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KRosh 06-23-2005 02:47 PM

Breaking News 2257 -- 2:00 Pm Pst
 
DENVER - The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) announced today a stipulation between the parties in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales, under which the U.S. Department of Justice agrees that the regulations relating to the federal record-keeping and labeling law, 18 U.S.C. §2257, will not be enforced against plaintiffs and all FSC members until September 7, 2005.

The U.S. District Court in Denver will hold a preliminary injunction hearing on August 8, 2005, after which the judge will determine whether to issue a further injunction.

Specifically, the DOJ will not conduct any inspections or pursue any claims with regard to the plaintiffs and their members, but reserves the right to inspect and prosecute anyone who is not a plaintiff or FSC member.

According to the stipulation, agreed to and issued as an order of the Court today, the DOJ, will submit any entity it intends to inspect to a Special Master who will then check the entity?s name against a sealed and confidential FSC membership list. The Special Master will be appointed by the Court, with the consent of the parties, and will be under a specific obligation to maintain the confidentiality of the FSC membership list.

A master list of members will be submitted to the Special Master on Wednesday June 29, 2005, and will include all FSC members as of 2:00 p.m. PST, Saturday June 25, 2005.

At no time will the DOJ have direct access to the FSC membership list, which will remain under seal.

All FSC members should advise the FSC office of all of their dbas by Monday, June 27, 2005, so that the master list will be as complete as possible.

On behalf of the entire adult entertainment industry, the FSC acknowledges the bravery and integrity of our co-plaintiffs, New Beginnings and Dave Cummings. We trust that the industry appreciates their willingness to take on the fight for justice on behalf of all of us.

The FSC also expresses appreciation to our extraordinary legal team: H. Louis Sirkin, Paul Cambria, Art Schwartz, Jennifer Kingsley, Roger Wilcox, Michael Gross, Barry Covert and Michael Deal. Special acknowledgement also to Michael Murray, whose agreement with the DoJ in the Connections Magazine case in Cleveland, Ohio, laid the groundwork for this agreement.

Over the course of the next few months, there will be continuing proceedings, including discovery, that culminate with the August 8, 2005 preliminary injunction hearing. While we remain optimistic regarding our ultimate success in the litigation, the FSC encourages everyone to try to comply with the law to the extent that it is possible.


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Socks 06-23-2005 02:49 PM

Ooooooooooooooh

KRosh 06-23-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks
Ooooooooooooooh



what happened ?? did you hurt yourself ?

Choker 06-23-2005 02:51 PM

A master list of members will be submitted to the Special Master on Wednesday June 29, 2005, and will include all FSC members as of 2:00 p.m. PST, Saturday June 25, 2005.

It's still not too late to join.

4Pics 06-23-2005 02:51 PM

It's good news I think, except for the part about "The Special Master will be appointed by the Court" who is the special master?

PMdave 06-23-2005 02:51 PM

nice... pay and you'll be left alone. SOOOOO glad I'm no american

Socks 06-23-2005 02:51 PM

Slipped, fell, landed on your chick.

Matt 26z 06-23-2005 02:51 PM

Interesting.

So you have to buy a membership to club non-prosecutable first.

If they represent the industry, ALL industry members should be on that list without having to pay to get on.

Harmon 06-23-2005 02:52 PM

Sig spot secured :thumbsup

Good news :)

KRosh 06-23-2005 02:53 PM

more of the story here ...http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9249

BTW .. www.SEX.com will match your donations to the FSC with traffic

even the corporate sponsor level $5000 to FSC will get you $5000 of traffic


Join the Free Speech Coalition right away
http://freespeechcoalition.com/

leedsfan 06-23-2005 02:54 PM

and if you're 100% in complaince like we are....then this doesnt matter either way...

KRosh 06-23-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks
Slipped, fell, landed on your chick.

did she like it ???

:)

PurrrsianPussyKat 06-23-2005 02:54 PM

Joining the FSC was the best money we ever spent!

fuelcell 06-23-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Interesting.

So you have to buy a membership to club non-prosecutable first.

If they represent the industry, ALL industry members should be on that list without having to pay to get on.

Yes and no. Why not pay dues? This is pretty standard for just about any industry. Support your industry (and quit whining).

ImaHogg 06-23-2005 02:55 PM

Sign up now.

Sarah_Jayne 06-23-2005 02:55 PM

they better get extra people on the phone and get their website working properly

RawAlex 06-23-2005 02:55 PM

They dropped the ball.

Quite simply, there was apparently not enough there to get a preliminary injunction, so now we have to live with 2257 as re-written for the next 2 to 3 months.

WTG.

I am so freaking glad to be in Canada.

Alex

Sly 06-23-2005 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Interesting.

So you have to buy a membership to club non-prosecutable first.

If they represent the industry, ALL industry members should be on that list without having to pay to get on.

It is a legal case. In order to be a part of the legal case, you have to be a plaintiff. You can easily become a plaintiff by joining the FSC, or you can file your own suit.

This isn't rocket science people.

Trax 06-23-2005 02:56 PM

same here :)
living in the most neutral country in the world has big pro's :winkwink:

ElvisManson 06-23-2005 02:56 PM

so no real suprises then.

:1orglaugh

Probono 06-23-2005 02:56 PM

Unless they prevail in obtaining a permanent injunction this is only a delay not a reprieve so use the time to get your files in order.

PattyeCake* 06-23-2005 02:57 PM

August 8, 2005 thats about what... 46 days? Granted any time is good, but thats really not a lot in the grand scheme of things...

Juicy D. Links 06-23-2005 02:57 PM

Fuck the Fuzzzz

KRosh 06-23-2005 02:58 PM

All of you who say are so proud to be in Canada ..This affects you also. If you don't have sponsors here in the US where are you going to send your traffic ?? if You are a site owner in Canada and your webmasters are from US how do you propose they do business with you>???


This affects all of us. We need to stick together :2 cents:

SiMpLe 06-23-2005 02:58 PM

Finally!! Thanks KRosh

buffdude 06-23-2005 02:59 PM

No shit I have been trying to do it by fax and phone for 8 hours :mad:

PMdave 06-23-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuelcell
Yes and no. Why not pay dues? This is pretty standard for just about any industry. Support your industry (and quit whining).

Maybe if you're doing biz in Sicily it's normal to pay "protection"-money to some organization but it sure isn't normal.

sunset 06-23-2005 02:59 PM

So they can still prosecute non-FSC members between now and August?
Why wouldn't they have to wait and see how the court case comes out before prosecuting anyone?

KRosh 06-23-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiMpLe
Finally!! Thanks KRosh

In the famous words of Mr. Juicy D Links

wooooooooooooffffffffffffff...LOL

:thumbsup

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:00 PM

So this means..... only those willing to pay for protection have been granted a stay of execution? Seems like a typical scenario. Not everyone HAS $300 to throw around. Sad for me, but I am one of those people. The idea of going to prison does not sound all that amusing to me. Not sure why. I think it's probably the food they serve. Better eat all the SPAM and Twinkies I can get my hands on before Big Brother gets a woody and batters down my door with it, 'cuz I feel no matter how hard I try to make all my free site projects 2257 compliant, some dweeb in the DOJ will find a detail that I missed and send the Four Horsemen after me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled weekday reality series programming...

Socks 06-23-2005 03:00 PM

Agreed. Same shit your girl told me.

buffdude 06-23-2005 03:00 PM

No shit I have been trying to do it by fax and phone for 8 hours

Juicy D. Links 06-23-2005 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh
In the famous words of Mr. Juicy D Links

wooooooooooooffffffffffffff...LOL

:thumbsup


its Wooooooooooooooooooof Meowwwwwwwwwwww Woofofffof

SinSational 06-23-2005 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffdude
No shit I have been trying to do it by fax and phone for 8 hours

same BS

"Due to technical difficulties, ordering online is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience."

newbreed 06-23-2005 03:02 PM

Good news. At least people have some more time to get their records in order if they need to.

seeric 06-23-2005 03:02 PM

i still don't undertand how they can apply the law to some and not others. selective enforcement. any lawyer would have a field day with this. this shit keeps getting whackier and whackier. and people think i'm a fuckin nut. heh!

Lord Aga 06-23-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh
more of the story here ...http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9249

BTW .. www.SEX.com will match your donations to the FSC with traffic

even the corporate sponsor level $5000 to FSC will get you $5000 of traffic


Join the Free Speech Coalition right away
http://freespeechcoalition.com/

And you might just make $200 with your $5000 of traffic!

Sly 06-23-2005 03:03 PM

It is a legal case. In order to be a part of the legal case, you have to be a plaintiff. You can easily become a plaintiff by joining the FSC, or you can file your own suit.

HAPPYPEEKERS 06-23-2005 03:03 PM

I just dont know if I want my name on a list that will be turned over to the gov.

Choker 06-23-2005 03:04 PM

Alternative fax number for the FSC is 818-701-6630 get your app in now
print this app here http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpora te then fax it in NOW

Braincash Pat 06-23-2005 03:04 PM

So everyone is on hold untill august. Good job to the FSC to protect its members. :thumbsup

PMdave 06-23-2005 03:06 PM

And in august they know who was trying to get in their way... good luck!

triumph 06-23-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
Alternative fax number for the FSC is 818-701-6630 get your app in now
print this app here http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpora te then fax it in NOW

Choker what are the difference in the dollar tables of the aplication to the FSC? Is that how much your company grosses? I want to join.

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:08 PM

OK, now let me get this straight.... I calledthem and they told me it was going to be $300 no matter what amount of money my dba made.... Can someone clarify this for me? I mean, shit.... I can EASILY spare $100 right now. It's only when you TRIPLE the figure that I am forced to wince....

xxxice 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

Cool :thumbsup

Tom_PM 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

The DOJ wont have the list. Only the "special master" will see it, and compare names of DOJ target with FSC member list. It'll probably be a judge.

blakkfrogg, if you earn between 0 and 100k per year, it should cost $100.

Dax 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PattyeCake*
August 8, 2005 thats about what... 46 days? Granted any time is good, but thats really not a lot in the grand scheme of things...

That is the monday right after internext... :Graucho

fuelcell 06-23-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakkfrogg
So this means..... only those willing to pay for protection have been granted a stay of execution? Seems like a typical scenario. Not everyone HAS $300 to throw around. Sad for me, but I am one of those people. The idea of going to prison does not sound all that amusing to me. Not sure why. I think it's probably the food they serve. Better eat all the SPAM and Twinkies I can get my hands on before Big Brother gets a woody and batters down my door with it, 'cuz I feel no matter how hard I try to make all my free site projects 2257 compliant, some dweeb in the DOJ will find a detail that I missed and send the Four Horsemen after me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled weekday reality series programming...

You might want to call FSC and check rates. Will probably be much lower than you think.

Choker 06-23-2005 03:10 PM

I just talked to Michelle they are getting a call center set up should be ready by 6:00 am tomorrow. She said to fax in your apps, that the payment will not be charged until they get caught up but if your app is in consider yourself a member.

Socks 06-23-2005 03:11 PM

Looks like it's $300 for webmasters, per website. Did I read that wrong? last option.

I think everyone is paying $300 to get an extension? I'm going to get compliant now, and follow the rules. If they change in the future I can adapt. Sounds like the list is for people who DONT want to comply.


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