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Elli 08-01-2005 03:34 PM

2257 Injunction
 
Didn't the brief 2257 injunction end today, August 1st? Any news on this? Info?

lagwagon 08-01-2005 03:35 PM

I would like to know as well.

RuthB 08-01-2005 03:35 PM

I thought it was supposed to be the 5th... ? I honestly don't remember

Sly 08-01-2005 03:35 PM

No, I believe it ends in September, but the hearings are today or tomorrow.

Penthouse Tony 08-01-2005 03:36 PM

Hi Elli. I'm in Gimli so news takes time to get here. :) Haven't heard anything yet.

See you soon in Florida babe.

newbreed 08-01-2005 03:37 PM

August 8th is the next court date, then it's 30 days after any decision is made.

$pikes 08-01-2005 03:37 PM

The last news release was that the hearing is today.

pornguy 08-01-2005 03:38 PM

I thought that it was the 1st as well.

newbreed 08-01-2005 03:40 PM

An injunction hearing is scheduled for August 8 and August 9, and the deal applies only to those who are members of the FSC by 2 p.m. Pacific time on June 25.

From...

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/news_events_2.htm

Elli 08-01-2005 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
An injunction hearing is scheduled for August 8 and August 9, and the deal applies only to those who are members of the FSC by 2 p.m. Pacific time on June 25.

From...

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/news_events_2.htm

Thank you! I'm not sure why I had the 1st written down...

Elli 08-01-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF
Hi Elli. I'm in Gimli so news takes time to get here. :) Haven't heard anything yet.

See you soon in Florida babe.

Sagiiii! I am getting in at midnight on Thursday so I'll see you Friday morning! Are you going straight from Gimli to Florida? How is Manitoba treatin you?

newbreed 08-01-2005 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Thank you! I'm not sure why I had the 1st written down...

Well, the 1st is the first day of the 8 day countdown, so I could totally see why. :winkwink:

Elli 08-01-2005 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Well, the 1st is the first day of the 8 day countdown, so I could totally see why. :winkwink:

That must be it! Whew! I knew there was a reason! ;)

Sly 08-01-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Well, the 1st is the first day of the 8 day countdown, so I could totally see why. :winkwink:

Dave was saying something about court hearings today and tomorrow in Denver. I wonder what he meant.

newbreed 08-01-2005 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Dave was saying something about court hearings today and tomorrow in Denver. I wonder what he meant.


Probably a parking ticket. :upsidedow

2257 Q 08-01-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Thank you! I'm not sure why I had the 1st written down...

The reason you had the 1st written down was because the hearings originally scheduled for the 8th/9th were rescheduled for today/tomorrow.

BUT - late Friday, the DOJ and FSC agreed on some facts/admissions/stipulations, and that agreement eliminated the need for today's sessions, apparently.

Oral arguments are scheduled to begin tomorrow morning at 9am (believe that is 9am mountain time, not sure)

- Q.

$pikes 08-01-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257 Q
The reason you had the 1st written down was because the hearings originally scheduled for the 8th/9th were rescheduled for today/tomorrow.

BUT - late Friday, the DOJ and FSC agreed on some facts/admissions/stipulations, and that agreement eliminated the need for today's sessions, apparently.

Oral arguments are scheduled to begin tomorrow morning at 9am (believe that is 9am mountain time, not sure)

- Q.


Thanks! You rock :thumbsup

Elli 08-01-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257 Q
The reason you had the 1st written down was because the hearings originally scheduled for the 8th/9th were rescheduled for today/tomorrow.

BUT - late Friday, the DOJ and FSC agreed on some facts/admissions/stipulations, and that agreement eliminated the need for today's sessions, apparently.

Oral arguments are scheduled to begin tomorrow morning at 9am (believe that is 9am mountain time, not sure)

- Q.

Thanks Q. :) I love Q's.

newbreed 08-01-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257 Q
The reason you had the 1st written down was because the hearings originally scheduled for the 8th/9th were rescheduled for today/tomorrow.

BUT - late Friday, the DOJ and FSC agreed on some facts/admissions/stipulations, and that agreement eliminated the need for today's sessions, apparently.

Oral arguments are scheduled to begin tomorrow morning at 9am (believe that is 9am mountain time, not sure)

- Q.

Why doesn't the FSC send this stuff out in a newsletter for Members?

Or put it in as a newsflash on the site?

2257 Q 08-01-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Why doesn't the FSC send this stuff out in a newsletter for Members?

Or put in as a newsflash on the site?

Yeah - that would be nice, wouldn't it?

I've just been calling their legislative affairs office every time I pick up a bit of rumor/info.... they always very politely give me the answer I'm looking for, after which they tell me "the latest info is on our website" to which I reply "Really? The info you just confirmed to me is decidely NOT on your website...."

I guess it goes to show that just because an organization's heart is in the right place, it doesn't necessarily mean their data is in the right place as well.... :winkwink:

- Q.

tristan_D 08-02-2005 01:23 AM

This was posted on another board and i thought I might share it.

Friends,

As many of you know, today was to be the first day of the 2257 Injunction Hearings in Denver.

The plan was for some testimony and other detail work today, with oral arguments before the judge on Tuesday the 2nd.

Late Friday afternoon -- VERY late -- the DOJ and the lawyers for FSC agreed to a series of "Facts, Admissions and Stipulations".

This is basicaly a legally binding document presented to the court with both sides agreeing to certain things. It is done to save time in front of the judge and get little stuff out of the way so the main battle can begin.

With that filed late Friday there was no need for today's court session. Oral arguments will start at 9:00am on Tuesday in the Federal Court in Denver.

The FSC lawyers are here and ready and working as I type.

I'll be there and I'll post from the local Kinko's (two blocks from the Court) as soon as they take a break in the morning.

Plese remember that this IS NOT the trial to decide if 2257 is legal overall by itself or if the new regs are legal.

This is the hearing to determine if the law should be put on hold until such time as there is a full trial -- which could be a year down the road.

Also, it is VERY IMPORTANT to note that if the judge extends the current order and places an injunction (hold) on the law it will only affect the named plaintiff's.

Mike Gross, one of the FSC lawyers, has made a motion to extend the order to cover all those within the FSC by the end of business on 08/02/05. If the judge rules in our favor he'll likely grant this motion too.

If you didn't get your ass in gear and join FSC before the last deadline in June, you should jump over and do so today so that you are covered until the final trial and appeals in the future.

Jimmy


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