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theking 07-07-2005 03:55 AM

For all of you complacent Canadians
 
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50 Terrorist Groups in Canada

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service, counterpart of the CIA, said terrorist representatives are actively raising money, procuring weapons, ?manipulating immigrant communities? and facilitating travel to and from the United States and other countries.

Besides al-Qaida, those groups include Islamic Jihad; Hezbollah and other Shiite groups; Hamas, the Palestinian Force 17, Egyptian Al Jihad and various other Sunni groups from across the Middle East, CSIS said.

"Osama Bin Laden has named Canada as the group?s fifth highest Christian target, yet Canadians still see U.S. foreign policy as more detrimental to Canada?s future than terrorism according to a poll. It?s time for Canadians to wake up and realize that radical Islamic terrorism does not see Canada as an ally, but only as a haven."

Rui 07-07-2005 04:14 AM

ooohhh please STFU.....

Paul Waters 07-07-2005 04:19 AM

Procurring weapons in Canada??????

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cool1 07-07-2005 04:30 AM

Its only a matter of time before they blow something up in Canada

Paul Waters 07-07-2005 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cool1
Its only a matter of time before they blow something up in Canada

Can I make some suggestions?

jayeff 07-07-2005 04:48 AM

Oh get off it. What the heck do you think motivated all the groups you mention, if not US foreign policy in the middle east over the past 80 years?

Why do I bother: I can anticipate your response. But if you have even a fraction of the knowledge you profess about these issues, whatever you write, you know damn well that prolonged interference in other countries' affairs would have produced the exact same results wherever we had pursued such a policy.

Pan-Arab nationalism and religous fundamentalism were the inevitable consequences of our sustained efforts to keep the region unstable. It is total fantasy to imagine that otherwise the people of the middle east would be any more anti-american, anti-western than say, the people of Singapore.

The middle east was the crossroads of the world for hundreds of years. The region had particularly close ties with Britain, some countries not seeking independence until the 1950's and 1960's. There is nothing whatever to suggest that left to their own devices, there would be such a thing as arab or islamic terrorism today.

theking 07-07-2005 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
Oh get off it. What the heck do you think motivated all the groups you mention, if not US foreign policy in the middle east over the past 80 years?

Why do I bother: I can anticipate your response. But if you have even a fraction of the knowledge you profess about these issues, whatever you write, you know damn well that prolonged interference in other countries' affairs would have produced the exact same results wherever we had pursued such a policy.

Pan-Arab nationalism and religous fundamentalism were the inevitable consequences of our sustained efforts to keep the region unstable. It is total fantasy to imagine that otherwise the people of the middle east would be any more anti-american, anti-western than say, the people of Singapore.

The middle east was the crossroads of the world for hundreds of years. The region had particularly close ties with Britain, some countries not seeking independence until the 1950's and 1960's. There is nothing whatever to suggest that left to their own devices, there would be such a thing as arab or islamic terrorism today.

This is relevant to the thread title and the article? Educate me please.

jayeff 07-07-2005 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
This is relevant to the thread title and the article? Educate me please.

I wasn't aware you had any interest in being educated, but since you have apparently forgotten the content of your original post: "Canadians still see U.S. foreign policy as more detrimental to Canada?s future than terrorism according to a poll"

The Sultan Of Smut 07-07-2005 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
There is nothing whatever to suggest that left to their own devices, there would be such a thing as arab or islamic terrorism today.

Left to their own devices there would probably be thriving democracies such as the one in Iran under Mohammed Mossadegh. The problem was that Mossadegh decided to nationalize the petroleum industry (like President Hugo Chavez is currently doing in Venezuela) so that the profits can go directly back to the people of the country. That's a no no.

theking 07-07-2005 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
I wasn't aware you had any interest in being educated, but since you have apparently forgotten the content of your original post: "Canadians still see U.S. foreign policy as more detrimental to Canada?s future than terrorism according to a poll"

Your point is of course not relevant to the title of this thread nor the thrust of the article...now is it?

The point of the title is the complaceny of the Canadian government and Canadians per se about the fact that they are harboring 50 global terrorist groups and allowing more to come into their country because of their relaxed immigration laws.

The thrust of the article is the fact that Canada...according to Osama Bin Laden is 5th on the list of terrorist targets.

FYI America is not the only government whose foreign policy is in play for the past 80 years...and in fact coutries of Euorpe played a much larger role in the mid east than America has over the past 80 years.

It is immaterial what may have caused these terrorists groups to come into being...the fact is they exist...they are active...and their target is not just America. It is Western culture per se.

BRISK 07-07-2005 05:35 AM

Canada's clandestine Communications Security Establishment, which listens in on conversations and translates messages from foreigners under suspicion, has increased its annual budget by 57 percent since Sept. 11, and Canada has spent some $6.5 billion to beef up security along its border.

There currently are four Arab Muslim men in Canadian jails under "security certificates," which allow Ottawa to detain suspects without public trial or evidence in the name of national security.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in706993.shtml

notjoe 07-07-2005 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
It is immaterial what may have caused these terrorists groups to come into being...the fact is they exist...they are active...and their target is not just America. It is Western culture per se.

Fact is the USA funded and trained bin laden to do what he is doing today.

You guys created the problem and its YOUR responsibility to deal with it not the world's. The reason Canada hasnt been hit yet is probably because we never joined the BS war to begin with.

Thanks for coming out though

BRISK 07-07-2005 05:37 AM

http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/anti_terr/

theking 07-07-2005 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe
Fact is the USA funded and trained bin laden to do what he is doing today.

You guys created the problem and its YOUR responsibility to deal with it not the world's. The reason Canada hasnt been hit yet is probably because we never joined the BS war to begin with.

Thanks for coming out though

Wrong...the fact is the USA funded and trained the Muhajadeen...of which Bin Laden became a part of...to fight the Soviets when they invaded Afghanistan. Bin Laden helped to form al Qaeda...in later years and they created the problem.

What BS war are you referring to?

Dagwolf 07-07-2005 05:51 AM

People insist on thinking the attacks on the U.S. are random assaults by an insane religious/ethnic group.

A solution to the problem cannot begin until those people ask themselves what their government did to bring on such hatred.

notjoe 07-07-2005 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
Wrong...the fact is the USA funded and trained the Muhajadeen...of which Bin Laden became a part of...to fight the Soviets when they invaded Afghanistan. Bin Laden helped to form al Qaeda...in later years and they created the problem.

What BS war are you referring to?

You're right. He was never trained by the CIA to fuck with the Russians?

Either you're pretty stupid or you're trolling.

notjoe 07-07-2005 06:02 AM

I guess MSNBC must be talking a lot of bullshit as well and that YOU know it all.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp?cp1=1 go educate yourself a little

Wolfy 07-07-2005 06:02 AM

I love political debates on GFY :D

RoCkMaN 07-07-2005 06:03 AM

We'll have to lobb beer bottles at the fuckers.

Anyways, it would be stupid of Al-Quaida to attack us Canadians... Christ!, I've got about 40 Muslims living on my street alone.....

WiredGuy 07-07-2005 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters
Procurring weapons in Canada??????

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


You ever seen a polar bear wearing a vest of dynamite? It's not pretty.
WG

rambler 07-07-2005 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe
You're right. He was never trained by the CIA to fuck with the Russians?

Either you're pretty stupid or you're trolling.

He's theKing; of course he's pretty stupid.

theking 07-07-2005 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe
You're right. He was never trained by the CIA to fuck with the Russians?

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Try reading the post again.

EviLGuY 07-07-2005 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rambler
He's theKing; of course he's pretty stupid.

This is true. :1orglaugh

directfiesta 07-07-2005 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy
I love political debates on GFY :D

When TheKing is involved, the debate level is brought back to plain stupid...

http://www.webdejob.com/images/the_king.jpg

fris 07-07-2005 08:39 AM

look at bush hes a fucking monkey

StuartD 07-07-2005 08:44 AM

So let me get this straight... there are terrorists in Canada, and we don't feel threatened or at risk? Infact, neither do the terrorists.
So... it's like... we're... at peace?? WTF?

I was taught by US media that there is no peace and we are "at war with terrorism" so how can this be??

Why haven't we been bombed and killed on a large scale?? Why in the hell would these nice peace loving terrorists ever want to leave Canada and attack the US?

Hmm... something to think about maybe?

cashengine 07-07-2005 08:59 AM

you mean the sepratists right? arent they french....vive la quebec allahu akbar....LOOL


They'd be stupid to blow us up if we are their base...eventually they will discover our beer and once they do they will discover our BC pot, then there will be world peace!

pawsregd 07-07-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters
Can I make some suggestions?

Let's start with TO :evil-laug

Icon 07-07-2005 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
You ever seen a polar bear wearing a vest of dynamite? It's not pretty.
WG

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
They're a well organized group of terrorists, those damn polar bears. Mauling and the whatnot. All those poor Inuit......

Rui 07-07-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
When TheKing is involved, the debate level is brought back to plain stupid...

http://www.webdejob.com/images/the_king.jpg

No doubt about that....I wonder what the hell he does @ GFY besides stupid threads about politics (I must agree he does say some funny stuff most of the times tho :1orglaugh )

The Sultan Of Smut 07-07-2005 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe
I guess MSNBC must be talking a lot of bullshit as well and that YOU know it all.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp?cp1=1 go educate yourself a little

Interesting, I didn't think a main stream journalist would ever use a Ward Churchill quote.

VeriSexy 07-07-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
"Osama Bin Laden has named Canada as the group?s fifth highest Christian target, yet Canadians still see U.S. foreign policy as more detrimental to Canada?s future than terrorism according to a poll. It?s time for Canadians to wake up and realize that radical Islamic terrorism does not see Canada as an ally, but only as a haven."


Hundreds if billions of Amercian tax payer dollars spent and they still don't have Osama Bin Laden . They manage to find Sadamn hiding in a hole in a old barn but still no Osama Bin Laden :helpme :helpme :helpme

bringer 07-07-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK
There currently are four Arab Muslim men in Canadian jails under "security certificates," which allow Ottawa to detain suspects without public trial or evidence in the name of national security.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in706993.shtml

i thought that only happened in the evil us of a

Jay_StandAhead 07-07-2005 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Hundreds if billions of Amercian tax payer dollars spent and they still don't have Osama Bin Laden . They manage to find Sadamn hiding in a hole in a old barn but still no Osama Bin Laden :helpme :helpme :helpme

but if they found bin laden, then the public would think the war on terror is over and they would most likely withdraw support to bush's policy of agression.

They can't find bin laden if they want their agenda to go through

directfiesta 07-07-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
but if they found bin laden, then the public would think the war on terror is over and they would most likely withdraw support to bush's policy of agression.

They can't find bin laden if they want their agenda to go through

http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/muaddib/carrot.jpg


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