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angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 11:37 AM

For designers and clients: is it okay to ask downpayment upfront?
 
Do you think it is right for designers who are just starting out to ask a downpayment from their client upfront? I am juz wondereing about this because we have been burned twice already by clients who ran out on us after we have given them their designs.. and didn't pay a single cent.. i need your opinions.

Sid70 06-29-2005 11:40 AM

depends. the days i was starting i wanted to make up my potfolio, so , i worked for free sometimes even.

Steen2 06-29-2005 11:42 AM

Yes.

It sucks thought. I know there ar eso many crappy clients out there, and so many crappy designers too :(

jonesy 06-29-2005 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
Do you think it is right for designers who are just starting out to ask a downpayment from their client upfront? I am juz wondereing about this because we have been burned twice already by clients who ran out on us after we have given them their designs.. and didn't pay a single cent.. i need your opinions.

if you havent learned from being burned twice .... get 50% up front.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-29-2005 12:39 PM

Always half to full upfront.

No matter how hard they want a different deal.

After Shock Media 06-29-2005 12:39 PM

also do not hand over actual design without payment.
Just show them an uncut jpg with a watermark on it.

smack 06-29-2005 12:40 PM

50% up front is not un reasonable. it's unfortunate that to keep from being scammed, in many cases it is neccesary to ask for a deposit. :\

MyNameIsEmily 06-29-2005 12:42 PM

always...

angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 12:44 PM

well does anyone else have other opnions.. please...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-29-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
well does anyone else have other opnions.. please...

No unless you like getting ripped off.

angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 12:47 PM

to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-29-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?

If they are afraid to put money up even half they are broke.
Find another client.

cool1 06-29-2005 12:59 PM

YA Angel what they said
50% up front or don't do business with them.

Roald 06-29-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?

If people like your work/porfolio and know what you can do they will pay half upfront without a problem. I started to ask for at least half upfront since a year now and most don't care and even pay all upfront.

Problem is designers come and designers go, with new designers its always scary as they have 0 credibillity (most of the time) and lots of them are getting lazy after they got the payment.

:2 cents:

shima 06-29-2005 01:08 PM

Not always. :)

Azlord 06-29-2005 01:10 PM

Depends on the client, if you know them and trust them I wouldn't require it. Some guy you have never dealt with I would almost always get something up front.

angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe
new designers its always scary as they have 0 credibillity (most of the time) and lots of them are getting lazy after they got the payment.

:2 cents:

well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.. that is i think why we got burned out.. they took advantage of us.. knowing that we are just new in this biz

Roald 06-29-2005 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Azlord
Depends on the client, if you know them and trust them I wouldn't require it. Some guy you have never dealt with I would almost always get something up front.

hm I tend to do this yes but half a year ago a client who always paid everything without a problem (talking several complete paysites here) decided to not pay me for the last 2 complete paysites. 1100 down the shitter.

I do have clients though who I work for and they pay me after a month or 2 months and I just add everything till that payment date.

Be carefull who to trust though :2 cents:

Babagirls 06-29-2005 01:23 PM

50% upfront, the other 50% when completed.

BiggleJones 06-29-2005 01:23 PM

Yes. I ALWAYS ask for half or 1/3 up front before anything has been started.

$5 submissions 06-29-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.. that is i think why we got burned out.. they took advantage of us.. knowing that we are just new in this biz

Hang in there. It's a catch-22 at first.

Roald 06-29-2005 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.....

That's what they all say. But if you are still here next year then more power to you. No pun intended.

Forest 06-29-2005 01:31 PM

I have a few clients i dont require 50% down on design but they are serious players and have always paid ontime

any new business i require 50% down before work starts

angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe
That's what they all say. But if you are still here next year then more power to you. No pun intended.

don't worry we'll be here.. just for you we'll be here..hehehe

angel_x3ws 06-29-2005 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggleJones
Yes. I ALWAYS ask for half or 1/3 up front before anything has been started.

btw bigglejones.. i like your sig.. makes me feel sorry for the poor lady who got trampled down..must have hurt big time

Roald 06-29-2005 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by angel_x3ws
don't worry we'll be here.. just for you we'll be here..hehehe

Good news :thumbsup

Ace_luffy 06-29-2005 01:49 PM

it depends on the client nor designers..


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