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Sly 06-18-2005 01:59 PM

So I'm reading about scientology...
 
This shit is bizarre. I can't believe what I'm reading. Totally insane.

Ok, back to my studies. I must prepare for Xenu.

candyflip 06-18-2005 02:00 PM

What's even more insane is that people actually believe that shit.

Probono 06-18-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip
What's even more insane is that people actually believe that shit.


No more insane than any other religion.

candyflip 06-18-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Probono
No more insane than any other religion.

Which was exactly my point :winkwink:

After Shock Media 06-18-2005 02:06 PM

No what is truely insane is people will buy and read this and actually think they get some wisdom or insight.

Sly 06-18-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Probono
No more insane than any other religion.

Comparing scientology to other religions is pretty extreme. If even half of this stuff is true, it goes beyond anything I have ever learned as a child; I grew up in a pretty religious family.

MrIzzz 06-18-2005 02:24 PM

well if you wanna make 20 million a year as an actor you better convert now!!!!!!!

xxxdesign-net 06-18-2005 03:05 PM

Whats the craziest stuff you've read about ? Does it have any thing to do with ETs. etc.. ?

sickkittens 06-18-2005 03:06 PM

I just saw another interview w/ Tom Cruise. That guy has gone nutty.

Sly 06-18-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
Whats the craziest stuff you've read about ? Does it have any thing to do with ETs. etc.. ?

Actually, I haven't even read much about their core beliefs yet, just the very basics. I'm reading about how the Church operates and how it came into existence.

Just one of the bizarre things... early in the churches establishment it received tax-exempt status from the IRS. After a few years of being tax-exempt, the IRS took away their status due to obvious tax evasion and manipulation. The Church then went on to harass, steal from, bug, and sue the IRS over many many years. Finally in the early '90s the IRS grew fed up with the constant harassment and waste of resources that they cut a deal with the Church so that they again would receive tax-exempt status if they paid a sum of $12 million in back taxes.

Several key members of the Churches "military and intelligence branch", dubbed the Guardian's Office, were arrested in the early '80s for stealing records and sabotaging several United States government buildings across the country, I believe the operation was called "Operation Snow White". Hubbard was indicted but he disappeared and was never found until his death in '86.

taibo 06-18-2005 03:21 PM

seen an interview with tom cruise from australia and he totally went crazy on the interviewer :1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-18-2005 03:22 PM

Do you feel "clear"?

mardigras 06-18-2005 03:28 PM

Humans are prone to worship, often substituting wants for needs in the process. :upsidedow

Sly 06-18-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
Humans are prone to worship, often substituting wants for needs in the process. :upsidedow

I'm trying to find out WHY exactly people join...

From what I'm seeing, people join during a traumatic point in their life. The Church promises various things, similar to other churches and religions. However, Scientology seems to bring people in "easily" and then raise the demands. Money, time, resources, etc. The Church demands that the members cease contact with non-members. They can't read newspapers, magazines, watch news. Everything non-Scientology is evil and they are permitted to do bad things to non-believers. Its pretty crazy.

Donny 06-18-2005 03:36 PM

You really need to learn the TRUE history of Scientology, and not what the scientologists tell you. Do some reading:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ed&btnG=Search

Donny 06-18-2005 03:36 PM

Particularly this site:

http://www.xenu.net/

Donny 06-18-2005 03:38 PM

Join the Sea Org. LOL.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/so/

Sly 06-18-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
Particularly this site:

http://www.xenu.net/

This is the site I have been reading, a couple others too, plus book reviews.

LittleSassy 06-18-2005 03:41 PM

i dont even know this existed!lol...

Manowar 06-18-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleSassy
i dont even know this existed!lol...

:1orglaugh how could you not have?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-18-2005 03:43 PM

The Church of Scientology worships the God of the tax loophole, plain and simple.

For example, a famous rich person actor (say, someone like John Travolta) buys an airplane, donates it to the Church and then uses it whenever he wants. Instant tax write-off while still enjoying all of the benefits.

If you want to join a cult, I recommend cDc (Cult of the Dead Cow).

If it's religion you seek, then try the Church of the SubGenius.

If you really must have all the answers, than consult Cecil Adams and get the Straight Dope.

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BradM 06-18-2005 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar
:1orglaugh how could you not have?

Because it's a bot.

RRACY 06-18-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Actually, I haven't even read much about their core beliefs yet, just the very basics. I'm reading about how the Church operates and how it came into existence.

Just one of the bizarre things... early in the churches establishment it received tax-exempt status from the IRS. After a few years of being tax-exempt, the IRS took away their status due to obvious tax evasion and manipulation. The Church then went on to harass, steal from, bug, and sue the IRS over many many years. Finally in the early '90s the IRS grew fed up with the constant harassment and waste of resources that they cut a deal with the Church so that they again would receive tax-exempt status if they paid a sum of $12 million in back taxes.

Several key members of the Churches "military and intelligence branch", dubbed the Guardian's Office, were arrested in the early '80s for stealing records and sabotaging several United States government buildings across the country, I believe the operation was called "Operation Snow White". Hubbard was indicted but he disappeared and was never found until his death in '86.

I didn't know Elron Hubbard was dead?

crockett 06-18-2005 03:47 PM

I think it's all a ploy..I think they are pulling one over on us all.. It's probably some secret "tax shelter scam" and they just come up with this crazy off the wall shit, to throw off the IRS.

xxxdesign-net 06-18-2005 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
The Church demands that the members cease contact with non-members.


Well.. that one is obviously innaccurate.. John Travolta is a good friend of Jay Leno..for exemple..

colpanic 06-18-2005 03:49 PM

I live in downtown San Diego, and there is a big ass scientology church about 4 blocks from me :)

http://www.scientology-sandiego.org/

I've actually been considering going to their free seminar just to see what the crazy bastards are up to. :1orglaugh

C_U_Next_Tuesday 06-18-2005 05:02 PM

they are a cult. I worked in Austin right up the road from a major Scientology place. Those fucking weirdos would come get coffee at my shop every morning.

You could tell when they were in the process of brainwashing a new one. The older member would not leave their side..they orderd for them..talked for them.. showed them the way. I got pissed and tried to make the poor confused girl answer me with her own answer and not that of the brainwashed sheep by her side...they didnt not like that at all.

fuck those weirdos..they tried to even recruit me till i told them to "shut the fuck up"

GatorB 06-18-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RRACY
I didn't know Elron Hubbard was dead?

It's L Ron Hubbard.

Well you know when you reach 73 trillion years old you can go any day.

hottoddy 06-18-2005 07:56 PM

One of the most telling things about Scientology comes from L. Ron Hubbard himself. He once was interviewed in Reader's Digest. When asked about making a living as a science fiction writer, he replied, "If someone wanted to make real money in this world, they'd invent a religion." He and his contemporaries (Robert Heinlein for one) had experimented with this idea in some of their works (Stranger in a Strange Land). He created Scientology just to see if could get create such a religion. People will buy anything if it promises them perfect lives, right? It's the ultimate writers gag. He's laughing at us from the grave and his heirs are laughing all the way to the bank.

bigdog 06-18-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoddy
One of the most telling things about Scientology comes from L. Ron Hubbard himself. He once was interviewed in Reader's Digest. When asked about making a living as a science fiction writer, he replied, "If someone wanted to make real money in this world, they'd invent a religion." He and his contemporaries (Robert Heinlein for one) had experimented with this idea in some of their works (Stranger in a Strange Land). He created Scientology just to see if could get create such a religion. People will buy anything if it promises them perfect lives, right? It's the ultimate writers gag. He's laughing at us from the grave and his heirs are laughing all the way to the bank.

we should create our own porn religion and then pay no taxes on our web earnings

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-18-2005 10:27 PM

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Sly 06-18-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoddy
One of the most telling things about Scientology comes from L. Ron Hubbard himself. He once was interviewed in Reader's Digest. When asked about making a living as a science fiction writer, he replied, "If someone wanted to make real money in this world, they'd invent a religion." He and his contemporaries (Robert Heinlein for one) had experimented with this idea in some of their works (Stranger in a Strange Land). He created Scientology just to see if could get create such a religion. People will buy anything if it promises them perfect lives, right? It's the ultimate writers gag. He's laughing at us from the grave and his heirs are laughing all the way to the bank.

True, he originally created it to show that he could do it. But eventually his own system brainwashed him into believing his crazy teachings. The guy was nuts, several judges from several countries have stated so.


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