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maxxxxx

07-10-2005 03:40 AM

CCBill stats - does this look strange to you?

I thought I show you some funny (NOT!) stats from my CCBill sites on two successive days in June. Same traffic, more or less same amount of visitors, same sites promoted. Does this look right to you?

http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats3.gif

Dalai lama

07-10-2005 03:41 AM

Talk to your sponsor about it, looks strange indeed

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 03:43 AM

It's a variety of sponsors, so the problem must rather be on CCBill's side.

Corleone

07-10-2005 03:45 AM

hmm 0:13000
1: 792 the other day

weird

Gottis

07-10-2005 04:20 AM

That happens every now and then, ain't nothing you can do sorry

chadglni

07-10-2005 04:25 AM

Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist. CCBill and the webmasters that use them are awesome at denying the fact. So much so that I would believe it if someone told me the programs still get credited for signups, just not tracked to an affiliate.

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

I'm starting to believe this myself. Yes, it's normal that there are differences from day to day but on CCBill they seem a bit too extreme. I also have the feeling that the number of credit cards that are getting refused is extremely high on some days and less so on others.

bigdog

07-10-2005 07:51 AM

If epoch has some killer stats, they could take over a lot of smaller paysites that just stick to ccbil because of their stats.

Furious_Male

07-10-2005 08:22 AM

I noticed issues around the same time frame. Early last week as well. It comes in spurts. They obviously tighten the screws during those times or have sales post back issues.

Bansheelinks

07-10-2005 08:29 AM

they have projections and quotas to stay under, and algorithms that run everything...........if asked, of course they deny, deny, deny

but give me a break.........if they didn't, they'd lose their merchant account or incur draconian fines. just watch your day close after you incur a CB.......watch your ratios plummet. think its a coincidence? nope.

corvette

07-10-2005 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist.

every 3rd party processor scrubs their transactions, but the process has a specific method and is completely auditable; we can look into the specific decline reason for every decline?if anybody wants to discuss form hits, submissions, scrubbing, etc...feel free to reach me anytime to talk

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biskoppen

07-10-2005 09:23 AM

I thought I was the only one with strange ccbill stats from time to time ;)

Donny

07-10-2005 09:26 AM

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

TheSenator

07-10-2005 09:35 AM

That is why you can't put all your eggs in one basket.

xclusive

07-10-2005 09:40 AM

Ouch that's a big difference

justsexxx

07-10-2005 09:45 AM

Some ppl call it scrubday or whatever. But what sense would it make for ccbill to deny sales, just for the fact of denying them? They don't make money themselve with denials as well.

Donny

07-10-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

Preparation H isn't working! Maybe I should try the suppositories?

http://www.healthdimension.com/HD23p02.jpg

Bansheelinks

07-10-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Some ppl call it scrubday or whatever. But what sense would it make for ccbill to deny sales, just for the fact of denying them? They don't make money themselve with denials as well.

no they don't, but they also avoid merchant account termination, and massive fines by keeping CB ratios under certain ratios. if you get a CB, simply watch your accounts ratios for the next day or so plummet to the depths. what do you think is happening? with more CB's, you fall into a certain parameter on their scrubbing system, even if you are way under the 1% safe margin.

Warren

07-10-2005 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

unless i am mistaken, those do not look like stats directly from our admin...therefore, there may be an issue importing the data into the proprietary software you are using. My first reaction would be to compare them to what is in our admin?see if anything is amiss there

every 3rd party processor scrubs their transactions, but the process has a specific method and is completely auditable; we can look into the specific decline reason for every decline?if anybody wants to discuss form hits, submissions, scrubbing, etc...feel free to reach me anytime to talk

45471840

Hey Corvette, how are you doing man

Rojo-DieselAction

07-10-2005 12:29 PM

Very strange CCBill stats these days for me too... :disgust

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 12:41 PM

Hi Corvette, it's definitively not an import issue.

June 26:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats4.gif

June 27:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats5.gif

SomeCreep

07-10-2005 01:01 PM

The decimal points are strange

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

:question :question

edgeprod

07-10-2005 01:07 PM

With that few sales, how can you tell anything? You need more sales to establish any sort of patterns.

edgeprod

07-10-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

Exactly. Shouldn't they be a few more to the right?

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Exactly. Shouldn't they be a few more to the right?

Do you think I'm making this up, or what? I have better things to do. This is how it looks on my computer, I don't care where you have your decimal points.

V_RocKs

07-10-2005 01:40 PM

I am having a similar problem with Nasty Dollars... and other EPOCH sponsors right now.

corvette

07-10-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warren

Hey Corvette, how are you doing man

excellent, hope all is well with you, are you going to be in Fl this year?

corvette

07-10-2005 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

Hi Corvette, it's definitively not an import issue.

June 26:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats4.gif

June 27:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats5.gif

please email me the specific accounts, ill get it checked out...we can look at the hits to the form, submissions, etc

[email protected]
or
45471840

maxxxxx

07-10-2005 04:20 PM

Thanks, Corvette, email on the way.

Garou

07-10-2005 05:11 PM

please post what the hell has happened

edgeprod

07-10-2005 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

Do you think I'm making this up, or what? I have better things to do. This is how it looks on my computer, I don't care where you have your decimal points.

Apparently, yes, you DO have better things to do. Those things just don't include moving your decimal points to the right.

Of course, if you were a little sharper, you'd probably even understand that.

VeriSexy

07-10-2005 08:28 PM

Wow, looks like they hit the super shave button.........

Garou

07-11-2005 08:48 AM

and...? what was the issue?

Sosa	07-11-2005 09:02 AM

looks like a stats remote screen shot. Sometimes that happens to me with weird totals. I just restart the program and it is ok.

cherrylula

07-11-2005 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

Its that end of the month constipation. Just don't strain too hard and it will all come to pass. :1orglaugh

soukee

07-11-2005 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garou

please post what the hell has happened

I am curious... pls post it :winkwink:

Machete_

07-11-2005 09:31 AM

any news?

seven

07-11-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

If epoch has some killer stats..

yes, then people would be compalining about epoch too :2 cents: epoch never accepts my credit cards that all other processors do.. but how could that be? they don't scrub only ccbill scrubs.. fucking funny!

chadglni

07-11-2005 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven

They all convert worse than a normal merchant account. :2 cents:

DutchTeenCash

07-11-2005 09:39 AM

wondering how many sponsors the 16k are, I mean 10 and 1s fucked up with some downtime or so and this will happen...

soukee

07-11-2005 12:03 PM

so? 8chars

tranza

07-11-2005 12:10 PM

Man, that's VERY odd....

biskoppen

07-14-2005 04:51 AM

What did this all end up with?

Miguel T

07-14-2005 05:01 AM

Wierdoooo!

Theo	07-14-2005 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

They all convert worse than a normal merchant account. :2 cents:

almost all

since ARS moved from ibill to their own merc.account i saw a 30% decrease in my sales :Oh crap

J B	07-14-2005 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

StatsRemote uses your local settings and that's the way it's used in quite a few countries.

Examples:
$29.98 -> $29,98
16,645 -> 16.645

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

looks like a stats remote screen shot. Sometimes that happens to me with weird totals. I just restart the program and it is ok.

The numbers in StatsRemote and in his CCBill stats match.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats3.gif

June 26:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats4.gif

June 27:
http://www.naked-elves.com/sr/stats5.gif

Tom_PM

07-14-2005 07:21 AM

I hate to say this almost, but you know what? Some days suck, and other days kick ass.. and when they are one day after the other, you can have stats look like that when there is absolutely nothing wrong. It happens and it's no fun, and it makes you crazy, lol.. But it *does* happen sometimes.

Do your stats trend more towards the 15 or the 0? Somewhere in the middle?

Stuff like this is why I always try to look on a weekly, bi-weekly or monthly basis instead of hourly or daily. Helps with the sanity, lol. :Oh crap

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