If you are using Ibill, Why?
 

If you are using Ibill I just want to know why? I cannot see any reason to, so please enlighten me with your wisdom.

Becasue they cant be arsed to change to Globill as shown in my sig

Doesnt glowbill email the customer the day befor they rebill to let them know they need to cancell if they dont want to keep the subscription

thats why a lot of people I know that used them left

dont know if they still do that though

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no! there's an option to turn that ON/OFF.. default is OFF

Because CCBill doesn't do 900......

Good point!

CCBILL, you out there? Where is the 900 billing option?

When I was in CCbills office the other day and we asked about 900 billing there response was

"When 900 billing can prove you are over 18 they will add it"


great response I think We use Ibills 900 billing but CCbill has a good point

Can you get your own phone account if you are under 18? If not, you would think that parents would see the bill, but then it is too late; I guess.

Anyway, there are plenty of people using 900 #s, even Globill has they option, right?

Has anyone ever had a problem with the 900 #s and age?

Well that is kinda dumb, I see ccbills point, but since when does having a credit card prove your 18?

I had a credit card at 17, and that was 15years ago.

Plugger, do you really think CCBill is going to reply on a board on a Saturday night? Not. The CCBill crew is all hanging out in Scottsdale.....

"Doesnt glowbill email the customer the day befor they rebill to let them know they need to cancell if they dont want to keep the subscription

thats why a lot of people I know that used them left "


THE ANSWER IS NO.

Under the Helms Amendment, the use of a verified credit card creates a rebuttable presumption that the user is over the age of 18. The Helms Amendment was the law upon which the Child Online Protection Act (COPA) was patterned. The idea is that by requiring a credit card, there is some degree of certainty that the user is not a minor.
Can someone under the age of 18 possess a credit card? Yes, however to get the credit card, there has to be an application. A credit card application is a contract and if you are not old enough to sign a contract you're required to have a joint signature from a parent or guardian who then assumes the responsiblity of monitoring and managing purchases made on that credit card. So, if "Daddy" gives his son some plastic in the son's name, "Daddy" is responsible for the monitoring of the use of that credit card.
Therefore when a valid credit card is used to purchase a site membership, the site owner is no longer held liable if the purchaser was a minor, the responsibility lies with the minor's parents/guardians.
The Helms Amendment and COPA are also the foundation upon which AVS systems are built. (Valid Credit Card=Age Verification)

To my knowledge there is no legal precedent for a 1-900 phone call counting as age verification, so some companies choose to use 900 billing and others don't. (Alot of sponsors that use Ibill still don't offer 1-900 billing for this reason)

Isn't this thread talking about ibill? :1orglaugh
I use ibill cause i don't like ccbill's webmaster page. :glugglug

very good point lenny2

Globill has a BIG HOLE on their Security.
Everyone can create passwords easily without any form fillings.
No Credit card and other things to make your password
just some codes are enough

if you wanna see i can show ya