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Chimmy 06-28-2005 09:23 PM

Search Engine Experts - How is this done?
 
Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

Try it for yourself.
www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
Number 1 for springbreak babes

www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
Number 1 for free mpg teen

and so on.

I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?

Alex 06-28-2005 10:46 PM

You have showed two samples.

Which arent big searched terms.

sean416 06-28-2005 10:49 PM

why do you want to know how they do it?

Pornwolf 06-28-2005 11:43 PM

I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

Shoehorn! 06-28-2005 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

:1orglaugh

wm_cibi 06-29-2005 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

Try it for yourself.
www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
Number 1 for springbreak babes

www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
Number 1 for free mpg teen

and so on.

I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?

he uses his own program... he is known spammer...

M

Chimmy 06-29-2005 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
You have showed two samples.

Which arent big searched terms.

Do a search on his site in google.

There are 132,000 pages indexed in google.

And why do I want to know how they do it? Simple. I too depend a great deal on SEO for my traffic. This means studying ALL types of pages that are receiving top rankings...whether they use black hat or white hat.

FilthyRob 06-29-2005 07:06 AM

That's hardcore search engine spamming. If the pages aren't related to the search string at all, I would imagine getting him banned would be easy. In a perfect world it would be.

willysbirthday 06-29-2005 07:07 AM

That domain will get flagged... Notice that there is no "cached version" of the page... Also notice that the text google has spidered and associated with the page is not actually there when you click in

Manowar 06-29-2005 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

:1orglaugh

kinetic 06-29-2005 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.


good one! :1orglaugh

Trax 06-29-2005 08:02 AM

he's doing a good job
whoever it is

johndoebob 06-29-2005 08:06 AM

Cloaking, if you want a tool that does it check out Phantom Cloaker

teksonline 06-29-2005 08:23 AM

What's funny is all his pages dont have that "cached" feature in google like all the other terms.... Why is that? and what determines if you have that cached page feature in google

teksonline 06-29-2005 08:27 AM

I viewed the source, it's just a TGP page, probably when he notices a term to get #1, he stops updating that tgp page and then cloaks it...

johndoebob 06-29-2005 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
What's funny is all his pages dont have that "cached" feature in google like all the other terms.... Why is that? and what determines if you have that cached page feature in google

Through a line of code you can prevent caching.

Cloaking = One page keyword filled for google and one page for the user.

Phantom Cloaker can do all those things automated for you.

teksonline 06-29-2005 08:32 AM

And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways :) I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.

johndoebob 06-29-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways :) I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.

It's fast money, that's all and as long as the cloaking - actual content correlation doesn't get too irrelevant you won't get problems that fast.

Trax 06-29-2005 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline
And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways :) I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.

you don't even know how to disable cache on a page and give us search engine advice??
you gotto be kidding :1orglaugh

AmateurFlix 06-29-2005 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
Phantom Cloaker can do all those things automated for you.

How many pages need to be made w/ that program to show results? I had it make up several hundred cloacked pages but the only page that ever got indexed was the legit front page. After a week or two I removed all the cloaked pages since the legitimate one was doing well. I'd hate to think I wasted $100+ on that program though.

johndoebob 06-29-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
How many pages need to be made w/ that program to show results? I had it make up several hundred cloacked pages but the only page that ever got indexed was the legit front page. After a week or two I removed all the cloaked pages since the legitimate one was doing well. I'd hate to think I wasted $100+ on that program though.

Without good inbound links not much will be indexed of course.

AmateurFlix 06-29-2005 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
Without good inbound links not much will be indexed of course.

That makes sense; but what should be linked, just the front page or links to all the cloaked pages it generates? I had a few sites linking to the front page in this instance, one PR4 site mostly PR1-2, but nothing to the cloaked pages.

Dalai lama 06-29-2005 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

Try it for yourself.
www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
Number 1 for springbreak babes

www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
Number 1 for free mpg teen

and so on.

I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?

I noticed something similair on dutch terms. +- 10 different domains promoting Webcams, they all get the top spots.

taibo 06-29-2005 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

Try it for yourself.
www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
Number 1 for springbreak babes

www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
Number 1 for free mpg teen

and so on.

I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?

didnt work for me.

AdultNex 06-29-2005 09:46 AM

Here's the real uncloaked page: http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%...Yahoo%21+Slurp

I finally figured out how they're doing it, but I can't say a thing.

johndoebob 06-29-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
That makes sense; but what should be linked, just the front page or links to all the cloaked pages it generates? I had a few sites linking to the front page in this instance, one PR4 site mostly PR1-2, but nothing to the cloaked pages.

Index or sitemap, if the PR is strong enough and the site you're linking from gets spidered daily it all shouldn't be a problem. The amount of sites shown in the google index is just limited if the site itself doesn't have a PR at 6 or above.

sean416 06-29-2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultNex
I finally figured out how they're doing it, but I can't say a thing.


you're so elite :1orglaugh

Crypt 06-29-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

Try it for yourself.
www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
Number 1 for springbreak babes

www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
Number 1 for free mpg teen

and so on.

I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?

ZZZzzZZzzZZZzzZZZ

Modify your browser user agent for Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

You will see the real pages

Not really hard to figure out and see the real setup.

You are so elite :upsidedow

AdultNex 06-29-2005 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean416
you're so elite :1orglaugh

:winkwink:

8chars-im-an-elite-sem

Chimmy 07-02-2005 08:37 AM

Just an update. I too figured it out shortly after I posted this thread. I changed my user-agent to googlebot in Firefly, and could easily see the real pages. And I found the software that they were using to do both the cloaking and the doorway page -fantomaster. A pricey little piece of software at over $1,000.

Interesting development....I have noticed songlyrics4free.com pages coming up for numerous search terms for about 4 months. Today, every single page is gone from google. And so are the pages from another of their domains, tonsoflyrics.com. Doing a site: or link: search brings up zero. Hmmmm...do we have a google spy in our midst?

VeriSexy 07-02-2005 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
ZZZzzZZzzZZZzzZZZ

Modify your browser user agent for Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

You will see the real pages

Not really hard to figure out and see the real setup.

You are so elite :upsidedow


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


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