im a noob: explain to me why css makes tables obsolete?
 

Is it because you can determine the position of an item on the page?

Are tables a thing of the past?

I never use css.. im still stuck in the 90's and that scares me.

its ok dude .. :thumbsup

learn css sooner than later, built into DW aswell

css is a great tool, learn it

Thankie :-)

tables aren't obsolete. sometimes you need to use them to overcome bugs in the way IE uses css. i.e. the 3 pixel bug:mad:

wuushuuuu nice edit dude..... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nah not quite, there's always some sort of fix that'll do the trick.

css has a number of advantages over tables for layouts. tables DO have a purpose, and that's just to show tabular data.

- a lot less coding for the spiders to crawl
- css with xhtml = standards compliant
- better for things like screen readers

and there are more, but these are the major ones.

I'll stop. Just a couple of more posts..

You already started your crusade? Cool, let's see how much time you last... :glugglug

you ever actually look at the css files on some of these sites...?
they can be fucking huge.

Check out this site, it should help you out getting started:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/

cheers

css and html in combination is the best route IMO; only using one of the two isn't a wise choice

http://bluerobot.com/web/css/center1.html

http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/layout3.html

YARGH! Check this site for a good example of why css kicks ass.

Each page you see (new design) uses the exact same html.
http://www.csszengarden.com

:1orglaugh

buddy, you can't use css without html. HTML is ALWAYS present.

i've seen more fucked up pages using a CSS layout than I have pages using tables.

tables are your friend.

yeah that's because the newbies who tried dev'ing the css didn't know what they were doing.

tables are the enemy of layouts.
css is your friend.

tables are good, easy and take up a a HELL of a lot less code, if you are spitting our 20 pages of reports

table will be arround