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08-17-2005, 10:34 AM

Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
?Xbox 360 console
?Wired controller
?Detachable faceplate
?Xbox Live Silver membership
?Standard AV cables

Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
?Xbox 360 console
?20GB detachable hard drive
?Wireless controller
?Wireless Xbox Live headset
?High-definition AV cables
?Ethernet cable
?Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
?Detachable faceplate
?Xbox Live Silver membership

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08-17-2005, 10:35 AM

Im waiting for the ps3 anyways.
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08-17-2005, 10:35 AM

$399 package is solid, remote, HD cables, hard drive, Wireless headset, all for an extra $99. Sold baby.
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08-17-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by supermann

Im waiting for the ps3 anyways.

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08-17-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by supermann

Im waiting for the ps3 anyways.

The $299 to add an xbox is too much for ya?

I'll have both, as God intended.
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08-17-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Mako

$399 package is solid, remote, HD cables, hard drive, Wireless headset, all for an extra $99. Sold baby.

bingo...here are the prices for the extras...hell the harddrive alone is 100 bucks

? Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
? Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
? Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
? Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
? Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
? Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
? Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
? Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
? S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
? SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
? VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP

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08-17-2005, 10:37 AM

It will no doubt be around $200 more expensive over here. As always...

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08-17-2005, 10:38 AM

Multiple pricing options will help sell more units.

Microsoft is getting a HUGE jump on PS3. There's even talks about sony holding off until 2007.

Microsoft and EA are going to own all of the gaming industy at some point.

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08-17-2005, 10:40 AM

I know I will be broke cause I am getting XBOX 360 and PS3!

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08-17-2005, 10:47 AM

Wow, good info TDF.
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08-17-2005, 10:52 AM

thats damn cheap.
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08-17-2005, 10:53 AM

not bad at all, the game trailers look amazing

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08-17-2005, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by TDF

bingo...here are the prices for the extras...hell the harddrive alone is 100 bucks

? Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
? Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
? Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
? Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
? Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
? Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
? Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
? Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
? Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
? S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
? SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
? VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP

since when is a 20 GB hard drive worth $100 bucks... just because Microsoft says it is, doesn't necessarily make it so.

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08-17-2005, 11:09 AM

I question the legitmacy of these prices. Especially since Microsoft said they would no longer be making wired controllers for the X-Box 360 nor will they support the old X-Box controllers. The only wire that will be needed is a cord that connects the controller to the X-Box for recharging purposes.

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08-17-2005, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Young

I question the legitmacy of these prices. Especially since Microsoft said they would no longer be making wired controllers for the X-Box 360 nor will they support the old X-Box controllers. The only wire that will be needed is a cord that connects the controller to the X-Box for recharging purposes.

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08-17-2005, 11:32 AM

Ill save up for a PS3

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08-17-2005, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by candyflip

Multiple pricing options will help sell more units.

Microsoft is getting a HUGE jump on PS3. There's even talks about sony holding off until 2007.

Microsoft and EA are going to own all of the gaming industy at some point.

Just makes getting a PS3 more likely. I thought the big deal with XBOX is that it has a HD? Well if XBOX lovers want that they have to shell out $400. If the difference between a XBOX 360 and a PS3 is only $100 I'll be getting a PS3. At $299 I probally would have gone with the XBOX 360.
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08-17-2005, 11:40 AM

damn they jacked those prices up on the accessories. I will hold out for PS3 anyways
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08-17-2005, 11:44 AM

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08-17-2005, 11:56 AM

i'll buy both

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08-17-2005, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by LittleSassy

i'll buy both

Exactly. Anyone sweating $400 needs to stop posting on GFY and get a real job.

One signup a day ain't cutting it for these future-surfers I guess...
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08-17-2005, 12:02 PM

$400 would be a bargain with all the shit it will be able to do out of the box not to mention with hacks....

I love my modded Xbox with a 200 gig drive and Xenium Ice chip! Great to watch movies on and store games etc.... I can even run Windows and Linux on it!

I bought the Xbox right when it came out and bought another and I'll be buying the 360 soon.
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08-17-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Mako

Exactly. Anyone sweating $400 needs to stop posting on GFY and get a real job.

One signup a day ain't cutting it for these future-surfers I guess...

Fuck off. $400 is a lot to anyone. I guess if you live at home with mom and dad and they pay all your bills it's nothing.
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08-17-2005, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by candyflip

Multiple pricing options will help sell more units.

Microsoft is getting a HUGE jump on PS3. There's even talks about sony holding off until 2007.

Microsoft and EA are going to own all of the gaming industy at some point.

Yeah, freakin EA bought the exclusive football licenses... I want my ESPN football back! Madden is crap.
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08-17-2005, 12:06 PM

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Fuck off. $400 is a lot to anyone. I guess if you live at home with mom and dad and they pay all your bills it's nothing.

Not if you count video games as a major hobby. Think about it: Even a round of golf is around $40-$80 where I am, on that scale these consoles cost nothing and provide many more hours of entertainment.

Those bitching about prices need to make more money, plain and simple.
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08-17-2005, 12:08 PM

They are fucking themselves by not making the hard drive standard. Now games aren't going to be written to take advantage of it when it is not a standard item. Sounds like it is just going to be for storing custom soundtracks and other crap.
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08-17-2005, 12:09 PM

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Fuck off. $400 is a lot to anyone. I guess if you live at home with mom and dad and they pay all your bills it's nothing.

Yeah it isn't exactly cheap, but it's really more than a gaming console. It's more like a scaled down computer and if you use it to the full potential, it will be worth the money. The original Xbox was like $300 or $350 when it came out, don't remember exactly how much.
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08-17-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Mako

Not if you count video games as a major hobby. Think about it: Even a round of golf is around $40-$80 where I am, on that scale these consoles cost nothing and provide many more hours of entertainment.

Those bitching about prices need to make more money, plain and simple.

Who plays fucking golf? Get over yourself already. The average American makes less than $30 a year BEFORE taxes. Quit acting like everyone makes $100K a year.
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08-17-2005, 12:11 PM

I think this source is reliable enough and confirms the prices

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08-17-2005, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin

Yeah it isn't exactly cheap, but it's really more than a gaming console. It's more like a scaled down computer.

This is what I don't get about XBOX lovers. Yes it's scalled down computer. Well don't you already have one of those? Just take the $400 and soup up your computer if that's what you want.
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08-17-2005, 12:17 PM

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Who plays fucking golf? Get over yourself already. The average American makes less than $30 a year BEFORE taxes. Quit acting like everyone makes $100K a year.

Gator why are you so passionate about this, settle down. No, not everyone makes $100k+ per year, of course. But again as I said, if this is one of your MAJOR HOBBIES then I'm sure it's easy to sacrifice in other areas. It's no big deal, it's $400.

As for golf, I play whenever I can, which lately is not enough.
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08-17-2005, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

This is what I don't get about XBOX lovers. Yes it's scalled down computer. Well don't you already have one of those? Just take the $400 and soup up your computer if that's what you want.

Cuz it's not that easy really ... I have a pretty souped up computer, but I want an Xbox that is "dedicated" for gaming, meaning I can be up and running a game fast and have no bugs in a nice little, portable package. I also have a media center, etc all ready to go in this box. I could spend a lot more on a dedicated gaming computer, but it won't be as easy to use and bug free, etc as an xbox/xbox 360. Also, not all xbox games are also released on PC. $400 wouldn't go far in souping up a computer nowadays, that would just cover a great graphics card or a good processor.
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08-17-2005, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Mako

Gator why are you so passionate about this, settle down. No, not everyone makes $100k+ per year, of course. But again as I said, if this is one of your MAJOR HOBBIES then I'm sure it's easy to sacrifice in other areas. It's no big deal, it's $400.

As for golf, I play whenever I can, which lately is not enough.

My problem is your attitude is if that someone thinks that $400 is too much they are poor trash. It's about VALUE. I could be a billionaire, but if I think that $5 is too much to pay for a product then it doesn't mean I'm poor it means I don't think it has that much VALUE. And by the way if it's "major hobby" then you'd get a PS3 since it's has TWICE the graphics rendering power of an XBOX 360.
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08-17-2005, 12:24 PM

399 deal sounds badasss thanks for the info TDF

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08-17-2005, 12:26 PM

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Fuck off. $400 is a lot to anyone. I guess if you live at home with mom and dad and they pay all your bills it's nothing.

$400 is a lot of money? That's not EVEN half of my electric bill every month

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08-17-2005, 12:30 PM

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My problem is your attitude is if that someone thinks that $400 is too much they are poor trash. It's about VALUE. I could be a billionaire, but if I think that $5 is too much to pay for a product then it doesn't mean I'm poor it means I don't think it has that much VALUE. And by the way if it's "major hobby" then you'd get a PS3 since it's has TWICE the graphics rendering power of an XBOX 360.

No offense though I'm sure you're going to take this the wrong way but...That opinion is extremely rare among those who make a decent living.

I say that because either of the systems is a tremendous value by any definition of the word. They all deliver PC levels of realism in games for half the price. In fact, just an nVidia 7800GTX (PS3 equivalent video card) or a pending ATi R520 (Xbox360 equivalent video card) costs $500. Alone. With no PC.

They're incredible values in that light. And you're incorrect on the PS3's rendering power, it's roughly equivalent to the Xbox360's as noted above. There will be no visible difference between the titles on either system, both will be top tier.
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08-17-2005, 12:31 PM

this thread has been up top all day

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08-17-2005, 12:32 PM

Xbox 360 vs. PSP3

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08-17-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

Just makes getting a PS3 more likely. I thought the big deal with XBOX is that it has a HD? Well if XBOX lovers want that they have to shell out $400. If the difference between a XBOX 360 and a PS3 is only $100 I'll be getting a PS3. At $299 I probally would have gone with the XBOX 360.

It's not really a question of price and what is the more powerful app. Most people who play games will have both anyhow. Microsoft is shaking things up by cutting the cycle short by at least a year...in an attempt to force PS3 to play catch up. Hardcore PS3 fans will end up playing an XBox because there won't be anything comparable for a year.

XBox360 launches in less than 90 says. PS3 is at least a year away...maybe two. That's gonna be a tough one to win.

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08-17-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by candyflip

It's not really a question of price and what is the more powerful app. Most people who play games will have both anyhow. Microsoft is shaking things up by cutting the cycle short by at least a year...in an attempt to force PS3 to play catch up. Hardcore PS3 fans will end up playing an XBox because there won't be anything comparable for a year.

XBox360 launches in less than 90 says. PS3 is at least a year away...maybe two. That's gonna be a tough one to win.

Good points. Both systems will do well mainly because there are established game franchises that are exclusive to them.

Examples:

For the PS3, I need to own one simply so I can play future Gran Turismo and Solid Snake titles.

On the Xbox, I need to own one simply to play future Halo and a few other smaller titles.

Both win. But Sony has pinned themselves in a corner by being not only late, but likely +$100 higher in price at the same timeframe for the same package next June (PS3 launch month). That's going to be a stiff kick in the balls for them the first six months but once their exclusive franchises ship later that year they'll be fine.
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08-17-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Mako

And you're incorrect on the PS3's rendering power, it's roughly equivalent to the Xbox360's as noted above. There will be no visible difference between the titles on either system, both will be top tier.

Last time I did my math 2 teraflops is TWICE that of 1 teraflop.
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08-17-2005, 12:49 PM

It's already out in europe?
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08-17-2005, 12:51 PM

Was never really impressed with the original Xbox... don't know if I'll buy one of these. Will probably also wait for the PS3's. And no I am not poor, but I do often buy 2 of these things, 1 for my kids and another for my house for when my kids stay over.
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08-17-2005, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Mako

But Sony has pinned themselves in a corner by being not only late, but likely +$100 higher in price at the same timeframe for the same package next June (PS3 launch month). That's going to be a stiff kick in the balls for them the first six months but once their exclusive franchises ship later that year they'll be fine.

Sega's Dreamcast came out well over a year before PS2 or XBOX and so if coming out of the gate early is an advantage why did it go down the crapper?

Just like there will be people that buy XBOX 360 without even considering a PS3 just because to them it's XBOX or nothing they are as many( probally more ) Playstation owners that feel the same way about PS3.

As I said if it's a difference of $100 I'll most likely go with a PS3. Now if there is not a significant difference between a XBOX 360 and PS3 graphicswise and the HD is not necessary to play games or save them( assuming there will some sort of memory card option for XBOX 360 ) and XBOX 360 has nearly as many games available as PS3, well then for $299 I'll probally get that.
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08-17-2005, 01:14 PM

i wait for ps3

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08-17-2005, 01:29 PM

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Sega's Dreamcast came out well over a year before PS2 or XBOX and so if coming out of the gate early is an advantage why did it go down the crapper?

Just like there will be people that buy XBOX 360 without even considering a PS3 just because to them it's XBOX or nothing they are as many( probally more ) Playstation owners that feel the same way about PS3.

As I said if it's a difference of $100 I'll most likely go with a PS3. Now if there is not a significant difference between a XBOX 360 and PS3 graphicswise and the HD is not necessary to play games or save them( assuming there will some sort of memory card option for XBOX 360 ) and XBOX 360 has nearly as many games available as PS3, well then for $299 I'll probally get that.

While the Dreamcast was a great machine, Sega knew that that had an inferior product. They knew they couldn't compete.

That's not the same here. At this point we have a working XBox360, I don't think we've seen anything from Sony aside from specs and case mockups. Point by point break down sqaure the two up nicely. In this case, Microsoft has an advantage.

Check see how much Shit-slinging Sony has been doing. They will lose marketshare for sure. My mom refused to buy the actual consoles growing up. My father has an XBox360 on reserve. Their marketing is already working.

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08-17-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

Sega's Dreamcast came out well over a year before PS2 or XBOX and so if coming out of the gate early is an advantage why did it go down the crapper?

Just like there will be people that buy XBOX 360 without even considering a PS3 just because to them it's XBOX or nothing they are as many( probally more ) Playstation owners that feel the same way about PS3.

As I said if it's a difference of $100 I'll most likely go with a PS3. Now if there is not a significant difference between a XBOX 360 and PS3 graphicswise and the HD is not necessary to play games or save them( assuming there will some sort of memory card option for XBOX 360 ) and XBOX 360 has nearly as many games available as PS3, well then for $299 I'll probally get that.

Easy: Sega had no ingrained software franchises, hence the Dreamcast, though early, had no impact.

The smart gamers will get both systems, and along with every Wall Street analyst who covers this sector, I agree that Sony has a tough uphill fight coming to the party six months late with hardware priced $100 over the competition.

Still, both will flourish and do well, because again, they have software franchises worth playing.
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08-17-2005, 01:35 PM

Anyone know where we can pre order xbox 360 ?

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08-17-2005, 01:43 PM

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Anyone know where we can pre order xbox 360 ?

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08-17-2005, 01:52 PM

wouldn't pay 300-400 for a console.

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