making a shitload of money...more power to you.

I respect you for building your own little empire I can see it takes a lot of work to do that in this biz.

But with the same breath I condemn you for showing such callousness for those of us who are trying to build our own.

I honestly don't know who is making what here on this board,
but for someon to make $100K a year to lose $1K in a months time is not much however for those that represents a third of their income for that month...it hurts real bad.

I'm glad you're on top of the game...but one thing I've learned in this life and that is the only thing consistent about it is it's inconsistency and everything works in cycles.

So maybe it's time you start empathizing a bit...'cause Karma's a motherfucker.

eros

I'm not the smallest player and still every single dollar that I lose thru Ibill hurts :waaaaahh

I agree with you Labret is talking bullshit. Who is the newbie here Labret ????

Yes and I'm certainly one of those who's bitching about iBill all the time !!! They fucking deserve it !

Nope, thats not it. I have said this before and I will say it again... if you find something that makes you some decent green the last thing you should do is tell others. How many ideas have you seen run into the dirt?

For example. Back when, I came up with idea for a full page ad that was making me some ridiculous amount of money off bullshit exit traffic. Being the dumbfuck I was I posted about it on a board sharing experiences with a certain program, and I made the mistake of posting my $$$ results. Within two weeks every cocksuck newbie sack of shit ran with it. An idea that would have resulted in an extra 300k a year for me was ruined within a month by copycatting homos.

I am greedy, I have very few "gallery posters / revsharers", I prefer to generate all traffic in-house. If someone stumbles upon my programs, well... good for them, I wont stop them from sending traffic and making some cash. Do I promote my revshare? No. I am comfortable and I dont want to become over saturated in my niche.

The best thing you can do in this industry is keep your fucking mouth shut and rely on nobody but yourself.



I have no sympathy for tgp kids, gallery makers, or cj twats. You people deserve nothing but contempt and a slow death for your lack of creativity. You crank out thousands upon thousand of galleries with the same shitty fucking content, and obsess over what tgp will list you, or why the wont list you, and who has the most shitty traffic. You complain about your shitty conversions, your shitty sponsors, shaving, or whatever else it is you want to whine about... yet you are the ones responsible for the devaluation of your own shit traffic.

You people are all absolutely clueless. I'll rephrase, not everyone, but a good 95% of you. And for that, you should all die.



Dont play the game if you cant handle the inherent risks involved.



I work everyday in this job like it is my last. I do not think that porn is gonna pan out much longer, and I plan accordingly. Only a fool would live paycheck to paycheck doing smut. If for some reason internet smut dies for me in a years time, so be it. It was fun while it lasted.



EMPATHY is another word for weakness.

well said.

Labret, you seem hostile...can I offer you a tasty reefer?

Wow! It sounds like you talk from experience. Well, not everybody with a CJ or some galleries is the dimwit you make them out to be.

But once again, I managed to overlook the fact that you already said that.

Well, have a beer on me.

Agreed! I'm a freakin' super-genius. My head has those big pulsing veins, and I can start fires by thinking about it...now if I could just get on AL4A...

But of course. The only thing that keeps me from walking into a McDonalds with a machete.

you do know how to destroy other's dreams. First we're gonna see spacedog's empire.

Does the word innovation rings a bell?

You tell me one innovative idea in the last 3 years that hasnt been assraped into oblivion. Better yet, tell me one of yours you clog wearing fuck.

You can talk innovation out your ass all you want. I have been in this crap since damn near day one, and no amount of innovation is going to help you if and when Visa decides to go apeshit, or if the government goes on a witch hunt. Imagine the death of recurring... It has been discussed. There are any number of scenarios that could effectively cripple if not severely hinder how we do business. Plan for the worst.

When your sponsors die, you die. And no amount of innovation is going to save your newbie ass.

That should be a neck breaking, rip off balls, shovel in face offence.
Copycats never fail to piss me off. :BangBang: :BangBang: :BangBang: :BangBang: :BangBang:

Labret you assume too much.

You don't know my work schedule nor do you know what my plans are.

I've accepted the risks that are associated with this business in particular as well as the risks associated with starting any business period.

But I've also accepted the fact that it's a dangerous thing to piss on those perceived to be below you...because as we know in life being top dog isn't forever.
There will always be someone looking to replace you...and that my friend will happen.

As things stand now in this business I can't get much lower...LOL...but I sure can go higher...but you can't very well say the same applies to you at this point.

And as far as there not being any innovation left...if that's the way you truly feel then you my friend are a dinosaur who's chances of survival diminish daily.

Try thinking outside of the box...and if you want me to share with you some of my innovative ideas...I won't...LOL..because a wise man once told me:
"The best thing you can do in this industry is keep your fucking mouth shut and rely on nobody but yourself."

eros

too funny.

If recurring fails -- I'll move my traffic to dialers, adult friend finder, etc... Trials will be eliminated -- prices will go up -- signups should also go up w/o recurring billing to worry about -- I don't think I'd leave this biz even if recurring failed.

No, you misread. I said tell me an "innovation" in the last three years that hasnt been copied and abused to the point where it has lost its profitibility. I see lots of good ideas out there. Innovation was at its peak between 96 and 99, the last three years have been stale.

TGP being a prime fucking example. A semi decent example of something that has just been destroyed. Dialers? Good idea abused to the point where the feds get involved.

If you come up with a good idea, it will be ran into the ground by newbs sooner or later. If it is a REALLY good idea / niche, kiss it goodbye. One of the big guys will copy you and decimate you, and the news will mass produce miniatures on a grand scale.

I dont know whether to laugh or jab my own eyes out. I just have this horrible feeling that you have not been doing this very long and you really have no perspective of the last 5 years or you would see what I am saying.

Your innovations uh? I dont know how many newbs have some damn innovative idea thats gonna change the industry. Christ, my spam is 90% webmasters trying to make me millions with their one of a kind ultra cash cow of a program. Everyone has their surefire way of making millions in this, and most of you suffer from it. The attrition rate in this is staggering and it is for a reason. All of you are going to fail. Quit prolonging it.

I want you you to name me one innovation in the last year. And dont say some bullshit like TGP2 or CJ2. I am talking an honest to god industry changing innovation. One that has made people millionaires many times over.

You cant.

You didnt even want to be around between 95 and 99. It was so good it was absurd.

I wouldnt leave it, but there is no way in hell as a paysite owner I will be making as much as I am now.

Labret...I don't have a get rich quick scheme to share with you like the 90% of webmasters emailing you.

I just plan on working hard and providing quality over quantity long term.

I have a few innovative ideas. And hopefully some day I will get to put them to use and see how well they fare.

eros

yo know whats funny Labret your dried up like a fucking prune

your just not smart enough or maybe you are but need to pull your head outta your ass coming up with new ideas is the way this world works , cell phones , soft drinks , cars , houses, furniture , clothes , music, ect ect ect come on everthing in this fucking world is played out but the smart and creative ones will succeed. just like in any biz you have compatition and its funny to see a supposably big money maker like yourself getting pissed over a few thousand newbies if you are as mighty as you say you are it would make you thrive to be a better biz man and stay on top but i will give you fair warning im a stupid green fucking newbie with alot of years in a buisness . and i learned one thing thrive off compatition . and also smell blood and your bleeding

You been taking peaks at my nuts again?



Im not talking about the world, Im talking about internet smut.

I never said innovation was dead or bad. One more time for you Corky. It is like I am talking to myself.

If you manage to harnass the same power you used when getting your GED, and came up with some kind of innovative idea, and it makes money. It wont last long. Why? dirty stinking newbies.




You dont say.

You go Rambo. You obviously you did not thrive in english class.

yes thank you give me me to much credit im a 9th grade drop out and dont have a ged but it does not matter internet our not any biz on or off the net will thrive by way of creativity and everything can play out in 2 hours it does not matter new ideas will prevail every 2 hours and people will make large amounts of money beating you to the punch even if the punch only last 2 hours

must have done well in that previous 'business' - leaving it behind for gfy ;)

Labret I understand fully what you're saying.

Yes it's true there's always going to be copycats..someone taking your new ideas and exploiting them to the point that they no longer work.

But that in and of itself is not a good enough reason to stop trying...not for me at least.

I think you will agree with me that even tho' there are copycats out there it's the ones who continue to change the face of an industry, the ones who continue to be on the forefront of change are the ones who speak of their careers that spanned years, and not weeks or months.

eros

Man we've really gotten of the track of this thread...LOL...IBILL still sucks.

Labret you cocksucker,

Don't fucking jizz on people that need their $200 iBill check to survive week to week you asshole. If all your iBill shit went south you could probably still sell your car and eat for awhile I bet.

Just because it ain't big money don't mean it ain't just as important to John Q as it is to you.

iBills done a fucked up job and everyone knows it. End of story. Now how are they gonna fix it?

Nz

Congrats on the longest sentence in gfy history.

thanks but i forgot a period

Labret

you hate gallery makers !?
tell me how your affiliates send you traffic?
404, exit ?
:Graucho
maybe type in google traffic
:1orglaugh

or is that a secret too?

sitting back having a JD and some
nuts
enjoy the show.