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rickdu 06-20-2005 11:43 PM

dvd stores and the new 2257
 
After reading a bit about the new 2257, it would appear that my DVD store is FUCKED in regards to becoming compliant, because we can not obtain the required documentation from the manufactures on all 7000+ titles to bring the box covers into compliance.

Am I reading too much into this, or is that the fact?

:helpme

Mr.Fiction 06-21-2005 01:27 AM

It is unlikely they can force you to have documents on all of the titles. They are just trying to drive people out of business. Unfortunately, someone may have to go to court before the government is proven wrong.

There are no compliant documents on movies made before 1995. Will they arrest the guys showing or selling Deep Throat now?

rickdu 06-21-2005 03:39 AM

this shit sucks
 
I've been looking at other major adult stores, and it doesn't appear they are preparing to become new 2257 compliant, unless they're all planning to roll-out 2257 compliant stores on/by Thursday, like we're thinking we'll have to do.

A box cover just doesn't seem worth the risk of 10 years in prison for each. Yet on the other hand, I can only imagine what will happen to sales without them. :(

Anyone else have a dvd store? If so, what are you going to do?

directfiesta 06-21-2005 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702

Anyone else have a dvd store? If so, what are you going to do?

3 stores ...
Nothing ...

Canadian, in Canada, hosting in Canada, processing hard goods in Canada.

I am thinking of removing my exit link to malcom store... tough it is not hosted by me.

fireorange 06-21-2005 07:14 AM

erm, I thought DVD stores were regarded as distributors and are exempt from having model IDs?

rickdu 06-21-2005 12:42 PM

If that is the case, that would be great! but in all the info I've read, I haven't seen anything like that.

Has anyone else?

Mr.Fiction 06-21-2005 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireorange
erm, I thought DVD stores were regarded as distributors and are exempt from having model IDs?

Isn't there is a question about whether online stores are supposed to have all of the docs for their titles if they show DVD cover art?

davethetruth 06-21-2005 01:15 PM

Luckily we made our store (www.bedroomsports.com) compliant to these new rules years ago. There's no hardcore on our site.

NTSS 06-21-2005 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702

Anyone else have a dvd store? If so, what are you going to do?

I have my domain pointing to my virtual store. I don't think I am responsible under 2257 because none of it is hosted on my server.

rickdu 06-21-2005 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethetruth
Luckily we made our store (www.bedroomsports.com) compliant to these new rules years ago. There's no hardcore on our site.

Think again!

according to this: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/p...esentation.pdf

Cropping, bluring or alteration does not affect compliance requirements.

so welcome to the same boat i'm in :(

FilthyRob 06-21-2005 01:37 PM

all of this shit sucks

davethetruth 06-21-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702
Think again!

according to this: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/p...esentation.pdf

Cropping, bluring or alteration does not affect compliance requirements.

so welcome to the same boat i'm in :(

Well that's not cool!

How could they prove there is hardcore going on under there anyway. Seems a bit silly imo.

davethetruth 06-21-2005 01:45 PM

Ok I've got it. The manufaturers gave me those images blurred, so I'm not liable for 2257s. It's only if you change the images yourself I believe?

rickdu 06-21-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethetruth
Ok I've got it. The manufaturers gave me those images blurred, so I'm not liable for 2257s. It's only if you change the images yourself I believe?

nope.. because they are images depicting hardcore and according to the letter of the law, that requires you to have the ids to publish them.

davethetruth 06-21-2005 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702
nope.. because they are images depicting hardcore and according to the letter of the law, that requires you to have the ids to publish them.

Oh, I guess I should have my brother talk to his lawyer then, lol

Worst case scenerio we have to switch about 20-30 images with a generic compliant image.

Thanks for the heads up though, we've been just sitting back and watching it all unfold thinking that we were immune!

Rinaldo 06-21-2005 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethetruth
Luckily we made our store (www.bedroomsports.com) compliant to these new rules years ago. There's no hardcore on our site.


http://www.bedroomsports.com/Images.aspx?PIID=14164

blurring out the image isn't 2257 compliant... it still insinuates sexual acts

rickdu 06-21-2005 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethetruth
Thanks for the heads up though, we've been just sitting back and watching it all unfold thinking that we were immune!

I thought so too, untill I read it. This is causing all kinds of problems for me now. :Oh crap

davethetruth 06-21-2005 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo
http://www.bedroomsports.com/Images.aspx?PIID=14164

blurring out the image isn't 2257 compliant... it still insinuates sexual acts

son of a bitch :helpme

:winkwink:

directfiesta 06-21-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702
I thought so too, untill I read it. This is causing all kinds of problems for me now. :Oh crap

When you stop to think about it, you realize that these regulations are even more stupid than you first tought....
I sympatize with all you guys ...

Note: I have on a server a company in Hollywood that sells rights of major xxx studios to foreign distributors. They tought that they were exempt, to only realise they arent... The owner is Canadian but with a green card and residing in the US for the past 10 years ... They will have to comply.

thonglife 06-21-2005 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
When you stop to think about it, you realize that these regulations are even more stupid than you first tought....
I sympatize with all you guys ...

Note: I have on a server a company in Hollywood that sells rights of major xxx studios to foreign distributors. They tought that they were exempt, to only realise they arent... The owner is Canadian but with a green card and residing in the US for the past 10 years ... They will have to comply.

http://www.officerjellynutz.com/mp3s...e%20Police.mp3

directfiesta 06-21-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thonglife

pretty lousy music

thonglife 06-21-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
pretty lousy music

Yeah... not a big rap fan myself but the message is in the music. At least that's what all the artists say. But...if it's easier.. Fuck the Police.

Probono 06-21-2005 03:20 PM

The comments on the regualtions specifically single out the online DVD distributors and say in summary, if you scan and image you are a secondary producer.

davethetruth 06-21-2005 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick702
If that is the case, that would be great! but in all the info I've read, I haven't seen anything like that.

Has anyone else?

Can you post some info that you've read, (not from the boards) :helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireorange
erm, I thought DVD stores were regarded as distributors and are exempt from having model IDs?

I think this is the case

GatorB 06-21-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
There are no compliant documents on movies made before 1995. Will they arrest the guys showing or selling Deep Throat now?

Porn made before 1995 is EXEMPT. So no Deep Throat does NOT need to be 2257 compliant.

Mr.Fiction 06-21-2005 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Porn made before 1995 is EXEMPT. So no Deep Throat does NOT need to be 2257 compliant.

But what if the cover art was created after 1995 using content created before 1995?


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