The best news I have heard all week.
 

Finally, it happened. My son has come to his senses.

As anyone that has paid any attention knows, I am a firm believer that you should not be in a committed relationship until you are 25, single guys should never date single mothers, and moving in with someone that you are not planning on marrying makes absolutely no sense.

While I have pounded this policy into both of my kids for 15+ years, things do not always go as one might hope. While my daughter has been very good about listening to dad, my son has been receptive to the idea, and talks the talk, but in reality, doesn't practice what I preach . . . until today.

He has been dating (pretty much living) with a single mother for over a year . . . that is like 3 out of 3 errors. Well, I guess last night he finally wised up, and moved out. I am so happy!!

He is already out with another chick (no kids), and has promised me he won't fall into that trap again.

Sometimes it is tough being a dad, and sometimes it is so good. Today is one of those good days.

Nice to hear. But you know kids. they never want to listen.

are you sayin single guys under the age of 25 should not date single mothers or any guy should not date single mothers?

i totally agree about the age thing. my head was not screwed on right just 4 years ago when i was 25. now at 29 i see everything a whole lot different then i did just that short while ago and i love being married to the right woman right now

I'm glad my step dad didn't follow your advice back when I was a kid. Pretty selfish concept if you ask me.

yeah that is bad news, seen many problems with that, they are fine to fuck, but thats it!

No, I think he's just speaking for his own son not dating single mothers.

We're in the sex industry. Everyone else in the world is fair game.

No guy should date a single mother

Selfish? Yeah, probably. But you have to look out for #1. Single mothers are not a good risk. Why would you want to inherit a family?

For the most part, single mothers are looking for a replacement daddy.

Are there exceptions to every rule? Of course. But they are just that . . . exceptions to the rule.

i got your point baddog. i was in a relationship with a married lady before and my life was really in deep trouble. i am glad your son realized that he needs to listen to his parents. sometimes people have to experience trouble or pain.

Dating and banging are not the same thing. At least by my definition.

If you want to have a single mother on the side for a booty call, fine. A relationship? No way.

Baddog, you are the man, will you be my new papa? lol

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-Phil

I like to get them a little earlier, easier to train . . . how are you about mowing the lawn?

My friends call me Forest, Forest Gump.

That's Exactly what it is...a Trap!

Well, I'm glad that you at least acknowledge there are exceptions to your beliefs. I'm 22 and I've been in a committed relationship with my gf for over 3 years now and everything has been great so far, wouldn't have it any other way.

:thumbsup They should be shunned from society as outcasts, sailed to a small island in south america where they can produce cheap slave labour items.

but seriously , what about a widow?

Good luck, you will need it. Stuck with one chick since you were 19 tells me you have no experience and the day will come when you (or her) will wonder what is on the other side, and go off to explore.

Maybe she already has.

Like I said, there are exceptions to every rule, but I am willing to bet that there will come a day that you will remember this thread and think, "he was right."

There are exceptions to every rule. Widows usually fit in there.

I feel the same way about divorcees. They are like used cars. You are just getting someone else's headaches.

Hmm, so single moms should only date single dads?

glad to hear he finally wised up!

I don't try to suggest to women what they should do, other than wait until they are 25 to commit. Once they become a mom, single or otherwise, they are on their own.

So, if you want to reword that to, should single dads date single moms? Well, if you are looking for a mom for your kid and you want to do that act all over again, they are probably the easiest to acquire.

Kids learn from there mistakes :) i know

Correct me if i am wrong but aint you a divorcee?

You're the only person I know who is more jaded about the opposite sex, than me, lol.

Do you see me trying to woo anyone into a relationship?

that works for some people, but some people can do just find at a young age.

one more time, there are exceptions to every rule . . . BTW, your press release is up.

Not jaded, just learn from my mistakes, and I have made them all.

Like I tell my kids, "learn from your mistakes, and whenever possible, learn from the mistakes of others."

Besides, it is the same thing I tell my daughter, so it isn't an opposite sex kind of thing.

im just asking a question there partner. Maybe i am just taking your postings the wrong way. Me i justed married a single mother of a 10 year old girl in january. So i am just takin interest in this thread. Most of the time when i read your postings i agree with you.This one thread i dont. no biggie no harm done.....

good luck :thumbsup

What happened to the philosophy that parents should set a good example for their kids? Baddog, you are a dog. You have told us that you got a young woman pregnant and she will soon have a child. You said you weren't a good husband. You cat around and pat yourself on the ass for being such a *stud.* You also came here and talked about an older woman whom you planned to fuck. but you gave her no respect. You put her down for her age.

Now you are giving out advice to your son and daughter. My grandfather gave out advice just like you, and his reply when confronted was always: "You should be seen but not heard." Well, doggy, your kids have their lives to live, and since they can't use you as their sterling example, LEAVE THEM THE FUCK ALONE AND LET THEM MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.

And if I were your son, and I read your comments on porn boards, I would disown you as a father, you dumb immature fuck. :(

see that is where you're completely wrong, at least in the sense of relationships.

my girlfriend and i both have heard it from other people the same line, "You're too young to be so serious!". we understand that many people our age aren't able to sustain a healthy relationship, we understand that a lot of people regretted later in life for not having been more "wild" in their youthful years. here is the point, regardless of what OTHER people think WE should do, we think we should do what we personally WANT to do. why ruin something that we both agree is so great, for the possibility that it might end up bad in the future? there is no reason to do this. sure, in response you might answer that question with something like, "to avoid the inevitable hurt the future will bring, and you will be better off doing so..." - but that is so cowardly on so many levels, ruining something that is good because it might end up bad. that isn't living life.

the only thing a person, a couple, can do in life is do what they think will make them happy. and staying with each other is what has in the past, and what we hope in the future, will make us happy.

You're rambling . . . try using paragraphs, it will make it easier to read. But let's get down to facts.

1. How old are you?
2. How old is she?
3. How long have you been together?

oh yeah, I remember . . you are the 22 year old in a 3 year relationship . . . sorry, but you don't know shit. Talk to me in 10 years.

see, this is your flaw... you slump everything together in a category and make assumptions based on a few little, and often times insignificant details.

I'll answer 'em for you even though it is completely irrelevant given the direction of this conversation.

1. I'm 22.
2. She's 19.
3. A bit over 3 years - and we've been with each other for nearly every day of it.

We've had our problems, worked them out great, and we've compromised effectively. We love each other, we've never cheated on each other, and we both have plans for the future that include each other.

Your response is so predictable that I'm going to respond to it right now to save some time.

I DON'T CARE WHAT STATISTICS SAY!! I don't give 2 shits n' a piss about what you, and what the majority of everyone else has experienced in their life. You might attribute this to the fact that "love is blind", yadda yadda...

The BOTTOM LINE is that I'm not going to be a coward and do something someone else says I should do, and either dump her or have an "open" relationship because someone says we might REGRET being so serious earlier on in our lives. We're both the type of people that are strongly against that type of shit (open relationships), and we're 100% happy with what we have.

You don't attempt to fix something that isn't broken.

A part of living life to its fullest is making decisions you personally feel strong about, regardless of how strong the opposition is or what the critics might say. The point at which you ignore your instincts and listen to what other people have to say regarding these types of situations, is the point at which you've stopped living life to its fullest, and the regret in the future will be far worse than if you had only listened to yourself and followed your instincts.

I'm going to agree on some counts.

First, I stay clear of single mothers. I've dated them casually but will never get serious. It's just too much to deal with to be honest.

As for the 25 part, I couldn't agree more. I was in the "I know who I want to be with at 21" stage. A lot changes between then and 25.

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Makes fatherhood more sensible for You. :thumbsup

Starting a relationship at 16 and 19 is irrelevant? Then I am sure you will feel the same way about this. Where do you live?

the best way to get people 14-25 to do something is to tell them not to ;)

btw, i know several couples who have been together since before they were 18, and are together over 30 years later. my fiance's parents were together from high school till the death of father over 50 years later. my uncle married a 17 year old girl, and i just realized that she is now is 56 and they're still married, and both work at the same university. my parents got married at 27, and they had a horrible marriage - which i wish had lasted less time than it did.

what works for some doesn't work for others *shrug*

Ohio.

Yes, it is irrelevant. People start relationships at 25 - 35 - 45 - 55 - 66 - and they fail too. Sure, the percentage at which they survive might increase as the older you get, but it is no reason to not involve yourself in a relationship. You should know, you can't control what you feel when you meet someone. But I personally know of several relatives who were "highschool sweethearts" who are still happily married.

If what my girlfriend and I have doesn't work out in the future, I will have no regrets, because I followed my instincts and learned on my own - instead of having lived my life through someone else's ear with a hear no evil speak no evil see no evil mentality.

Yeah . . . have a good time. Like I have said multiple times in this thread, there are exceptions to every rule. You, however, are much too young to know if you are one of them or not.

Just so you know, the odds are against you. Good luck, as you will need it.

You will regret it when you realize you wasted your youth away when you should be out having fun.

As far as your relatives doing it, I am betting you are referring to old people and the times were different back then. They did not live together before getting married, and divorce just wasn't something that was done.

Like I said, good luck. . .

Nice to hear, but all i have to say is that i love fucking the shit outta single moms... nothing else..

Who are you to say that I'm not having fun? I'm having loads of fun being with her. I'm not wasting my youth away youth. Before I was with her I was out with the best of them "living the life" hooking up with girl after girl. What I have now is honestly a lot better than what I did then.

I'm referring to aunts and uncles who are in their mid 40's. Regardless of whether or not "Divorce" wasn't something that was done often, they're happy now anyways. Do you even bother looking at the fact that 50% of people stay married? Sure, not all of them are happy - but most are happy enough to stay married.

You're a 50 year old motorcycle driving pornsite owner. I wouldn't expect you to understand concepts which exceed the bounderies of your dick-in-hand mentality. To me, you're wasting away your youth when you're aimlessly going from person to person only on a connection based on sexuality.

For me and my girlfriend to be truly happy and having fun, there just has to be something more to a relationship than a one night stand and an orgasm. :winkwink:

...and something else I wanted to add.

It's natural for parents to look after their children. But I think a part of effective parenting is allowing your children to learn from their own mistakes, particularly in the realm of relationships. The wisdom gained from learning on your own is much more valuable than wisdom that you're spoonfed by someone else.

I'm not a parent, but I have at least enough sense to understand this basic idea.

now I am getting a pretty much good view of how I would be once my son becomes a teenager. you will realize your parents were right the time your kids start telling you you're wrong.

you see no matter how much you remind your kids.. they are the ones making the decision. and sometimes, experience is still the best teacher. good luck.

You are an inexperienced, thinks he knows it all punk kid. Don't even begin to tell me you have any idea at all what raising successfull children is about. You do not know shit.

Like I said, talk to me in 10 years, until then, STFU.