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Wiggles 08-29-2005 02:26 PM
p2p advertising
 
any of the big shots want to help someone that is new at this, i made the files, hosting 29 of them, i'm getting hits but only like 1 download so far, not doing DRM either, trying something different.

candyflip 08-29-2005 02:26 PM
Xlogger said he will be posting all the details.

Sosa 08-29-2005 02:27 PM
Be nice to see some more info on it.

Dalai lama 08-29-2005 02:28 PM
i predict a keyboard war between DH & Xlogger

Wiggles 08-29-2005 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip
Xlogger said he will be posting all the details.
did he say when?

candyflip 08-29-2005 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggles
did he say when?
When he has time...is what he said, so who knows.

Typical GFY, some people think he's full of shit and some others think differently.

GFED 08-29-2005 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip
Xlogger said he will be posting all the details.
:1orglaugh

FreeAgent 08-29-2005 02:52 PM
Xlogger and I seem to be on the same page when it comes to P2P, so for what its worth I back the guys P2P knowledge.

Wiggles 08-29-2005 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Xlogger and I seem to be on the same page when it comes to P2P, so for what its worth I back the guys P2P knowledge.
give us some details then :)

Dirty F 08-29-2005 03:15 PM
I have the same problem as several months ago when i tried it for the first time. Im not getting any downloads. Im sharing tons of files, big movies. but it looks like noone is able to download them. I guess its an isp or firewall thing or something.

boldy 08-29-2005 03:18 PM
I share 9340939090 mp3 files. :winkwink:

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggles
give us some details then :)
I'm thinking about making a tutorial, but as for right now I just don't have the time. For now a would suggest doing some P2P advertising research with google.

fris 08-30-2005 08:01 AM
i doubt someone wants to tell you a way to make big earnings on p2p.

if you know how the technology works, its very simple.

if you have the servers, and know how to make the media clickable, and when the media closes to load the websites. and to brand the media. you can go from there.

its just knowing the tech side.

i know for one am not opening my mouth about it.

certain things when you find a secret about traffic generators you keep quiet about. if you know how to do it at low overhead costs, rather than going to gts at 10k a shot. what would you rather do?

makes sense doesnt it?

Doctor Dre 08-30-2005 08:08 AM
DH's services offer clickable banner on top of the video ... and he has his own sharing software that probably connects to all the other ones and spam the shit out of the file when people search for it ... or something like that . He's workign with a big hosting compagny too... so his solution is very viable

xlogger 08-30-2005 08:11 AM
Guys this is not hard, all it takes is some common sense.

About me posting details, i was just mad then.

I helped once by making that thread and it bit me in the ass. Wont be happning again. :1orglaugh

p2pads is still stupid btw.

candyflip 08-30-2005 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fris
i doubt someone wants to tell you a way to make big earnings on p2p.

if you know how the technology works, its very simple.

if you have the servers, and know how to make the media clickable, and when the media closes to load the websites. and to brand the media. you can go from there.

its just knowing the tech side.

i know for one am not opening my mouth about it.

certain things when you find a secret about traffic generators you keep quiet about. if you know how to do it at low overhead costs, rather than going to gts at 10k a shot. what would you rather do?

makes sense doesnt it?
Obviously he has some sort of motive. Not sure what it is and I don't really care :winkwink:

Brad Gosse 08-30-2005 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlogger
Guys this is not hard, all it takes is some common sense.

About me posting details, i was just mad then.

I helped once by making that thread and it bit me in the ass. Wont be happening again. :1orglaugh

p2pads is still stupid btw.
Xlogger,

I would caution you about the childish insults and slanderous comments about p2pads that you continue to include in your posts.

This is the last time I will warn you publicly, our legal department is already aware of your attempts to hurt our sales by saying bad things about our service whenever a thread about us is active.

Considering you have never tried our service you have ABSOLUTELY no data to back up your claims about us.

You seem to think you are helping YOUR p2p traffic by attacking us in the hopes of scaring away potential clients.

Do whatever you want with YOUR business but leave ours alone. If you don?t have anything nice to say don?t say anything at all.

candyflip 08-30-2005 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Gosse
Xlogger,

I would caution you about the childish insults and slanderous comments about p2pads that you continue to include in your posts.

This is the last time I will warn you publicly, our legal department is already aware of your attempts to hurt our sales by saying bad things about our service whenever a thread about us is active.

Considering you have never tried our service you have ABSOLUTELY no data to back up your claims about us.

You seem to think you are helping YOUR p2p traffic by attacking us in the hopes of scaring away potential clients.

Do whatever you want with YOUR business but leave ours alone. If you don?t have anything nice to say don?t say anything at all.
Now you're just getting silly too. Obviously he got under your skin and you fel threatened. He's entitled to his opinion...he's not doing anything other than that.

Now this is just getting absurd. He just said that he wouldn't be giving out any info and you threaten him for voicing his opinion? Fuck you. :thumbsup

xlogger 08-30-2005 08:32 AM
This is you're thread? Why are you bringing this back up for? :1orglaugh

What are you going to come sue me for saying the word "stupid"? Good luck with that.

Im done with it, seriously.

Brad Gosse 08-30-2005 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlogger

Im done with it, seriously.
THank you :)

Veterans Day 08-30-2005 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Gosse
Xlogger,

I would caution you about the childish insults and slanderous comments about p2pads that you continue to include in your posts.

This is the last time I will warn you publicly, our legal department is already aware of your attempts to hurt our sales by saying bad things about our service whenever a thread about us is active.

Considering you have never tried our service you have ABSOLUTELY no data to back up your claims about us.

You seem to think you are helping YOUR p2p traffic by attacking us in the hopes of scaring away potential clients.

Do whatever you want with YOUR business but leave ours alone. If you don?t have anything nice to say don?t say anything at all.
Hilarious, it really is.

crockett 08-30-2005 08:41 AM
I think it was pretty stupid for them to open their mouths about this. Now every body and his brother is going to flood the p2p and kill the traffic source. I wasn't doing it at the moment but I had a pretty good system I had in mind that I think would have done great.

I can't understand why people open their loud mouths about traffic sources and kill it for everyone else. The best thing they could have done with that P2p program would have been to contacted specific companies privately about advertising on it and not post shit like that on GFY so another traffic source get polluted by 50 billion people.

If you have a traffic source keep your dumb ass mouth shut about it.

Veterans Day 08-30-2005 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett
I think it was pretty stupid for them to open their mouths about this. Now every body and his brother is going to flood the p2p and kill the traffic source. I wasn't doing it at the moment but I had a pretty good system I had in mind that I think would have done great.

I can't understand why people open their loud mouths about traffic sources and kill it for everyone else. The best thing they could have done with that P2p program would have been to contacted specific companies privately about advertising on it and not post shit like that on GFY so another traffic source get polluted by 50 billion people.

If you have a traffic source keep your dumb ass mouth shut about it.
Exactly, 99.99999% of GFY doesnt have 3 bucks let alone 10k. Just contact the sponsors directly. Silly fuckers

Crypt 08-30-2005 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett
I think it was pretty stupid for them to open their mouths about this. Now every body and his brother is going to flood the p2p and kill the traffic source. I wasn't doing it at the moment but I had a pretty good system I had in mind that I think would have done great.

I can't understand why people open their loud mouths about traffic sources and kill it for everyone else. The best thing they could have done with that P2p program would have been to contacted specific companies privately about advertising on it and not post shit like that on GFY so another traffic source get polluted by 50 billion people.

If you have a traffic source keep your dumb ass mouth shut about it.
It was not a big secret, ppl do this for years now , even wired.com made an article about the whole setup hehe

Normally, when a traffic source is posted on gfy, 90% of the money is made already from there.

xlogger 08-30-2005 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crypt
Normally, when a traffic source is posted on gfy, 90% of the money is made already from there.
This source will be dead soon. No worries. :winkwink:

Juicy D. Links 08-30-2005 09:06 AM
:mad: :mad:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veterans Day
Exactly, 99.99999% of GFY doesnt have 3 bucks let alone 10k. Just contact the sponsors directly. Silly fuckers
Heys I have $10 :mad: :mad:

crockett 08-30-2005 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crypt
It was not a big secret, ppl do this for years now , even wired.com made an article about the whole setup hehe

Normally, when a traffic source is posted on gfy, 90% of the money is made already from there.
yea I know that.. its not a big secrect, but no use in exposing it even more. When they wern't going to get $10k out of the adverage GFY surfer.

candyflip 08-30-2005 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlogger
This source will be dead soon. No worries. :winkwink:
Be careful...from the wording of his last response, that might get you in hot water with their "legal department". :1orglaugh

Veterans Day 08-30-2005 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip
Be careful...from the wording of his last response, that might get you in hot water with their "legal department". :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Crypt 08-30-2005 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett
yea I know that.. its not a big secrect, but no use in exposing it even more. When they wern't going to get $10k out of the adverage GFY surfer.
GFY surfer will test it on a ADSL/Cable Modem , get 5 to 6k download , do 2$ and close shop.

It will work ONLY with a real big volume.

And you need a custum software as well , its not a easy task.

Ping Pong 08-30-2005 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crypt
GFY surfer will test it on a ADSL/Cable Modem , get 5 to 6k download , do 2$ and close shop.

It will work ONLY with a real big volume.

And you need a custum software as well , its not a easy task.
Absolutely.

Quoting myself from another thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ping Pong
If you think all you need is a dedicated server to run your P2P clients and share your files, then you're sadly mistaken. Don't waste your time. It's like buying 500k of traffic to a TGP and expecting a 500k/day site in result.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ping Pong
Doesn't matter if you have 10 dedicated servers, if you don't know the protocols and how to exploit, then you're wasting serious bandwidth. You need to know how to interlink your hubs, tweak settings and situate your leafs and hubs so they become the core of the P2P network, where you are no more than 3 hops away from 90% of 1.8million clients.

You need to create your own P2P application so it hides that fact that you're sharing DRM protected files. Shareaza for example shows a $$$ icon for DRM files in the result page when surfers search for videos. If DRM spam gets out of hand and affects the quality of P2P usage, developers such as Limewire, Bearshare, Gnucleus, Shareaza will automatically hide DRM files as spam, killing the distribution of your files completely.

In my opinion, Kazaa will most likely automatically hide DRM files in future versions of its software as they already charge companies to distribute DRM files.

Dirty F 08-30-2005 09:36 AM
Well setting up the movies, drm protected and getting a popup when people play it is like 15 mins work. Getting big volume downloads isnt :/

Translation 08-30-2005 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Gosse
Xlogger,

I would caution you about the childish insults and slanderous comments about p2pads that you continue to include in your posts.

This is the last time I will warn you publicly, our legal department is already aware of your attempts to hurt our sales by saying bad things about our service whenever a thread about us is active.

Considering you have never tried our service you have ABSOLUTELY no data to back up your claims about us.

You seem to think you are helping YOUR p2p traffic by attacking us in the hopes of scaring away potential clients.

Do whatever you want with YOUR business but leave ours alone. If you don?t have anything nice to say don?t say anything at all.
idiot. ANYBODY can call you and/or your company/service "stupid" all day long. if you think there is anything you can do about that in court, you are more ignorant than the rest of gfy, which is not an easy thing to accomplish.

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
DH's services offer clickable banner on top of the video ... and he has his own sharing software that probably connects to all the other ones and spam the shit out of the file when people search for it ... or something like that . He's workign with a big hosting compagny too... so his solution is very viable

Adding a clickable banner on top of a video is really easy. I will give you a hint... (Flash) I also made my own killer p2p client in C# a few moons ago. Hell I'm even part owner of a big hosting comapny. Seem like this DH guy and I have lots in common.

fris 08-30-2005 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Gosse
THank you :)
cry a fucking river, p2pads is a fucking joke, same with submitpass and gts.

what you gonna do?

if you were making so much money your office wouldnt be in a shit poor town such as orangeville.

when i see you guys in an office on univ ave in downtown toronto, then you will be in business.

http://www.stupidbrat.com/images/leavetheinternet.jpg

Trader Fr 08-30-2005 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Adding a clickable banner on top of a video is really easy. I will give you a hint... (Flash) I also made my own killer p2p client in C# a few moons ago. Hell I'm even part owner of a big hosting comapny. Seem like this DH guy and I have lots in common.
can you hit me up on icq , 320-381-148
thanks a lot

xlogger 08-30-2005 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Adding a clickable banner on top of a video is really easy. I will give you a hint... (Flash) I also made my own killer p2p client in C# a few moons ago. Hell I'm even part owner of a big hosting comapny. Seem like this DH guy and I have lots in common.
Want to work with me?

xlogger [at] gmail com

DH said he doesnt mind competition AT ALL (yeah ok). Lets show him some real competition. Let me know.

delirious 08-30-2005 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Adding a clickable banner on top of a video is really easy. I will give you a hint... (Flash) I also made my own killer p2p client in C# a few moons ago. Hell I'm even part owner of a big hosting comapny. Seem like this DH guy and I have lots in common.
Your P2P client Using what networks? G1, G2, KAD, FT?

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader Fr
can you hit me up on icq , 320-381-148
thanks a lot
I just made a new icq account. The last time I used icq was back in 2000 I think. Here is my new icq number 290-264-646...

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlogger
Want to work with me?

xlogger [at] gmail com

DH said he doesnt mind competition AT ALL (yeah ok). Lets show him some real competition. Let me know.
It would be a few months before I will be able to take on any new projects. When I do get some time I'm sure we might be able to work something out.

Above you will find my new icq. You can also find me on aim. My s/n is jameseroticy.

Loadie 08-30-2005 01:56 PM
I thought about doing this but have no knowledge on the topic. Would it help if I programmed a Gnutella bot. Have it log in numerous accounts and share the same files across numerous usernames?

delirious 08-30-2005 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loadie
I thought about doing this but have no knowledge on the topic. Would it help if I programmed a Gnutella bot. Have it log in numerous accounts and share the same files across numerous usernames?
No, That would be too easy

Hornydog4cooter 08-30-2005 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
It would be a few months before I will be able to take on any new projects. When I do get some time I'm sure we might be able to work something out.

Above you will find my new icq. You can also find me on aim. My s/n is jameseroticy.

Were are you in clearwater Freeagent. I am over here on gulf to bay and us 19

Loadie 08-30-2005 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delirious
No, That would be too easy
sorry I tried :(

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delirious
Your P2P client Using what networks? G1, G2, KAD, FT?
That information I'm not giving out. sorry

delirious 08-30-2005 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeAgent
That information I'm not giving out. sorry
Dude, how is this information holding any secrets to your huge sucess? Im simply asking as one P2P developer to another out of curiosity which P2P protocols you have experience with?

Manowar 08-30-2005 02:38 PM
there goes that traffic source, lol

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter
Were are you in clearwater Freeagent. I am over here on gulf to bay and us 19
I work in Clearwater, but I live in the East Lake/Tarpon area.

FreeAgent 08-30-2005 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delirious
Dude, how is this information holding any secrets to your huge sucess? Im simply asking as one P2P developer to another out of curiosity which P2P protocols you have experience with?
Message or email me for that info....

jay23 08-30-2005 03:08 PM
I have been doing this for a long time, in fact I wrote about it on XBIZ over 2 years ago.

http://www.xbiz.com/search_results.p...&Submit=Search

Lot of things has changed in the past 2 years but concepts are same. The hardest part in P2P is getting file density so when a user search for "milf" your movie shows up on top. It?s like SEO, lot of tricks, custom software, a lot of servers (one of my clients got over 1000 servers) and a lot of Class C IP space.

All my P2P work these days are done for main stream clients because the money is more on the other side of the fence. I may write another article about my experience on P2P marketing for AVN or XBiz on this subject if there is much interest

Jay
CTO
www.objectcube.com


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