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How much can I get for this Single Girl site content?
I have never sold any of my content before, but right now I am swamped with exclusive models and need to hire some people to help me utilize all the content I am shooting. Over a year I could make six figures off this content easily, but if the price is right I would rather sell. I've got four other single girl sites I am developing right now...
What can I get for this if I sold it outright? 50-60 still sets (all clothed and nude w/ explicits) 3 girl-girl sets 3 girl-girl videos (oral + toys) 7 solo videos (masturbation, banana, candle, toys + more) + 20 different outfit switch mini-sets (clothed, can be used for tour pics) + 1 intro video ("hi! welcome to the site" etc) + 4 solo sets of the other girl in the girl-girl pics/video Here are some samples of the girl: http://www.timethieves.com/4.jpg http://www.timethieves.com/2.jpg http://www.timethieves.com/3.jpg http://www.timethieves.com/1.jpg (most of the content is shot indoors at vacation houses, but there are 4 outdoor sets also) This girl is exclusive--she has done some random attempts at "real" modeling but never did anything pornographic before and is not looking to do any other work of this nature. She is 18 and 19 in all the pics (shot over the past few months). Buyer would get ID scans for 2257 compliance and copies of all paperwork. Curious what you all think the ballpark range of its price tag should be, and if anyone is seriously interested you can email me at [email protected] Thanks! PCXL |
if the content is similar to the sample images it is not worth too much.
in today's market maybe 2500 to one buyer. or 500 to 10 buyers. i could be wrong of course :2 cents: |
contact me via icq :)
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The content is much higher res and it's that girl doing full nudes, explicits, masturbation, object insertion, toys, and girl-girl. The pics are just to give a general idea of the style of photography and the look of the girl, of course.
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see this www.singlegirldepot.com
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I saw that site, figure if I was getting that or more per girl I'd do nothing but shoot content. It would just be a matter of regular buyers.
Sure, I'd be giving up serious back end $$ on each but just finding and shooting the girls is much easier to me than also having to edit, put together the sites, and also market them at the same time. |
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On a side note, is Single Girl depot really pulling $25k for each girl they're shooting/selling?
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Email sent. Hit me up on icq.
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she looks real cute! we just spent about $15k on content and will be launching something soon but if we had some more spare k's at the moment id definately be emailing you :)
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Shes ok. Not knocking her, but seeing thats all I do I have a pretty good idea the worth. Either Mutt or myself can stear ya in the right direction.
If you had 50 more sets you would be around 14k with that girl in my opinion. 7 videos arnt much either. We deliver about 60 videos in our basic solo site packages. Also, do you still have access to the model? If you only have the items you listed and no futher access to the models its worth far less. Its worthless to a newbie or someone without a network of solo sites in their program already. Shes not cute enough to hold her own, but as part of a network of solo sites that the program owner already has traffic for then yes, its worth a bit more. If I shot only 50 sets for a client (which I wont) I would charge about 6k for what you have listed there. Based on looks, amount of sets and videos. That would be exclusive also. Those are pretty good dollar amounts my friend. Without seeing all the content, and the video, soley based on what you posted and what you listed. If you no longer have access to the model, I would go 4k. 50 sets in a solo site now days isnt going to fly long. Best of luck! :thumbsup |
She looks pretty good, but from those photos it is a bit hard to tell.
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Unless you have access to the models for updates the sites are almost worthless. A single girl site IMHO will need to be updated daily and these girls are nice but not nice enough to run a whole site on solo stuff. But what the fuck do i know !
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Maybe I just develop my sites really well, but I've done six figures plus with that exact same amount of content and models that were slightly older (and had a similar girl next door look). I didn't overdo it on promotion and worked within the amateur genre, updated maybe once every other week and built believable characters that retained within a network of other single girl sites (50%+ retention month to month).
Lately I am seeing on personality sites with girls that look like they are models who were paid--not real girls that inspire members to feel a perceived connection. Also if you update too much people expect alot and it's better to spread it out IMHO. You push the most explicit stuff as the gem of the members section (in this case really explicit masturbation and toy stuff, plus girl-girl videos) and promote with the softcore pics and a solid online journal with story arcs. I'm not going to spill every secret of my business plan here. While I appreciate lowball offers, I get the impression this overkill approach is more along the lines of "build a slick site with a model, throw a lot of promo content out there, see what sticks, and update like crazy to retain." I think it's better to really develop characters and sites where it seems like a real girl is behind it--if you do that right, you can launch a site with 12 sets, promote every other week, and update the site twice a month. If you make it seem like it's really the girl running it, the perceived connection keeps your members rebilling and they cut you a lot of slack if you don't update every day. I think it also endears people to sign up--with this genre especially, you have to sell without overdoing it. |
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So thats the secret? Really? Open a site with 12 sets and update twice a month? That has to be the key to retention. Surfers have to love that. But wait... youre going to make it look like the girl is running it... ohhhh yeah, gzzzz I get it. Post your sites man. Not trying to be a dick at all, but if that is your business plan then I have to see these sites. Sure you can make 6 figures off a site with 50 sets... whoopy! 6 figures! Have you launched any sites yet at all? You remarks lead me to beleive that you have about a weeks experience in the solo girl market, but who knows, I could be way wrong. Again, im not trying to be insulting at all. I have not seen a solo site launch under 20 sets in years. |
i really hope CCBILL isn't still approving sites with 12 or 15 sets and upsell city inside the members area - gotta be chargebacks o' plenty on those sites - it's evident on this board and off the board that the CCBILL scrub is hurting people ....... OR this biz is really just heading into the shitter at a frightening pace.
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i sell exclusive custom content for $150 a set - an exclusive model is worth $200 a set and more - if you can't make your money back within a reasonable amount of time then you shouldn't be in the business in the first place. |
RE: What Shooting_Manic said:
No disrespect meant, but I don't care enough what anyone thinks to really get in-depth about it. If the way you're pushing and promoting stuff works for you, great. Many of the figures listed above as to what the content is worth are about what I can make in 4-8 weeks if I buckle down and do the work to utilize the content on my own. It might just turn out that I can make more with it than someone else could, and that's fine. I respect that different people have different approaches. I don't expect you to lay out your entire business plan or secrets here, and I certainly won't lay out mine. As for six figures not being much to make off one model. Well, if you're a one-man shop with low overhead and you didn't have to invest even a twentieth of that per model it's pretty good to me. Multiply that by 10 to 20 single girl sites, and you've got yourself a pretty sweet empire. Run it for two years and you probably won't ever have to work again. I started this entire thread because I was thinking that selling one girl's content might be a good way to raise the capital I need to handle launching more single girl sites, but if I just bust my ass for a month I can easily make the extra funds. |
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I definitely wouldn't try and undersell $25k. Unless I could get by shooting from my reject bin of hopeful models LOL. Right now I am getting hit up by more cute 18-22 models than I know what to do with though, and I would definitely shoot content full-time if I were pulling down 20k for a 5-day shoot. |
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Mutt,
I'm not living hand to mouth by any means. But I will say that I was far happier two years ago when I was spending around a five figure lifestyle while making six figures. LOL. I've hired bargain-priced help before and I've ended up having to do or fix the majority of the work. I need to hire full or part-time help to handle building sites to my exact spec, and if I don't want them to take what I teach them and go elsewhere then I need to pay them well enough that they stick around. Making money and saving money are two entirely different things LOL. Imagine what you shoot but spending it out of your pocket (no one pays me a downpayment, I'm re-investing profits). To recoup it, I have to launch these sites on my own... I haven't overextended myself, but I will say that I probably shot a model or two beyond what I needed to because I wanted to seize the opportunity, and maybe should've put that money towards staffing instead. PCXL |
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I can also shoot some of my models for myself instead of for my cleint, put up a site and make back 5 times what i paid for it in a couple months. Thats a no brainer, but not my business model and based on your remarks, its not yours either. Its clear you are in a different world then we are and without seeing your sites its hard to know what world you are living in. The numbers you are getting from us are good numbers based on what you offered in your first post. Sure you can put a site up and make more which as Mutt says, it makes your post suspect and your claims of income suspect at best. If you are pulling 6 figures on all your sites as you claim then grabing 10k of so to shoot a couple more sites should not even been an issue. I just font get your post and your efforts here. Im very puzzled and to be this confused about something i know so well makes me scratch my head at the source of the confusion. :helpme |
Correct me if I am wrong here.
You have content on several girls... you think you can run solo sites on them. You figured you could sell one of two of them to fund the launch of the ones you have? Not a bad plan, but just say that. If you have hot girls and tons of content with access to the models, I might even offer you some seed money to get them going. Hit me up whenever and show me what you have. :thumbsup |
As to my original post--I was curious what I could get for that one complete set on the open market.
I saw Single Girl Depot the other day, and my first instinct was that I shoot girls that are much hotter. Yes, for the right offer I'd sell, of course. But not for less than that. I'm sorry for even arguing my viewpoint because this is a stupid pissing contest over dueling philosophies at best. I probably wouldn't sell it for less than 25k and even then I'd probably wish I'd kept it and just done it on my own. But you never know until you put it out there, and if anything I feel re-enforced that my approach to single sites is unique and we're not even competing in the same realm. This shit about what should make up a site is a sidetrack, and honestly I would only sell the stuff I shoot if it were $20-$25k for the exact same shoots I've been doing. I've been shooting way too much and not launching new sites. After exploring this here and chatting to some other folks via ICQ and email, I will either take up someone on their offer to partner on a venture or two, or I will just launch my sites on my own and keep working at this as I have for the past two years. I don't spend my time on GFY because I keep pretty busy with work, and I've done just fine. Apologies if my approach mystifies you, but it works for me. |
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Thank you for reading through my verbosity. :thumbsup |
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Well hit me up and show me what you have. I have some serious resources in this niche and Ive been known to fund a start up now and then. :thumbsup |
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