The US Supreme Court outlaws P2P programs!
 

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...7/tc_zd/154878

Just how serious is this? Not only is this a huge step towards government control over the internet, but it also fucks up a mainstream affiliate program that I am working on, that I was going to have a legal P2P program to promote there.

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It just makes pretty much any tech company liable to be sued. It doesn't really mean shit to all the P2P companies outside of the US or all the open source P2P apps. Fuck, Sharman Networks, the guys who own Kazaa, are spread between something like 3 or 4 different countries.

Damn these judges are completely out of control

They also decided this week that the government can confiscate your property if Walmart wants to build a superstore where your house is

Fucking traitors

nothing will happen..

So does that mean they are going to hold ISP liable as well for newsgroups?

Perhaps you should read the ruling again.

The case was sent back to the lower court for consideration again. The lower court is directed to consider whether the product was ***marketed*** as a tool to share copywriten material. Which the Supremes ruled was actionable by copywrite holders.

This is not a challenge to the Sony decision when the courts ruled that substantial legal use made the vendor immune from lawsuits about illegal use.

They won't be happy until we are back to mailing letters and watching TV all day.

I think they want no more internet.

IRC, newsgroups?

I don't like this...

"The decision also overturns a precedent set by the seminal 1984 Sony vs. Universal, or the "Betamax," case, in which the high court ruled that recording hardware manufacturers could not be held responsible for how individuals use their products."

Hopefully sundance vs reno is a stronger case.

Next they'll say a company like Dell is liable because people use their computers to download pirate content.

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Now that I'm a copyright holder myself this stuff doesn't bother me nearly as much as it used to.

Think they can use immenent domain to reposses domain names?

Supreme court is throwing Journalists in jail to...

freedom of the press is dead.

America is starting to look more and more like a fascist regime. , you idiot americans fucked yourselves up the ass again :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So microsoft would be accountable also? We can download download movies and music also with their software (windows / outlook / ie).
It seams so braud, I bet it will get reversed when some major companies get involved.

newsgroups are not p2p
but since we dont see much of copyright infrigments on the www, like during wild-west times of the early web, most likely usenet will be regulated as well at some point, not sure how it will be aproached though.

I'm actually glad that they put a stop sign for p2p, the lesser free crap there is the more money to be made. less spy/scam ware also.
obviously it wont get rid of file-sharing completely, it will just move it back to undergound which isn't bad IMO.

From what I can gather from the reports on the news here, it seems that Hollywood has just been given the green light to sue the creators of file sharing programs that encourage illegal downloads.

I wonder how this would relate to branded file sharing software. I also wonder if a disclaimer would be enough to show that you are not 'encouraging' it.

i guess i wont be able to download 100 meg college fuck fest videos anymore

They did not outlaw the technology. They outlawed the creation and promotion of such technology if the aim is to promote/foster/knowingly enable copyright infrigngment. Actually, the holding is not surprising (hence the 9-0 breakdown) since it just stated the obvious anti-infringment corollary of the landmark Betamax case of the 80s.

Yeah I agree with the mob here.. OUTLAWING THEFT IS A VIOLATION OF MY CIVIL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS>

well that was predictable.

The Supreme Court really dropped some bombs this week.

Exactly. There's no surprise there. It just highlighted COMMON SENSE implications that arose from the 80s Betamax case.

Companies like Microsoft are exempt from laws in America dude, they don't got shit to worry about.

the is fucking terrible, i cannot believe the idiocy of the usa government,

this will not fully stop anything, everything will just be moved offshore, the usa gov't is trying to take over the internet, its only soon that they will even tell americans what they can surf and when.

thank god i stayed in canada.

ok so then they are going to target gun companies next because they are the reason for murders that involve a gun? :helpme

Ssssshhhhhhhh. You're confusing the masses with FACTS. Only ones pissed are people too cheap to pay 79¢ for fricken song.

decided this week? shit, they just did that a couple months ago out here in the country. they had nice houses spray paint all over them marked to be demolished.

the new walmart opens July 7th.

he has his servers in Estonia I believe. Estonia law is strict about giving up info to other gov's

This is a good thing.. Gets rid of warez, cp, and all that other bs that shows up on those networks.

I gotta go... this place is getting more fucked up by the second.

yes gov't regulation rules! :helpme :helpme

This country is heading downward..

Some have already mentioned it but it only endangers those P2P apps that are promoted for illegal uses.
For example bittorrent was never promoted for downloading movies and in fact it started out as a great way to distribute Linux ISO`s and other legal content.The fact that it can be used for illegal uses does not endanger BT`s creator.
Still,the USA is looking more and more like a police state very quickly.Shit like the DMCA,Patriot Act is scary stuff...and this is coming from a guy living in venezuela where we have an authoritarian fuck for a president.

It rules like goverment rationing of health care...

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RIAA Slaps Hundreds of P2P File Sharers with Lawsuits.

RIAA didn't waste too much time, eh?

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That has nothing to do with this event. They've been doing that to P2P users for a while and I agree with it.

Thats great.. me and my co-worker here were just talking about this..

Should Craftsman be liable if a person stabs someone with a screwdriver because it was sharp enough to be used as a murder weapon??

Should there be warning labels on tooth brushes that state not to sharpen and use as a shank in prison?

Give me a fucking break.. people are responsible for their OWN actions... Mis-using something that is intended as something to share information is the persons own damn fault..

Maybe they should sue microsoft next because you can make digital music files off a cd for playback on your computer!!! Ohhhhh heaven forbid!

What a crock of shit...

Considering the large number of individuals named at once in these lawsuits I think the RIAA is trying to drive home a message. It?s timing with the favorable Supreme Court ruling helps the RIAA to scare the hell out of individuals in order to persuade them to begin downloading music legally. Though the fight so far has been based on the individual, the Supreme Court ruling now puts P2P services in the sights of organizations like the RIAA. If there are no P2P services I guess there couldn?t be individuals infringing on copyrights.

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