Thinking about movine off shore?? Put in your info if you already are!
 

Ok. I have seen a bunch of threads about trying to get info about moving affshore. So, anyone that ives off shore, please post in this thread to help thise considering it.

I will be posting about Mexico. I live just south of the border. My experiances may not be the same as yours, and are therefore not right ir wrong.

There are some things to consider before you pack up and move.

1. where would you like to go?
2. what do you plan to take with you?
3. how do you plan to make a living?
4. is what you do legal?
5. Will you have enough money to get back if the new country doesn not work out the way you planned?
6. do you need a visa
7. can you bring your pets
8. can you bring your car.
9. how do you plan to do banking?
10. what is the cost of living.
11. do you understand that there is NOT a walmart on every corner?
12. if you have children where and how will they be schooled?
13. Is there high speed connection?
14. What do I need to purchase land?

These are some of the things to consider.

We live in Mexico, just south of the border. I will hit each number in order with a brief statment.

1. where would you like to go?
We chose Mexico, because of being close to the water and the border!

2. what do you plan to take with you?
We brought our clothes, computers, and a few furniture items to avoid the import fees. We are Americans, and therefore rich in the Eyes of the Mexican government.

3. how do you plan to make a living?
We do porn, and also the mainstream work. We are also working on opening a new business.

4. is what you do legal?
Semi legal. It is done in the home, so I dont need a licnese.

5. Will you have enough money to get back if the new country doesn not work out the way you planned? Yes. Load the truck, pay the 2.40$ toll on the express way, sit in 3 hours of border traffic, and I am back in the US.

6. do you need a visa?
No. Providing you dont go south of Ensenada. If you do, a tourist visa is 20$ and you can buy it when you get to the destination.


7. can you bring your pets?
Yes. Bring their shot record. Or get the shots in Mexico for 1/3 the price.


8. can you bring your car.
If you plan on living more than 66 miles fomr the border you should import your car. there are restrictions on this. But, if you say you are on vacation, and have a tourist visa, you can be anywhere in Mexico.

9. how do you plan to do banking?
We have a bank in the US, and one in Mexico. To get an account in Mexico, we had to have an FM3. which is like a green card in the US. but a lot easier to get.

10. what is the cost of living.
Cost of living is cheap. Electricity for a 3/3 is about 60 to 80 dollars a month. GOOD beef is about 9 dollars a kilo. 2.2 pounds. and out rent of an older house is 420$. A friend bought a very nice 3/3 in a great community for 135k. 3 blocks from the beach. Gas for the car is at about 2.20$ per gallon. Compare to San Diego for about 2.60$ a gallon.

11. do you understand that there is NOT a walmart on every corner?
the closest walmart is either in San Diego or Mexicali. We do have a Sams and a Costco, but they do not sell all of the same things. And the quality of some of the items that you recognize is not the same.

12. if you have children where and how will they be schooled?
We will be home schooling our son, as the school system here sucks major ass.

13. Is there high speed connection.?
Yes. With the phone company you can get dsl, with the cable comepany you can get a cable modem, and there is a company that offers radio.

14. What do I need to purchase land?
In Mexico, you will need an FM3, which is easy to get, and a bank trust is you plan to live withing 66 miles of the border or the water. the bank trust is about 2k, and after that about 300 a year. the bank actually owns the home or land, but you can sell it, transfer it or will it to someone. No restrictions on the trust. But there are few home loans given here, and when they do it is 18 to 26%.



Now I am sure that I lef a lot out, and I will add more as the thread goes. If anyone has any questions, you can hit me on ICQ.

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Great post, and very imformative. I just wish I could talk the wife into moving to Mexico.

Mexico is cheap but it sucks....I'd be bored to DEATH down there.

Thanks for the brilliant reply. if you are not planning on moving out of the country that you currently live in, why waste the post? The time???

Never mind.

there can be a lot to do if you are into the things available. But You prefer balck ladies right?? Well we dont see much of them down here. but when we do, they are usually rich, and hot.

I am surprised that there is not more interest in this thread. Oh well. Wasted my time.

What are your monthly expenses total living down there?

I'd love to live in a country where i can fuck up & pay my way outta jail.

You did not waste your time it was a great post and very good to hear somebody that actually has the experiance. My wife has a lot of family down there so I know the rules pretty well but with so many people always wanting to get off shore this is a great post and thank you.

or you can fuck up and not live to see the chance to pay your way out of it. corruption is always a double edged sword... it can work against you just as well as it can work for you.
:2 cents:

i'm talking about being caught with a pound of cheeb.....not murdering someone

Rent: 400$

electricity: 40$ per month.

Connection : 75$ with the comapny that uses radio.

Gas for my truck: 200$

Gas for the house: 60$

Food for the house: 150 to 200$

eating out ranges from 1$ for a taco to 30 or 40$ for a meal in a nice place.

Buying out of trouble from the cops, 20$ to a few K. dependsing on what you did. CASH ONLY!

I head of some people that got out of a DUI for 4 dollars.

So in reality you can live and work in Mexico and drive to CA when you need to shoot content. That wouldnt be so bad, electric sounds very cheap do you have AC in your house?

i spend $16 a month in police bribes here, that's 8 traffic infringements =)

Get out of the trailer park sometime....It's a big world out there....In the Dominican Republic you can get a DEATH sentence for having a JOINT of cheeb.

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You can rent a house in Negril, Jamaica for $200....Plus the women roll your joints for you.

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It's a great thread, I hope a few more that have 'actual' experience in moving offshore share their information as freely as you have.


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Here, maybe this will shut you up

http://www.mrsmoothie.com/images/bannana.jpg

oh snap!

Dont forget a boat to get back onshore ;)

Here, maybe this man will pay your hospital bills so your sickly ass will stop BEGGING on gfy.....Retard redneck.

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i am talking about the general notion that you can buy your way out of everything in a corrupt country. the other side is that you can piss off the wrong person for absolutely no real reason and suddenly be "caught" with an oz. of heroin in your pocket and be in prison the next day. you can be the target of all sorts of scams and fraud you only heard about in movies. you can be the victem of people who would happily trade your life for $1000 dollars so they can buy a nice jacket and new shoes for dinner that evening and no one will ever even find the body.

pornguy what was your reason for moving to mexico in th first place

how about crime ?

do you feel safe down there, or do you live in a house surrounded by barbed wire just like we do here in South Africa?

Also how do you get thir version of the Green Card? You said it was easy but what exactly do you mean by easy, do you juast pay you way to getting one, or do you have to do something else?

you make it too complicated, sell EVERYTHING. take a backpack with the essentials and go exploring for a place you like and settle down and reprioritize when youre there.

when you try to move your life with you, you wont find what youre looking for.

- Seth

you do that when you're in your early 20s, once you get older you need your comfort and securities ;)

What a shame this post turned to shit - probably because the poster wanted us to deliver it to him on a plate.

I'm not in the US to start with and none of my business is here. I have both Euro and US companies (both pay tax and obey the law there), I host primarily in Malaysia - cheap bandwidth but have a backup in the US. And I source content from independent photographers all over the world - complying with 2257 by getting proof of ID before payment.

I'm sure if you wanted to avoid any of the rules it wouldn't take too much creativity.

you have to redefine offshore, you just moved. Something completely diffrent.

Pornguy

Excellent thread, thanks

I'm thinking you must be on the Pacific side of Mexico right .. below California?
I'm in Texas and on this side of Mexico (gulf side) the cost of living is much less.

First I'd like to say that NOBODY wants to live in a central area border town around here. There is an all out war going on between the drug lords and the local police. I'm talking rocket launchers and everything. The national army has been there for well over 6 months trying to regain order.

Having said that, in places like Matamoros, Tampico there are no problems.
You can rent a 4/4 house near the ocean for about $200.

There are even retirement communities in Mexico where the only non-white you will see around are household staff. For 40k a year you can literally live like a king.

Now if you go to Cancum, Cozumel or Belize (or on the other side, Mazetlan, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco).. well thats a whole different story. Tourist areas are expensive.

great info thanks :thumbsup

i guess thats the difference between a midlife and quarterlife crisis

We just wanted some property near the beach, and in Florida, you can not get this without spending a ton of money, not only on the purchase, but on the taxes every year.

We had a some ( inland ) property, sold it, and moved.

Yes we did move. But we also have servers in mexico as well as the states. We did not move because of the job. We moved because we wanted to.


You will NEVER be able to really move from the long arm of the US. One way or another they can get you. Remember that Visa is a US based corporation, and they have federally issued licenses, that can be revoked.


But I know that a lot of people feel that they US is less likely to send someone to Mexico, Panama, or South America to check 2257.

Living here is safe.

the war that someone spoke about in the border towns along Arizona and Texas, has very little to do with Americans. You could still get killed in a drive by, but that can happen in NY!

We have a fence around the house that we live in, but if you want in, you can just climb the fence. Then you have to face my dogs, but we have had them for years.

Most of the nice communities here have a fence around them, and 24 hour security, and the crime is just like in the states. You are more likely to know someone here that has had a burglary to thier house, than in the states, but that is because people are in concentrated areas.

General Safety!! We have walked the streets in Tijuana many times ar 2 and 3 in the morning. Very rarely will something happen to you. You car is a different story, so having an alarm is a great idea. And Lock the thing.

1. where would you like to go?

moved to israel

2. what do you plan to take with you?

cloths, computers and cash

3. how do you plan to make a living?

building porn sites

4. is what you do legal?

doing porn sites is not illegal....

5. Will you have enough money to get back if the new country doesn not work out the way you planned?

why wouldn't it work out?

6. do you need a visa

no, gotta be jewish though...

7. can you bring your pets

yes, but I don't have any...

8. can you bring your car.

yes, but tax on that is a fuck load!

9. how do you plan to do banking?

epass and check cashing places....they take a very low precentage unlike in the U.S.

10. what is the cost of living.

depends how you live...but about the same as in the U.S.

11. do you understand that there is NOT a walmart on every corner?

right...there are different stores that sell the same shit..but I didn't go to walmart anyways...

12. if you have children where and how will they be schooled?

school of hard knocks

13. Is there high speed connection?

yes...lots of options

14. What do I need to purchase land?

cash...

For 2 people....

Rent: 600$ for a 5 room apartment

electricity: 150$ per month.

Connection : 50$ cable 1.5 mbps.

Gas for a car: 250$ a month

Water bill: $75

Food for 1 person: $1500

Weed: 1 oz $20

Hash: $20 for a big peace that will last you a week if you smoke about 10 bowls a day

Thanks OP for the input. and great answers.

:)
would love to answer more question...

btw food $1500 is just me because I only eat out...

WOW. you scared the shit out of me with that amount. We dont eat out often. My wife loves to cook, and is a great cook, so we eat at home a lot. But there are a few very nice places here that we go to sometimes. We are sick of fucking tacos here. They are nowhere near as good as tacobell.

PG,
I had this thread bookmarked. Thanks for the post. How about an update since the past 4 months? Any changes to your answers to your initial questions?

yeah update us