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SmokeyTheBear 08-12-2005 11:06 AM

Is GOOGLE getting a big head ?
 
Google just shocks me sometimes.. these guys are getting scary..

They are planning on scanning books from the biggest universities in the u.s. to add to its search index..

Umm wtf ?? did i just read that right.. google wants to steal everyones copyrighted material and add it to google for free .

Um well gee, i would like to do that also.

Scan books from library's that you dont own , then offer them on the internet for free ( well besides my advertising )

The kicker is , they are offering an OPT-OUT to the book owners, if you dont want your books stolen and reproduced you have to contact them and have your book opted-out..

hahahah

Excuse me sir i want to steal your shit and give it away to everyone, but if you tell me ahead of time i wont steal it..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050812/...ary_copyrights

Theo 08-12-2005 11:08 AM

i hope their stock will sink for good soon or late

SmokeyTheBear 08-12-2005 11:08 AM

Funny , because just yesterday i was mentioning to someone about "chiltons" manuals ( car repair manuals ) and i was thinking , why dont these shmucks have this shit online.. Instead of waiting 2 weeks for the damn manual to arrive..

Little did i know i could start a whole business just scanning the expensive manuals and giving them away for free online. lol

whoops i forgot , i'm not google , i would be arrested.

Dirty Dane 08-12-2005 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Umm wtf ?? did i just read that right.. google wants to steal everyones copyrighted material and add it to google for free .

No, you did not read that right:

Quote:

"We think most publishers and authors will choose to participate in the publisher program in order (to) introduce their work to countless readers around the world," Smith wrote. "But we know that not everyone agrees, and we want to do our best to respect their views too."
:winkwink:

pornstar2pac 08-12-2005 11:19 AM

google just saw this thread and is scanning it to their index as we speak

warlock5 08-12-2005 11:26 AM

I think they are are doing it so you can search the books, not just read the whole damn thing online.

But think about, libraries are even worse. How would you feel if public libraries had one subscription to your porn sites and anyone could just show up, download everything, copy it to a disc, and leave? Thats what book publishers deal with.

WiredGuy 08-12-2005 11:28 AM

Why stop there, I say go and scan playboys and penthouses too :)
WG

thaifan99 08-12-2005 11:30 AM

world domination is the aim..... you will all be assimilated.

googling is compulsory!

Rinaldo 08-12-2005 11:34 AM

Yeah libraries are the real thieves lol

Sosa 08-12-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Why stop there, I say go and scan playboys and penthouses too :)
WG


I've heard that works pretty good!

Linkster 08-12-2005 11:38 AM

Why would that surprise anyone - they already do it with your websites - keeping a cached copy of your copywrited work without your permission - oh thats right - you can opt out by putting a meta on your pages to disallow caching :1orglaugh

Due 08-12-2005 11:41 AM

What a great idea.
I'll start doing the same thing with movies from blockbuster.

OTerror 08-12-2005 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due
What a great idea.
I'll start doing the same thing with movies from blockbuster.


lol goodluck with that

SmokeyTheBear 08-12-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
No, you did not read that right:



:winkwink:


or you didnt read far enough..

Google wants publishers to notify the company which copyrighted books they don't want scanned, effectively requiring the industry to opt out of the program instead of opting in.

Hollywood Horwitz 08-12-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
google just saw this thread and is scanning it to their index as we speak

:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 08-12-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo
Yeah libraries are the real thieves lol

i'm pretty sure libraries pay royalties ... i could be wrong though.

Downtime 08-12-2005 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
google just saw this thread and is scanning it to their index as we speak

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Rui 08-13-2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Why stop there, I say go and scan playboys and penthouses too :)
WG

~
Thats how it all started for many people many moons ago :winkwink:

thaifan99 08-13-2005 01:00 PM

Anyway....big heads are popular

$5 submissions 08-13-2005 02:36 PM

I hope the potential conflicts and issues are resolved soon because this will definitely take online research to another level. Webmasterlabor.com does researched and referenced blog entries on a bulk basis and this development would definitely add a lot more value to the blogs we do. Cross references and linked sources and annotations definitely add more value.

mardigras 08-13-2005 02:39 PM

Google is the new Yahoo, fodder only for the advertisers... fortunately Yahoo saw to correct that and is regaining market...

Dirty Dane 08-13-2005 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
or you didnt read far enough..

Google wants publishers to notify the company which copyrighted books they don't want scanned, effectively requiring the industry to opt out of the program instead of opting in.

This was what you wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Umm wtf ?? did i just read that right.. google wants to steal everyones copyrighted material and add it to google for free .

I see the difference by indexing and stealing. Do you? If its in the library for free anyway, whats the big deal?

From the article on yahoo (which is their competitor) they make it sound that this is not good for the publishers and that they will not pay them. Thats cheap propaganda. Now do some research, instead of believing all thats written on the web:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/...r-to-find.html
Google themself write; "..direct potential buyers to your website, provide ongoing reports about user interest in your books, and your books will also earn revenue from contextual advertising"
:upsidedow :upsidedow

xclusive 08-13-2005 03:13 PM

Google is above the law...:(

mardigras 08-13-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I see the difference by indexing and stealing. Do you? If its in the library for free anyway, whats the big deal?

I see the difference between the library having a copy to check out and the library making instant free copies for everyone who wants one. Do you?

mardigras 08-13-2005 03:28 PM

:helpme
Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive
Google is above the law...:(

There is record of this.
Why put restrictions on a valuable tool for law enforcement? :winkwink:

[illnet]-Tracie 08-13-2005 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaifan99
world domination is the aim..... you will all be assimilated.

googling is compulsory!

:1orglaugh So true!

Dirty Dane 08-13-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
I see the difference between the library having a copy to check out and the library making instant free copies for everyone who wants one. Do you?

There's a difference in accessibility, nothing else. If publishers are paid from the library, a bookstore or from advertisings at a website makes no difference to me. I don't think this will hurt the publishers financial, because in the end it will reach more people. It's not piracy, and if the music and movie industry would follow same path, they would make money instead of fighting technology.

datatank 08-13-2005 03:47 PM

http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/i..._Googlezon.jpg

pornguy 08-13-2005 03:58 PM

It comes down to the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Scootermuze 08-13-2005 04:30 PM

All sorts of ideas pop up when you're sittin' around all bored...

D12 08-13-2005 04:37 PM

Can someone help me with statistics:
how many people visit google (in one day)

mardigras 08-13-2005 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
There's a difference in accessibility, nothing else. If publishers are paid from the library, a bookstore or from advertisings at a website makes no difference to me. I don't think this will hurt the publishers financial, because in the end it will reach more people. It's not piracy, and if the music and movie industry would follow same path, they would make money instead of fighting technology.

Publishers are not paid from libraries. Libraries loan the copies they have out but don't provide a free permanent copy to those who want one. It would hurt publishers if they did, same if they were giving out free permanent copies of music and video to everyone who wanted one.

1215 08-13-2005 05:02 PM

its free at the library too. who cares?

Due 08-14-2005 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1215
its free at the library too. who cares?

Publishers get paid for having their books at the library.

woj 08-14-2005 12:35 AM

They are probably scanning it just so they can index it, I really doubt they would show full copies of the books to anyone... at least not yet, down the line, they would probably create a site like amazon where they would sell digital books from...

JuiceMonkey 08-14-2005 12:37 AM

google IS god

StatsJunky 08-14-2005 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D12
Can someone help me with statistics:
how many people visit google (in one day)

About a third of everyone online.

Furious_Female 08-14-2005 02:33 AM

Be afraid, be very afraid.

SmokeyTheBear 08-14-2005 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I see the difference by indexing and stealing. Do you? If its in the library for free anyway, whats the big deal?

I dont see a difference.. If i publish a book, i wan't it read in a certain way , its art , it would be like reproducing andy warhol on pabst beer labels..

Can i "index" my monthly issue of playboy ? I think not...

As i said initially you didnt read far enough , its an opt-out approach meaning publishers/authors have no choice unless they contact google..

Would it be all right for me to reproduce playboy/hustler/time magazine/people etc every month, for "indexing" ..
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

From the article on yahoo (which is their competitor) they make it sound that this is not good for the publishers and that they will not pay them. Thats cheap propaganda. Now do some research, instead of believing all thats written on the web:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/...r-to-find.html
Google themself write; "..direct potential buyers to your website, provide ongoing reports about user interest in your books, and your books will also earn revenue from contextual advertising"
:upsidedow :upsidedow

So yahoo is "cheap propoganda" then you quote google writing propoganda for itself.. ?.

I posted the yahoo link for a reason , this is gfy , if i had posted 50 indy news links nobody would have read past the first line.


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