WHy would anyone want to be a satanist? I dont get it
 

I understand youre against religion and all that, and that's cool .
But why not just be athiest? Or agnostic or something?
Why be a part of something violent, where you hope to spend eternity burning in pain?
I dont know anything about satanism so I dont know what the beliefs are, Im just guessing they hope to spend eternity with the devil.

Plus if you believe in satan then you believe in afterlife and god and everything.
If yoU DONT believe and want to reject god and jesus and everything, then why not just be athiest?

Seems you do not know anything about Satanism to me.

So why try and talk about it?

So you can set the record straight since I obviously dont know.

Satanists are attention whores and/or mentally disturbed.

http://www.churchofsatan.com

Satanism about about the true nature of mankind and harnessing that power.

The Nine Satanic Sins

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987



1. Stupidity?The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It?s too bad that stupidity isn?t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

2. Pretentiousness?Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn?t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone?s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.

3. Solipsism?Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won?t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of ?Do unto others as they do unto you.? It?s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.

4. Self-deceit?It?s in the ?Nine Satanic Statements? but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it?s fun, and with awareness. But then, it?s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity?That?s obvious from a Satanic stance. It?s all right to conform to a person?s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective?Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints?know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies?Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it?s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

8. Counterproductive Pride?That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you?ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I?m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.

9. Lack of Aesthetics?This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It?s not what?s supposed to be pleasing?it?s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one?s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

The more you read about it the more it makes sense.

Anyways.
I am not a Satanist but I do spend time once in a bit to study different life philosophies and doctrines.

But I particularly like #6

I'll give you one good reason, you get to fuck a lot of sacrificial virgins :thumbsup

When you accept nothing will happen when you die, apart from simply losing you conscience, Satanism has some very nice guidelines to make the best out of your stay here.

Satanists are almost as stupid as Christians...almost...
both are flocks of blind sheep too stupid to follow any of their own beliefs and draw their own conclusions...

I'm an athiest and too put me in the same category as as Satanist is stupid.

First of all if you believe in Satan you have to believe in God. Satan doesn't exist unless God exists too. Secondly Satanists beleive in life after death. Seems Satanists have moe in common with Christians than athiests. Athiests do not beleive in ANY god not just the Christian god. And we do not believe in life after death or any kind of heaven or hell.

well you believe all of that stuff does exist so both of yoiu base alot on beliefs.

I read the list provided and it proves the posters original point.

Are you hgh?

Athiest do NOT beleive any of that shit exists. God is fake, Satan is fake, Zeus is fake, Odin is fake, Ra is fake, every god, devil, demon whatever thought of by mankind EVER is fake. Heaven fake, Hell fake, Hades fake, Valhalla fake, reincarnation is fake etc etc.......

If you are a Stananist in my book you are equally as ignorant as a Christian. Actually probally more so because if you believe that God is real then why risk eternal damnation by worshiping Satan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanist

Satanism is a religious, semi-religious and/or philosophical movement whose adherents recognize Satan, either as an archetype, literal being, pre-cosmic force, or anything inbetween. Some Satanists celebrate aspects of human nature represented by the usually Christian or literary (Milton, Goethe) Satan archetype. Many Satanists do not worship a deity called Satan or any other deity. Unlike many religions and philosophies, Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. However, some Satanists do have moral codes, e.g., the 9 Statements or 11 Laws of the Laveyan Satanists.

It should be noted that the depiction of so-called "Gothic Satanism" is not actually known to be practiced in the world today. This is the Satanism accused during the Inquisition, with tales of murder and baby-eating.

Many contemporary Satanists eschew traditional religious beliefs, attitudes and worship in favor of a more egotistic worldview and practices such as magick. Groups or individuals described in some sense or another as Satanic can largely, though incomprehensively, be described as belonging to one of two unofficial sub-groupings: Philosophical Satanism or Religious Satanism.

Satanists should be beaten.

Lavey made it all up, his daugther said so. Pretty good con man, got a few celebs into it like Sammy Davis Junior. So all you guys that were molested by priests checkout scientology. Aliens are where it's at now lol.

Satanism values the siginificance of satanism on the existence of Christianity. The Yin and Yang concept--black and white, fire and water, moron and genius, etc.

they had a good idea going but Laveye turned into a Nihilist at the end and semi-Nazi, they don't believe in God or Satan, Satan is a creation of GoD.

:1orglaugh I love atheist. They have no grasp of reality so they bash others that actually believe in something.

You never danced with the devil?

I said you both have beliefs. Yours are different but it is still based on limited knowledge. You believe they are fake.

Because whatever it takes to not have to spend eternity with those over religious, little boy molesting, never my fault, tradition changing, war mongering, hypocritical, lying, bastards...

The 11 Satanic Rules:
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another?s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.


Sounds good to me...

Satanists!!!
 

Its great when these do gooders knock on your door Sundays. Trying to push their form of religion down your throat.

Just tell them you worship Satan and they run a mile, you never see them again. Believe me i know i do this every time.

Satanism is boring :sleep

So true... :1orglaugh :helpme

Be an Athiest. They're a non-profit organization.

Atheists are idiots. The believe in nothing and I see really no reason for why they should carry on, if a true Atheist one should kill themselves in my opinion cause life is nothing. Also atheists are not really atheists, majority are mostly self driven ego-maniacs that know there is something more but don't want to admit to it cause that means that would go against what they think. I tried buying atheist souls but for some reason they would not sell it to me no matter of the price, even though they supposedly don't even believe in that period, they should have to gave it to me for free. So atheist = bullshit

As for Satanism, it isn't bad from what I have seen and heard of. Just like other religions like Koran, Christianity they have crazy ass followers that dement the true followings in the book they study and we are too ignorant to separate these people from a whole so we just group them all together and call them EVIL. I was actually suprised when I read some of Satanism cause I expecting all these evil acts expected from followers but a lot of guidelines are righteous compared to other religions, go figure...

Personally I think statistically religion isn't bad but PEOPLE ARE EVIL. Religions I think for the most part promote good self being, but you have people come a long through the ages that thirst for power and manipulations that twists the text into something that has become tainted. This is the reason I don't think I would confide into a single religions but learn all and try to sift through the lies to find the truth. They all hold keys but not the answer.

"I don't believe in the devil" - Rachel Weisz

"You should, he believes in you" - Keanu Reeves

Taken from the movie "Constantine"

... in the pale moonlight?





sorry, line from a movie. Carry on.

Satanism isn't about violence at all. You just don't know what it is.

Truly, i don't care wether someone is christan, atheist or satanist.

It makes for some great bed time stories.

"God is dead!" - Nietszche, 1883
"Nietszche is dead!" - God, 1900

You're talking about 2.1 billion christians on earth. 2.1 billion minds can't be as stupid as you. :winkwink:

geezh...ive got no plan of being a satanist

Seriously now.
This thread is pointless.

this sums it up

So you believe in Santa Claus also?..Because 2 billion children do that
:pimp

You will find the truth about this and many other things Here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=488198

Are you referring to those crazy attention needing Satanist you see on the sidewalks, talking through their megaphones, preaching their Satanic ways.

Or how about all those Satanic billboards?

Or maybe those whacky ass Satanists that go door to door telling you that you need to become a Satanist?

I know, I know, it's those Satanists who love to stick their little Satanic cocks into little boys asses...

Are those the mentally disturb Satanists you are referring to?

So somebody who can't take a leap of "faith" is an idiot? Whereas someone who believes in something that has as much evidence as ghosts existing is enlightened?


[QUOTE=Agnosticism]Atheists are idiots. The believe in nothing and I see really no reason for why they should carry on, if a true Atheist one should kill themselves in my opinion cause life is nothing. Also atheists are not really atheists, majority are mostly self driven ego-maniacs that know there is something more but don't want to admit to it cause that means that would go against what they think. I tried buying atheist souls but for some reason they would not sell it to me no matter of the price, even though they supposedly don't even believe in that period, they should have to gave it to me for free. So atheist = bullshit

The ignorance in this thread is incredible. Satanists do not believe in Satan. Satan is symbolic of their beliefs. In the Christian faith, Satan represents things like indulgence and gratification. So it really is the perfect symbol for what they believe. And no, i am not a Satanist.

The below is taken from http://satanism101.com/satfaq.html

But hey, ignore this post and continue to be an ignorant 'tard.

Atheists have plenty to live for, as this is their only chance (it's not a dress-rehearsal) they're not satisfied with a simplistic description of what life is all about.

"The feeling of awed wonder that science can give us is one of the highest experiences of which the human psyche is capable. It is a deep aesthetic passion to rank with the finest that music and poetry can deliver. It is truly one of the things that make life worth living and it does so, if anything, more effectively if it convinces us that the time we have for living is quite finite."
-richard dawkins.

This rule applies to GFY:

5. Herd Conformity?That?s obvious from a Satanic stance. It?s all right to conform to a person?s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

I was going to say the same. Even for GFY there are some amazingly dumb posts in this thread.

religions are subjective. most of them are just modifications of others with one common belief, higher power. i think what really attracts people to become satanist is the promise of freedom.

and non-atheists are what? smart? LOL. I'm an athiest and I do believe in something. MYSELF. I don't need some made up invisible man to make me feel like a better person. People are free to believe what they want, but when they try to shove it down our throats that's when they see the less friendly side of people. Most religious people are brainwashed and will believe just about anything they tell them. So, who is the idiot? The ones that chose to not believe or the one that believes and lives their entire life according to some set of stupid rules made up by PEOPLE long ago? That to me is a very easy answer. See, religious people are the critical and judgemental ones. If you don't believe what they do then you are "evil" and they must try to "help" you. you look a certain way that they don't approve of then you're "evil" in their book. Sorry to say but I will not follow stupid idiotic rules. I would prefer to live MY own life and think for myslef thanx. Wether this so called God exists or not I don't give a shit. Never have and never will. Money is the root of all evil yet they want as much of it as they can get their hands on.. Ya, they make a lot of sense. Preach shit to people but never do what you're preaching about. Oh, but athiests are the idiots.. Ok whatever.

That's an excellent point.

athiest and agnostic are almost basicly the same, There is a Weak version and there is a Strong version, Wikipedia is always your fucking answer when in doubt..

No, they're just laughing at people who believe in something stupid. :1orglaugh

I laugh at people who believe that fairies live at the bottom of the garden too!

I'm an atheist and I believe in plenty of things. One of them is that you're an idiot.

Do you even understand what an atheist is?