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DaddyzHome 07-31-2005 02:00 PM

2257 compliance software. What's out there?
 
I am looking at getting a 2257 software to replace my old spreadsheet format :( , but I want to see what's out there to choose from. I am looking for something fairly inexpensive, but something that works. I talked to someone recently who told me to stay away from 2257madeeasy.com because he can't get it to work right and they have no support whatsoever.

What else is there?

Dalai lama 07-31-2005 02:01 PM

2257ware.com works fine.

newbreed 07-31-2005 02:04 PM

If you have any questions about 2257MAVIS from www.2257ware.com , please let me know.

You can ask here or hit me up on ICQ - 346940591 or e-mail me admin|@|2257ware|.|com




Thank you DL for mentioning us!

DaddyzHome 07-31-2005 07:11 PM

Is that it?

Rebecca Love 07-31-2005 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyzHome
Is that it?

I was wondering to. I am looking for software now......... :helpme

newbreed 07-31-2005 07:30 PM

Any questions either of you have, please feel free to hit me up. :)

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca Love
I was wondering to. I am looking for software now......... :helpme


YARGH! The one I use be good. I got it custom done but the guy is selling it too.

It has a content scanner, and the record input is very easy. Also allows users to be added with permissions so they can't edit anything just see it.

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 07:35 PM

YARGH! I forgot it be completely searchable by anything. Model name, set name url's etc. even a portion of any of those.

MrChips 07-31-2005 07:35 PM

God bless America.

newbreed 07-31-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate
It has a content scanner, and the record input is very easy. Also allows users to be added with permissions so they can't edit anything just see it.

Good to see other people offering those options also :thumbsup

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Good to see other people offering those options also :thumbsup


YARGH! I don't think of those as options.. really necessities. The software is fairly priced as well :)

MandyBlake 07-31-2005 07:45 PM

2257ware.com its the place to be!

RevSand 07-31-2005 08:07 PM

2257ware.com is the bomb diggity... Nice price and all the goodies you need..

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 08:10 PM

YARGH! I got the link from me guy. It's free to download, and use. It's not a trial it's the full version. Enjoy.

http://www.hypercompliance.com/

newbreed 07-31-2005 08:15 PM

Chio has that system been reviewed by an industry attorney? Just curious because the server-client model has been discussed in detail as a general no-no for 2257 records keeping.

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Chio has that system been reviewed by an industry attorney? Just curious because the server-client model has been discussed in detail as a general no-no for 2257 records keeping.


YARGH! It needs to be stored locally right? A cheap computer with linux can be local.

Dirty Dane 07-31-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Chio has that system been reviewed by an industry attorney? Just curious because the server-client model has been discussed in detail as a general no-no for 2257 records keeping.

You can keep it digital on your home PC... install MySQL and so on. Can't see why that would cause problems.

Dirty Dane 07-31-2005 08:24 PM

There are also many database programs, you can use for more than just 2257. Like keeping lists of your sponsors and contact lists, payments and accounting, ref-codes, FHGs, templates and I can go on forever. Spend a little time on it and it saves you lots of time later. Really worth it :thumbsup

newbreed 07-31-2005 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
You can keep it digital on your home PC... install MySQL and so on. Can't see why that would cause problems.

It shouldn't, considering of course the user knows how to install php and mysql on a home or office computer, just checking. :)

I'm not trying to slam it, I just think people should be informed fully as to what is required or not to run any of the software options out there. It's equally important that users know whether or not a solution has been reviewed and approved for use by an attorney with knowledge of the law.

Dirty Dane 07-31-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
I'm not trying to slam it, I just think people should be informed fully as to what is required or not to run any of the software options out there. It's equally important that users know whether or not a solution has been reviewed and approved for use by an attorney with knowledge of the law.

Very true. Lawyers or not, the most important thing is not the tool, but the informations. So if you dont know the law, or don't take the time to know it (which you should in this biz), you need something that is approved...and tested by the inspectors would make it even better(?)

BaghdadBob 07-31-2005 09:18 PM

2257 software
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate
YARGH! I got the link from me guy. It's free to download, and use. It's not a trial it's the full version. Enjoy.

http://www.hypercompliance.com/

Is it actually free or a 'free trial'?

Chio The Pirate 07-31-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaghdadBob
Is it actually free or a 'free trial'?

YARGH! It's totally free. I think he was chargin' initially but not anymore.

BaghdadBob 08-01-2005 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate
YARGH! It's totally free. I think he was chargin' initially but not anymore.

Nice! I installed it and it works like a charm! I can't believe this is free. Let me know if you have any more links to free adult software.

Thanks

newbreed 08-01-2005 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BaghdadBob
Nice! I installed it and it works like a charm! I can't believe this is free.

It's free yes, but in it's current state it is not compliant as a solution, so beware if you are counting on it to keep you legal. Buyers (even of free software) beware, please everyone do your research on these products to make sure you are compliant. No one is going to keep you out of trouble except for yourself. :2 cents:

BaghdadBob 08-01-2005 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
It's free yes, but in it's current state it is not compliant as a solution, so beware if you are counting on it to keep you legal. Buyers (even of free software) beware, please everyone do your research on these products to make sure you are compliant. No one is going to keep you out of trouble except for yourself. :2 cents:

Hmm, how come it's not compliant? I have a local Apache server with MySql anyway and I installed it perfectly... Now, if someone were to install it on a remote server, then it would be a different case, but I think most webmasters know how to install apache and mysql on a local machine. Please elaborate

newbreed 08-01-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BaghdadBob
Hmm, how come it's not compliant? I have a local Apache server with MySql anyway and I installed it perfectly... Now, if someone were to install it on a remote server, then it would be a different case, but I think most webmasters know how to install apache and mysql on a local machine. Please elaborate

For starters, there is no area to include information on your local "copy" of the depiction. I could list some other things, but I don't want to turn this thread into a "don't use the other solution because..." type of thread. I am only pointing out to people that are looking for a solution that they should do some homework and research on the different products and have an attorney review each one they select for compliance.

If the owner of HC wants to contact me I would be happy to discuss the other elements that are hindering that application from being compliant.

HorseShit 08-01-2005 11:07 AM

bump for newbreed

Antonio 08-01-2005 12:21 PM

http://www.my2257records.com/

^^^^ take a look at this one

Sarah_Jayne 08-01-2005 12:54 PM

2257ware.com is the one for me once I get my full copy :)

BaghdadBob 08-01-2005 01:08 PM

well i guess i'm content with using even an Excel database :) I'm 'thrifty', so to speak. I may continue using the one I downloaded yesterday, no harm done.. if I could have it my way I would use a simple html file or something haha

how much do the softwares cost by the way? I saw a couple of them listed and I couldn't find a price for the one you suggested newbreed

thanks

newbreed 08-01-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaghdadBob
well i guess i'm content with using even an Excel database :) I'm 'thrifty', so to speak. I may continue using the one I downloaded yesterday, no harm done.. if I could have it my way I would use a simple html file or something haha

how much do the softwares cost by the way? I saw a couple of them listed and I couldn't find a price for the one you suggested newbreed

thanks

50 bucks for the basic version and 350 bucks for the software and the SCAT module. There is info on both on the site. :)

BaghdadBob 08-01-2005 02:03 PM

eeeeeeks Microsoft Notepad will work just fine for now, thanks LOL

Chio The Pirate 08-01-2005 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
For starters, there is no area to include information on your local "copy" of the depiction. I could list some other things, but I don't want to turn this thread into a "don't use the other solution because..." type of thread. I am only pointing out to people that are looking for a solution that they should do some homework and research on the different products and have an attorney review each one they select for compliance.

If the owner of HC wants to contact me I would be happy to discuss the other elements that are hindering that application from being compliant.


YARGH! Custom fields can be added by me. This way if the regs change I can add or take away fields as needed.

It does currently (in my version anyway) have a production date field, as well as a field for model ID which is what the "real" documents are Identified by locally in my office file cabinet.

If this isn't in the downloadable version I will let the Guy know. It's possible one of the older files were mistakenly uploaded prior to inclusion of these fields. Again though custom fields can be added with a couple of clicks anyway so the end user can add whatever they want.

AHOY! Me 2257er's

2257-Ben 08-01-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyzHome
I am looking at getting a 2257 software to replace my old spreadsheet format :( , but I want to see what's out there to choose from. I am looking for something fairly inexpensive, but something that works. I talked to someone recently who told me to stay away from 2257madeeasy.com because he can't get it to work right and they have no support whatsoever.

What else is there?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=MAVIS

Newbreed and I have spent the past 2 months (and several thousands of dollars) creating 2257 MAVIS. The most important aspect of which is the absolute compliance to the 2257 regulations, right out of the box. No 'custom' fields need to be added in order to make it compliant.

We have also had the software reviewed by a prominent adult industry attorney who is very familiar with 18 USC 2257 as well as 28 CFR Part 75 and he has provided documentation to us stating that 2257 MAVIS is not only fully compliant with the law, it's also the one he's going to be recommending to his clients. Period.

So you have a choice, and it's up to you to make it. You can use a 'solution' that is 'web server' based, not particularly user friendly, doesn't have advanced functionality that allows you to get your 2257 records in order quickly and relatively painlessly, or you can fall on someone elses sword when the inspectors come and find they cannot effectively locate the records they came to see.

The question becomes what software would you bet 10 years of your life on?

Chio The Pirate 08-01-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben
Newbreed and I have spent the past 2 months (and several thousands of dollars) creating 2257 MAVIS. The most important aspect of which is the absolute compliance to the 2257 regulations, right out of the box. No 'custom' fields need to be added in order to make it compliant.

YARGH! I am guessing you didn't get what I wrote about the custom fields function. It's for flexibility in case the regs change, with a couple of clicks you can add a field later.

My copy of the software is 100% compliant "Out of the box" with current regs without any changes.

I have contacted the coder to suggest that an older version may have made it into the download. Newbreed said that fields were missing, I am sure it will be rectified. My copy was not missing these fields so I really don't know if they are in fact missing.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben
We have also had the software reviewed by a prominent adult industry attorney who is very familiar with 18 USC 2257 as well as 28 CFR Part 75 and he has provided documentation to us stating that 2257 MAVIS is not only fully compliant with the law, it's also the one he's going to be recommending to his clients. Period.

So you have a choice, and it's up to you to make it. You can use a 'solution' that is 'web server' based, not particularly user friendly, doesn't have advanced functionality that allows you to get your 2257 records in order quickly and relatively painlessly, or you can fall on someone elses sword when the inspectors come and find they cannot effectively locate the records they came to see.

I found the software to work very well and has the same exact functionality as yours. I can scan content. I can add users with lesser permissions if they need to view the records. Every or any detail of a record can be searched.

As for being able to produce the physical docs, you give me a url (or partial), or model name, I'll punch it in, and every model on that url(s) will show. I then walk over to my file cabinet and get the records.

This isn't rocket science.

I have nothing to gain by telling people about this. It's free. I use it. I was suggesting alternatives like the original post requested.

I have no doubt your software is good, it may even be easier to use, but free is free. What you may give up slightly in ease of setup I think most would find is worth it given the low price of admission.

Pirate mode re-enabled
YARGH!

Hunter_ST 08-01-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chio The Pirate

This isn't rocket science.

I'm sure that all the solutions work quite well, but as Chio said, this isn't rocket science.

Sounds like some scare-mongering going on.

MIND-TRICK 08-02-2005 11:27 AM

2257ware.com
- No download or Buy Here link.
- Support thead has ZERO talk, or even views. (ok, there's 50)
- This price includes one licensed copy of the software for use on one computer and will expire as of Midnight August 8, 2005.
- No screen shots


my2257records.com
- Screen shots work, always a plus
- Support forums locked down

2257MadeEasy.com
- No support
- support forums MIA
- can only add so much data

THERE HAS GOT to be a REAL program out there.
What is working and reliable?

newbreed 08-02-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIND-TRICK
2257ware.com
- No download or Buy Here link.
- Support thead has ZERO talk, or even views. (ok, there's 50)
- This price includes one licensed copy of the software for use on one computer and will expire as of Midnight August 8, 2005.
- No screen shots

- I handle all the transactions personally. I have found when people talk to us directly and we have a chance to get an idea of where they are at as far as getting records in order, they have a very pleasent one on one experience buying and using the product. I prefer to give buying instructions to people who inquire through the site as I like to know who I am dealing with and what level of confidence they have when just starting out with the product. There is nothing wore in a buying process than shelling money out and finding out later the a product is not going to fit your needs, then going through a refund process (we haven't had to go there yet, and the example is exactly why). That said, there are pruchase instructions on the site.

- Support board has no talk on it because there is really very little support needed when using the product. I know it's hard to imagine, but it works that well out of the box. Additionaly, we had another support board setup when MAVIS was in beta, but it was not integrated into the site. This new one is and looks and works better. A lot of time went into designing MAVIS ans SCAT, and we got the majoirty of the bugs worked out before we launched it to the public. That said, what little support issues do arise are handled on the phone, on ICQ or AIM, or through e-mail

- I don't know where you got that from, registered copies of the software do not expire, and have not since the beta releases a couple of months ago. The beta releases were set to expire June 23rd, 2005. Any unregistered versions of the software would expire after a few days of installation.

- We had screenshots all over the site and here at GFY. Those screenshots were replaced (mostly) with newer flash videos that were much more informative.

:thumbsup

MIND-TRICK 08-02-2005 11:57 AM

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- I handle all the transactions personally.
Still awaiting a reply via email.

Quote:

- We had screenshots all over the site and here at GFY. Those screenshots were replaced (mostly) with newer flash videos that were much more informative.
Screen shots on your site, even when logged in produces the following:

"You are not authorized to view this resource. "


Quote:

- I don't know where you got that from, registered copies of the software do not expire, and have not since the beta releases a couple of months ago. The beta releases were set to expire June 23rd, 2005. Any unregistered versions of the software would expire after a few days of installation.
This came right off your site:
Quote:

How much does MAVIS cost?
Normally priced at $99.95, MAVIS is currently being offered at an introductory price of $50.00 USD, of which $20.00 of each sale is donated to the Free Speech Coalition specifically earmarked for 2257 litigation. This price includes one licensed copy of the software for use on one computer and will expire as of Midnight August 8, 2005.

To purchase MAVIS please send an e-mail to [email protected] for details.

* This does not include the server spidering service.

The purpose of my reply to this thread is to get public feedback on what is being used.

NaughtyAlysha 08-02-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIND-TRICK
This price includes one licensed copy of the software for use on one computer and will expire as of Midnight August 8, 2005.

I think he means the price expires at August 8, 2005 at midnight, not the program.

newbreed 08-02-2005 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAlysha
I think he means the price expires at August 8, 2005 at midnight, not the program.


Gotcha, that makes a lot more sense, thanks Alysha. :thumbsup

fetishpix 08-14-2005 09:59 PM

my2257.com - Reviewed by Attorney's involved in the Free Speech Collation Law Suit and used by many MAJOR companies. Windows based - easy to install and very fast data input.

We have over 500,000 images and 2,700 models in the system right now

seattle 08-14-2005 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyzHome
I am looking at getting a 2257 software to replace my old spreadsheet format :( , but I want to see what's out there to choose from. I am looking for something fairly inexpensive, but something that works. I talked to someone recently who told me to stay away from 2257madeeasy.com because he can't get it to work right and they have no support whatsoever.

What else is there?

MAVIS costs $50 for the base version. The SCAT module is $350. Respectively, after August 8th, 2005 the prices will be $99 for MAVIS and $599 for the SCAT module.

scottmce 08-15-2005 11:34 AM

Check out My2257Engine.com.

See sig.

Alexey Oblomov 08-15-2005 11:40 AM

Good conditions for America


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