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 Gas Violence! Dude Dies At Pump Incident 
		
		
		http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/gas.rage.ap/index.html 
	Don't know how many of you remember the other energy/oil crisis from the 70s. That was like 5 or 6 oil/energy crisis ago. But people used to punch each other's lights out cause gas went up to a dollar! Now that it's $3 and more, shit like this may or may not happen. Best be on your toes.  | 
		
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 The death of an Alabama service station owner illustrates the point that a gasoline industry group makes over and over to its members: Losing money during a drive-off isn't worth losing your life. They should also add when they catch the dude that drove off HE will find out stealing $52 worth of gas isn't worth 20 years of anal rape in prison.  | 
		
 That happened in BC this year but they were teenage punks  :Oh crap  
	A 16-year-old boy has been charged with second-degree murder after a gas station attendant was dragged to death underneath a car. The teen, who cannot be named publicly because of his age, made a court appearance for the first time on Wednesday afternoon. He is a permanent ward of the Ministry of Children and Families. However, members of his family showed up in court. Gas station, Maple Ridge, B.C. early Tuesday morning. The boy's lawyer, Greg Rideout, told reporters that the youth is upset and distressed and that this is a tragedy for the accused, as well as for the man who was killed. FROM MARCH 8, 2005: Arrests made in death of B.C. gas attendant "This has been a distressing matter for he and his family, as it is ... for the friends and the family of the victim," he said prior to his client's court appearance. Grant De Patie,24, was dragged under a car for more than seven kilometres through Maple Ridge early Tuesday morning. It's believed that he was run down while trying to prevent a driver from getting away without paying for $12.30 worth of gasoline. The 16-year-old is alleged to be the driver of that car, a stolen 1990 Chrysler LeBaron. Ridge Meadows RCMP arrested him and a 15-year-old boy from Pitt Meadows later on Tuesday, but the second teen has since been released. The accused will be back in court on March 30 to set a date for a bail hearing. A flower memorial continues to grow at the Esso station, which remains closed out of respect for De Patie. Barj Dhahan, owner of the station, said employees have been offered grief counselling. "There's a lot of shock," Dhahan told the Canadian Press. "So we're coping collectively." http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...es_050308.html  | 
		
 fake plates 
	gas up stop 2 exits up pull into resedential put back on real plates, ditch ripped tags  | 
		
 I think they have a solution to this problem. It is what 99.9% of most stations already do in South Florida. Pre-Pay.  :2 cents: 
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 The big thing to watch out for is whether these kinds of incidents are actually on the rise. With winter coming up it could get scary. I do remember the fist fights and arguments from the old days of the oil crisis when President Nixon was in office. It was a fucking comedy club. People acted like the world was coming to an end. Nobody had heat in their homes! They would fuss if the thermostat was 1 fucking degree higher. People actually put locks on their thermostats!  
	How fucking long are the people of the world going to allow themselves to be so bullshitted about energy? They pull this shit everytime a Republican is in office. Saudi Arabia, Israel and the U.S. are making money hand over fist AGAIN with this scam. It took us less than 10 years to put men on the moon from the word GO from the President but it's taking more than 30 fucking years to figure out a new source of energy???? What the fuck is the obvious bullshit scam here people?  | 
		
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 yup... even in the day time... no more gas runs...  | 
		
 That's very sad. 
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 shit i can't remember the last time i was at a gas station when you didn't have to prepay. 
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 I love when i read these fucking animals actually COMPLAIN about how "little they make off gas." 
	Cry me a fucking river. These mother fuckers dont open gas stores to sell gas anymore. The gas stations here are fucking malls. A subway a mcdonalds, and a gas station. Yeah lets feel sorry for the guys who sit back and fluctuate prices as they want in the morning and change em at night just to make money off the people coming to and from work and need gas. fuck gas station owners. go sell oranges if you think selling gas is hard.  | 
		
 sad yeah but gas station mostley make there monny from all side product like water chocolat magazine beer lotery etc etc      
	i will not put my life in danger to save 50 $ anyway  | 
		
 go sell oranges if you think selling gas is hard. 
	do you sell oranges... you look piss :)  | 
		
 I don't buy into the $0.01 per gallon profit. 
	Their costs don't rise $0.05 to $0.15 per day like their gas fluctuates in price. The price they paid to fill their tanks is what they should price the gas leaving. But they're not going to be caught with their pants down. As the prices go up they are making up for the cost to refill those tanks the next time. Their taxing customers on the front end and on the back end. There is no real reason why gas and oil should be priced as high as they are. The oil companies are making record profits off of us. That's their job. Their stockholders are happy and that's great. However, the price was ridiculous when it was in the high 1's now that we're in the high 2's and low 3's in some places something has to be done.  | 
		
 I would love to see all the people complaining about big oil, start complaining to their facist state/federal government to remove all the taxes on gasoline. 
	For Californians: The State of California operates its own reformulated gasoline program with more stringent requirements than Federally-mandated clean gasolines. In addition to the higher cost of cleaner fuel, there is a combined State and local sales and use tax of 7.25 percent on top of an 18.4 cent-per-gallon federal excise tax and an 18.0 cent-per-gallon State excise tax. New York is the worst at 30 cents a gallon on top of the Federal Tax. Oil price is dictated by the market, and the market deems oil to be valued at 65 dollar a barrel. The middle east is in turmoil, refineries have been offline, etc etc. The USA is no longer the only high end consumer... With the help of the USA offloading jobs and the continued purchase of trinkets, we have risen China to a level that they are also demanding more oil. The finger of blame can be pointed everywhere, but the root of this evil is not the oil companies.  | 
		
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 I did not see anyone crying a river when oil was at $15 a barrel and there was little money being made.  | 
		
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 I used to get gas at that station when I lived in PoCo :(  | 
		
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 What Fleth says above is true though about the mini-malls. Some of this guys stations are 5,000 sq/ft, and he makes a killing on that.  | 
		
 Gas prices really need to be regulated.  Stations are quick to raise the prices when the price of oil rises, but how often do they drop prices when the cost of oil goes down? 
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 People have oil stock in their portfolios. Oil and gas move the country. Everyone tacks their little markup on it like they do cigarettes. Add a penny per barrel means billions of $ add a dollar and forget it, you pay for all the black mail in the world in a few hours. It's like what happened to Jews when the Nazis overran Germany. I forgot what the word is but it's how people saw the danger and didn't speak up. Then when it happened to them it was too late.  | 
		
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 The biggest issue most Americans do not understand is that these high prices are caused by a series of issues, mainly of our own causing. A short list (NO PARTICULAR ORDER OF EFFECT) 1. Declining dollar - Oil is priced in dollars (as is gold), both have risen because of the weakened dollar. 2. War in Iraq 3. Lack of refineries. It is a bitch to build a new refinery because no one wants them in their back yard. Saudi Arabia said they would build one tomorrow if they permitting was guaranteed. They do not want to jump thru hoops to build something that in the end is mutually beneficial... no one has teken them up on the offer. 4. Weather/Strikes/Refinery issues. The hurricans going thru the gulf shutdown oil rigs, Nigeria had strikes, etc etc 5. China. Multi-National companies have flooded China with business to produce low quality trinkets and shoes. They need oil to do this. So while saving on labor and material costs they have accelerated China's use of oil. So the USA is no longer the #1 purchaser of oil. A lot of the above and other issues has caused the market to deem oil's value $60+ a barrel. Opec has increased production to record levels, so there is no shortage, but the market is pricing in the uncertainty... At this point, the additional cost of gas has not hurt the economy, but if it continues this 'tax' on the economy will put us into slow down/recession shortly.  | 
		
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 The middle east is FUCKED UP. That resettlement shit ain't over yet. There are some major fucking hatreds going on in Israel right now and it ain't twixt Israelis and Palestinians, it's twixt Israeli and Israeli. Just wait. With China and Russia engaged in mutual war games you can bet if their pockets get light they'll start some shit. The U.S. and Russia and China ain't enemies. They're co-horts in crime. We're saps. Plain and simple. Like I said, the price has a great chance of hitting $100 a barrel.  | 
		
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 I don't even remember the last time I say a gas station that wasn't pre-pay  | 
		
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 Yup, prepay would solve this problem :thumbsup  | 
		
 More serious problems coming up. 
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 Oil Prices Soar Above $67 Per Barrel Aug 24 2:39 PM US/Eastern By GEORGE JAHN Associated Press Writer news://newsclip.ap.org/[email protected] Oil prices rose to a new high above $67 a barrel Wednesday on concerns about a storm that could enter the Gulf of Mexico later this week and a U.S. government report that showed a decline in domestic gasoline inventories. The storm fears also triggered a rally in natural gas futures. Crude oil for October delivery rose $1.44 to $67.15 a barrel in afternoon trade on the New York Mercantile Exchange. That tops the previous intraday high of $67.10 hit on Aug. 12. On an inflation-adjusted basis, oil prices would need to hit about $90 a barrel to match the highs of 25 years ago. September natural gas futures climbed 16.7 cents to $9.850 per 1,000 cubic feet. The contract had surged as high as $10.128 per 1,000 cubic feet in overnight electronic trade. Brokers said supplies of oil, natural gas, gasoline and other products are adequate for this time of year, explaining that the seemingly unending rally on energy markets is more a reflection of fears about unexpected supply disruptions at a time when demand is strong. "A lot of this is 'just in case' buying," said oil broker Mike Fitzpatrick at Fimat USA in New York. The amount of natural gas in storage in the U.S. stands at 2.52 trillion cubic feet, according to the Energy Department. That is about two-tenths of a percent below year ago levels. "I don't see a big problem," Fitzpatrick said. In its weekly petroleum supply report, the Energy Department said domestic inventories of gasoline fell by 3.2 million barrels last week to 194.9 million barrels, or 7 percent below year ago levels. U.S. supplies of crude oil grew by 1.8 million barrels to 322.9 million barrels, or 13 percent above year ago levels, the agency said. The supply of distillate fuel, which includes heating oil and diesel, increased by 1.4 million barrels to 132.5 million barrels, or 4 percent above last year's level. The mixed picture did little to calm nerves on energy markets. "The inventories have built a little bit, but that doesn't mean an outage somewhere doesn't cause price spikes," said oil broker Tom Bentz at BNP Paribas Commodity Futures in New York. On London's International Petroleum Exchange, October Brent crude futures rose 18 cents to $64.83 a barrel. Nymex heating oil gained 1.56 cents to $1.835 a gallon while gasoline rose nearly 1.7 cents to $1.875 a gallon. With the summer driving season drawing to an end, market focus is expected to shift to heating oil as demand for this product usually peaks in the winter. Stoking bullish sentiment was Tropical Storm Katrina, which formed Wednesday morning in the Bahamas and could reach hurricane strength before hitting the coast of Florida later this week. The National Hurricane Center said the storm is expected to cross the state and head into the Gulf of Mexico, dropping a foot or more of rain. Oil companies have shut down facilities in the Gulf as precaution against storm damage. Ken Hasegawa, commodities broker at Tokyo-based Himawari CX, said "the emergence of the new storm is supporting gains." But other analysts said the storm worries may be overblown. "As with most storms, we think the fear factor is exceeding the likely impact on production here," said Timothy Evans, senior energy analyst at IFR Energy Services in New York. The market has also been rattled lately by production outages in Ecuador, due to worker unrest, and in Iraq, where insurgents shut down most of the country's electricity grid on Monday. "The markets are focused on event risk, and the fact that any small disruption in production, due to the thinness of refinery capacity, could lead to a short-term hiccup," said Joe Duarte, a Dallas-based independent energy analyst. "The market is clearly in a different zone now, being driven by momentum more than fundamentals." Iraqi exports have since begun returning to normal, and the situation in Ecuador also has stabilized. ___ Associated Press Writers Brad Foss in Washington and En-Lai Yeoh contributed to this report from Singapore.  | 
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