Who makes the best "retail" PC?
 

I have owned a few Sony VAIO's and they were amazing but I can't help but notice that Sony's cutting edge technology is lacking behind.

I love the new Alienware ALX but they are pricey but I guess you get what you pay for when you want the best.

http://www.alienware.com/alx_pages/main_alx.aspx

Can anybody recommend some good "pre-built" PC's?

Thanks

depends what do you want to do ?

Isn't Alienware way over priced for what you get? Get a Dell :thumbsup

It's all about the Dell PCs or Toshiba !!

My Dell Inspiron 5150 fell apart and it was never mobile.. It just sat on the desk. I won't say that I wont ever buy a Dell again but its not gonna happen anytime soon.

Anything Toshiba is good.. I love alienware but they cant solve the overheating problems.

He a said a good pc, not a dell lol
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Yeah Danny just bought the best Alienware laptop and he burns his hands on the damn thing. Close the door in his bedroom and it heats the room up. Crazy.

But the ALX systems are liquid cooled so I would imagine that would solve the heat issues.

Toshiba actualy has some pretty high end systems out right now.
I got this lappy a few months ago

amd 64
120gig hd
128mb nvidia
1gig ram
hd flat panel wide screen



real nice..

Get a dell.

Dell pcs!

I checked the Toshiba website and all I see are notebooks and Tablet PC.

why not get a notebook.. I have 3 , i am addicted.

We've used HP's in our offices for years and they have been very reliable. On the other hand, I bought a Dell desktop for a contractor recently and it was a complete POS, unlike their servers.

or build your own..
$726
MSI RS480M2-IL Athlon64 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 (VPCIXD4ALFSR) MBoard 1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ DUAL CORE s939 1
Cooling Fan CPU Athlon 64 1
onboard Video * original config only 1
Integrated Digital Audio 1
Black Mid-Tower Case w/Front USB 1
GigaLAN controller 1

I've been there and done that and I can't be bothered with building one.

It comes assembled, all you need to do is pop in some memory and hook your monitor up and its ready to go. 10-20 mins tops.

Dell pc's are good but Alienware IS BETTER

So lets recap.. Dell sux balls, toshiba only makes notebooks and building my own is not a solution since this thread was specificaly started searching for the best "retial PC" on the market today.

You guys are not much help.. lol

I think Ailenware is the best even thou its way over priced. Sony VAIO seems to be decent value but I hate the fact that I am buying a new PC with older parts.

These are a bit overpriced too (though less than Alienware) but the quality is awesome.

http://www.falcon-nw.com/

I dont think you get it.

Retial companies spend BIG $$$ on reserch and development to make sure all hardware works well together. They also include "recovery cd's" so that when you want to format the PC it takes 20mins to get it back the way it was the day you bought it. Also the towers are always 10x better looking on retial setups.

There aren't any.. They are all overpriced.. befriend a nerd at some computer club and get him to pay YOU to build YOUR pc.. tell him if he mows your lawn you will let him "help" you build a kickass pc , but when all the shit gets there , just let him do all the work and watch a movie or something.

I have a couple friends ( not nerds ) who are fanatics about building pc's. I would just pop the shit together , but they coat , wire and cool these sytems like no others, and are always glad to do it, i just give them a whack of parts and come back the next day to some cool freon cooled shit that rocks.

Those look interesting but I don't like that fact that their systems are AMD only. I always prefer Intel over AMD.

You have some good points, but of all the "retail" pc's i have troubleshot. The recovery cd never works :) ( and you can make those yourself anyways )and the towers dont impress me much ( alienware has some slick shit , but honestly i dont look at the pc much.. )

Hardware conflict is the MOST important factor you mentioned.. some shit just doesn;t like other shit.. most retail companies try very hard to debug that shit before they put them out , but invariably you end up adding something into the mix that throws off something else anyways..

Aleinware's overpriced.

Dell's are not good. The way their mobo's are have always been a problem in regards to if something big goes wrong, you have a lot to replace. It's been a problem with them for a long time.

That being said, if you just need a PC period, you can get by on it. If you want a high powered PC for video editing, and a lot of the bells and whistles because you do a lot of work like that, you need a custom built on.

Retail can fit an average user, but they are not going to be good for a heavy user for someone who needs to do a lot of different things (games, video editing, etc). You either have to pay through the nose for upgrades, or setting it up specifically for all that.

The main point is you can buy the best components, and do a custom built, probably cheaper than going into a retail outlet, trying to get the same, and paying more for it.

:Oh crap

Toshiba is definitely the best for laptops but Dell is running at the top for pc's right now

Well I guess I could build a PC from scratch if there is no solid retail PC's avilible.

Anybody know where I can buy a good looking tower? :thumbsup

Microbytes has some cool shit

Dell they take care of u all the time

Can't go wrong with Dell..high quality stuff

Take a better look at their site, they have Pentium systems too. :thumbsup

You can get nice deals from DELL.

i love dell

We only buy Toshiba, Dells and Sonys

Damn considering how many PC's are sold in the world everyday there is not much to choose from is there. No wonder Dell is so damn huge.

Buy an HP and be done with it.

The HP I'm typing this on is 3 years old, runs W2K3 flawlessly, and has never given me a problem (even though I chain smoke near the open cage).

i've had good success with Dells, HP's and compaq's

yeah, i've heard that Dell computer's makes the best retails.