Is 'Wiccan' a code word for fat, dejected female?
 

or is it "goth" ?

I've seen some skinny goth chicks.

Something to do with witches/black magic/pagans.

Satanic worshippers

I always thought wiccan was a codeword for ugly lesbian. :1orglaugh

Bingo, or frail mama's boy who got beat on in school.

i thinks its referring to white witches (good witches)

just a fat female in my case. :)

It's supposed to be an actual religion, but seems more like one of those cop-out things people take up. A lot of people I've met that claim to be wiccan are just people who don't have the balls to say 'im athiest, fuck god!'

LOL my sister is a wiccan & shes fat as fuck now lol
she used to be really skinny (like 110 lbs) now i think shes pushing 220 :Oh crap

anyways, it has something to do with beliving in witches, spells, spirits, tarot cards, shit like that. i personally dont get it but hey, to each their own ::shrugs::

I think you have a strong case there..

never trust a skinny witch... my 2 cents

~Ray

So much wrong info out here..jeeez! Well, I guess you were atleast 2/3 right...black magic isn't a part of it at all...

I don't think you know much about it then....

I've seen some fucking smokin hot witches.

It's just like everybody, there's fat, and there's thin.

It's probably true that fat people are more likely to be attracted to alternative religions- that's what our society is like.

lol my post of the day. anyway, it is the whole pagan Earth mother thing that brings out the curvy chicks the most.
:winkwink:

Actually its pretty much the ORIGINAL religion although I dont think they called it that(Wiccan) back then, not really sure. This stuff pre dates Christianity and like most things non christian they villified these practices way back when Christianity was trying to get its start. Thats why if you ask most people on the street what a pagan is and the first words out of their mouth will probably be Satan Worshipper. Although I doubt there are any real true practitioners, mostly wannabes looking for a change, since the great "Christian Propaganda Machine" did a good job of wiping them out. But I suppose why you see mostly women practitioners is because alot if not all of there religion is centered around the Sacred Feminine. This is just my :2 cents: I am no expert but from what I have studied this about covers it.

Goth is so 1998, its way cooler to be gay now in '05. :2 cents:

You're kidding, right? Do a quick straw-poll of any fat people you meet on the street, see how many are 'alternative religion'. The white christians have a serious hammer lock on the whole fat thing, guaranteed.

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Pretty good :2 cents: Thanks :)

I concur, that was a very consice and surprisingly accurate cliff notes lesson.

isn't wiccan earth magic??
and no.. seen a few skinny good looking ones at store here in town that specializes in all sorts of magic
from white to black

got some nice books in there.. about history of myths and fables of gods.. goddesses.. demons.. etc..etc..
was curious so went to check it out when was at friends place. She lives across from it.. so said why not since I was there

one of my friends, torri (from torrissecret.com) used to be hardcore goth. not sure about wiccan tho. every wiccan i know is vegetarian tho, go figure.

Wicca is a contemporary Pagan religion with spiritual roots in Shamanism and the earliest expressions of reverence of nature.

Among Wicca's major motifs are: reverence of the Goddess and the God; reincarnation; magick; ritual observance of the Full Moon; astronomical and agricultural phenomena; spheroid temples, created with personal power, in which rituals occur.

Not all witches are Wiccan, and not all Wiccans are witches, as witchcraft by itself is not a religion, and not all Wiccans practice magick.

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take it from me - there are a lot of wicca in porn - more than you can imagine - I don't want to name anyone but take it from me - A LOT

I have been having a semi-regular booty call with a wiccan woman every month or so for a few years now.

If anything, she is a bit underweight. Incredibly sexual....

completely incorrect
Gerald Brosseau Gardner is the founder of this religion, starting it in the late 1930's and early 1940's, giving Wicca an age of about 65 years.

That's who gave it the NAME....the beliefs have been around as long as people have been.

incorrect.
Wicca is not related historically in any way other than literary inspiration to any pagan religion. It is, in fact, a product of the 1930s and 40s, hugely influenced by the rituals of Freemasonry, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO).

EXACTLY :) Good one Chase !

some people seem to believe that Gardner's coven's rites and doctrines can be traced in a virtually pure form back to the pre-Christian era. But most credible researchers don't buy this. They have found many twentieth-century influences on Gardner: Aleister Crowley; Charles Godfrey Leland, an American who wrote a book called Aradia about his encounters with the Witches of Tuscany.
Even woodcraft, a movement started by the Canadian writer Ernest Thompson Seton.

While it might be that Gardner's coven may have had ancient roots, he felt free to create and adapt new rituals and prayers, much as Neopagans do today.

Good, I'm cool then :thumbsup

Earth-based religions, or, more accurately, spirituality, have/has been around for eons...Wicca is just the modern day title given to a particular sect who follows pagan beliefs.

Personally, I find that a lot of people who say they are Wiccan, do it just because it is easier to give it a label that people are familiar with (although, not often comfortable with, lol). I think a lot of "Wiccan" are more general pagans.

Exactly and what I said early I didnt nail down to Wicca for they guy who said I was completely incorrect, hence the line where I said I dont think they called it Wicca back then. Wicca is definitely an updated version of a very old religion or belief system. Wicca is very tied into the ancient religions observing certain ancient rituals, as well as observing certain ancient Pagan Holidays. Gardner didnt just create the religion (Wicca) up out of the blue, he compounded and modernized an already existing religion, maybe even several religions, pre-christian religion(s).

Yup...I think the Wiccan beliefs are heavily drawn from the Celtic Pagans...Druids, if you will...assuming I remember correctly. It's been a while since I've shoved my nose in those books, lol.

Of course there are modern twists given to those basic ideas..every religion does that. These are modern times and there are always modifications made to adapt to the current "climate"...even catholicism has flirted with the idea of relaxing some of their doctrines....though it won't happen in the current Pope's "reign" lol.

I figure it's more interesting if this wicca stuff is a modern creation. If you think of it as an "old religion" resurrected, then basically your underlying storyline is that cheesy old "back to the roots", the exact same thing that the christians are doing, but with their god replaced by an earth goddess.

But, if it's a modern creation, then it's an effort to make religion conscious, something done intentionally.

Then it becomes not some romanticized and ficticious "first religion", but a type of "final religion".

In general, the pagans are way more fun than the christians, no doubt about that.

I knew this Wican (pronounced bullible moron) who left her daughter and hubby to pursue her healing powers and other magical bullshit.

What a fucking moron she was. How could someone leave their child behind for such horseshit?

Yeah, because I would love to hear how the druids are only 60 years old.

Finally someone with half a clue. Good post (although part is incorrect, at least he gave an effort) :)

the catholic church has "borrowed" so much from paganism.
Sunday worship, symbols and so many other things

Pretty much everything surrounding christmas is of pagan derivation... the first clue might be the christmas tree. How many pine trees are in israel? :winkwink:

Yule logs, mistletoe, christmas trees, hollowe'en (samhain), easter (astara), etc etc... the early christians were pretty flexible in what they'd accept so long as they could get new peeps into the fold. Pity that flexibility all too quickly faltered into dogma and the 'infalliability of the vatican'. :disgust

what i thaught :1orglaugh

How'd this troll thread turn into a real discussion? :D

That's why the dark one hasn't been back.