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IPK 06-15-2005 11:50 PM

Wtf is up with Scientology and Celebrities?
 
and what the hell do scientologists believe in? science?

KRL 06-15-2005 11:53 PM

Read L. Ron Hubbard's book.

http://www.scientology.org/

Scientology Aims:

A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology. ? L. Ron Hubbard

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy.

The fastest growing religious movement on earth, Scientology has become a firmly established and active force for positive change in the world in less than half a century. In a word, Scientology works.

And this is why millions of people the world over use its principles in their daily lives, why a growing number of people find such relevance in Scientology for themselves, their families, their organizations, their nations and this entire civilization.

There are more than 3,200 churches, missions and groups in 154 countries.

A maxim in Scientology is that only those things which one finds true for himself are true. In Scientology one learns to think for himself ? it is a voyage of self-discovery.

IPK 06-16-2005 12:01 AM

yeah but why is it so trendy among celebs

IPK 06-16-2005 12:02 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Scientologists

List of Scientologists
Kirstie Alley, actress
Anne Archer, actress
Jennifer Aspen, actress
Jason Beghe, actor
Catherine Bell, actress
Karen Nelson Bell, producer, director and musician
Karen Black, actress (later repudiated Scientology)
Sonny Bono, artist and congressman
William S. Burroughs, author, Beat Generation icon (later denounced Scientology)
David Campbell, musician
Nancy Cartwright, voiceover artist
Kate Ceberano, actress and musician
Erika Christensen, actress
Keith Code, racing instructor
Chick Corea, musician
Tom Cruise, actor
Dave Davies, musician
Xavier Deluc, actor
Jenna Elfman, actress, and her husband Bodhi, actor
Werner Erhard, ex-Scientologist who founded est
Michael Fairman, actor
Beck Hansen, (Beck) musician
Isaac Hayes, musician, actor
Nicky Hopkins, musician
L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology
Mark Isham, musician
Terry Jastrow, TV producer and director
Kimberley Kates, actress
Jason Lee, actor and professional skateboarder
Geoffrey Lewis, actor
Juliette Lewis, actress
Peggy Lipton, actress
Courtney Love, musician and widow of Kurt Cobain
Charles Manson, serial killer who joined Scientology in prison before starting his own cult
Christopher Masterson, actor
Danny Masterson, actor, older brother of Christopher Masterson
Lisa McPherson, died controversially while in the care of the Church of Scientology
Peter Medak, director
Van Morrison, singer, songwriter (later repudiated Scientology)
Floyd Mutrux, writer, director and producer
Haywood Nelson, actor
Judy Norton, actress and musician
Eduardo Palomo, actor, and his wife Carina, actress and musician
Jeff Pomerantz, actor
David Pomeranz, musician
Priscilla Presley, actress
Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis
Kelly Preston, actress and John Travolta's wife
Leah Remini, actress
Patrick Renna, actor
Giovanni Ribisi, actor
Marissa Ribisi, actress
Michael D. Roberts, actor
Mimi Rogers, actress
Carl-W. Röhrig, artist
Billy Sheehan, rock bassist
Megan Shields, physician and author
Michelle Stafford, actress
Sharon Stone, actress (reportedly (http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/c...ml#sharonstone) now a convert to Buddhism)
Patrick Swayze, actor
Greta Van Susteren, host of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on FOX TV
John Travolta, actor
Patrick Warren, musician
Edgar Winter, musician

BlueWire 06-16-2005 12:03 AM

too much money and time on their hands :thumbsup

smack 06-16-2005 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPK
yeah but why is it so trendy among celebs


because celebrities are sheep too.

GatorB 06-16-2005 12:15 AM

L. Ron Hubbard believed he was 73 TRILLION ,that's right TRILLION with a T, years old.

People who beleive in Scientology also don't believe in going tothe doctor. Kids have died because parents refused to get their kids help and thought PRAYING would help. Well I guess God( or whomever they worship )hated them.

xenigo 06-16-2005 12:19 AM

I read another post that said they get some kind of incredible tax break on purchases when they sign things such as cars over to the Church of Scientology.

Makes me wanna consider that religion. :) LOL

IPK 06-16-2005 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
L. Ron Hubbard believed he was 73 TRILLION ,that's right TRILLION with a T, years old.

People who beleive in Scientology also don't believe in going tothe doctor. Kids have died because parents refused to get their kids help and thought PRAYING would help. Well I guess God( or whomever they worship )hated them.

73 TRILLION? LOL!

I've heard of people living to 60 TRILLION but 73 TRILLION is just nonsense.

bhutocracy 06-16-2005 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire
too much money and time on their hands :thumbsup

yeah.. They experience the extremes of material fulfillment leading them to wonder about spiritual fulfillment. Also celebrities are treated very very well in scientology.. far differently than your average joe. John Travolta wouldn't exactly stick around if he was being treated like a lot of the rank and file.

Go to http://www.xenu.net/ if you want to find out how ridiculous and fucked up it is.

Vagisil 06-16-2005 01:22 AM

what a bunch of nuts.... to see some more wackoes check out:

http://www.heavensgate.com

ADL Colin 06-16-2005 01:25 AM

Are You full of Dead Space-Aliens?

The "Church" of Scientology* says you are. That is after you have handed over about $50,000 to them to reach this privileged secret level. They reveal to you that you are full of the souls of dead space aliens who were brought to Earth, 75 million years ago, by an evil galactic ruler named Xenu in an attempt to solve galactic overpopulation.

Trillions of aliens were supposedly frozen in a mixture of alcohol and glycol and flown across space, from neighboring solar systems, in DC-8 identical space-planes. They were then stacked around volcanoes on Earth and nuked with H-bombs, after which their souls clustered together and now infest our bodies as "body thetans"

$440 per hour to exorcise your dead space-aliens

The cost for ridding yourself of these "body thetans" is $440 per hour, according to a recent price-list. And since you are supposed to have about 2,500 of them then this could take a hundred hours or more. Another $50,000 or so to this insane cult that calls itself a "Church". After ridding themselves of these imaginary space-aliens, the deluded and out-of-pocket practitioners hope to gain supernatural powers. If not, they can always pay $1100 per hour for what is called the "L Rundowns". Another $100,000 or so to the cult, and still no supernatural powers, of course.

Who started this madness?

Scientology was the invention of L. Ron Hubbard, a pulp science-fiction writer who told his fellow authors that if a person wanted to get rich they should start their own religion. He did just that. He turned his puerile science-fiction fantasies into a religion and at last made the money he couldn't make from writing. A great deal of money, in fact. When he died, his fortune was estimated at around 400 million dollars. Scientology did not die with Hubbard, though. Others were quick to take over the leadership of this "Church" and its vast income.

Why do people get involved in it?

Almost nobody would get involved with Scientology if they knew what awaited them with regards to these dead space-alien "body thetans". People are sucked in through lies and deceit. Normally, it all starts with a 200 question personality test. This is then used to indicate flaws and failings in their character and they are pressured into doing a Dianetics* course to cure these failings. In this way, "Churches" of Scientology masquerade as a non-denominational group improving peoples minds and abilities in order to help create a better world. When the person attends their first course, however, they undergo a form of semi-hypnotic regression therapy called "auditing". This causes a temporary feeling of elation that seems to be addictive, since after that, some people will spend all the money they have or can borrow to buy more and increasingly expensive "auditing".

$360,000 for spiritual freedom

To do all the courses in Scientology and to receive all the auditing needed to reach a supposed higher spiritual level costs about $360,000. Some people have actually paid this amount, spending all their money, selling their cars and their homes, borrowing to the maximum extent possible, raiding their business finances and even cashing in trust funds left to their children to feed their addiction to this "auditing". They believe they will reach an exalted spiritual state where they can leave their bodies at will and create events just by intending them. By then, their minds are so deranged they will not think to check on the claims made by Hubbard himself about this state.

Hubbard goes to Venus

Hubbard once boasted that he had transported himself to the planet Venus -- where he was nearly run over by a freight locomotive. A made-up claim by critics, perhaps? No, you can actually hear him say it if you have a connection to the Internet and a soundcard. There is a soundfile of this at http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram . That Scientologists believe this, as well as other absurd claims of Hubbard's, must prove beyond doubt that they have been mentally damaged through their involvement with this cult.

If you can't afford Scientology?

If people don't have the $360,000 to spare to feed their addiction to Scientology "auditing" then they can always join staff. There they will be bullied by the cult and forced to work ever harder for an insulting $30 per week. While they are doing this they are pressured into doing courses costing tens of thousands of dollars. If they try to leave then they are expected to pay for these courses. They are financial prisoners -- slaves to the cult. They won't be given much in the way of the "auditing" they craved, though. But then there is always the elite corps of Scientology called the Sea Org where they sign a billion year contract and work for one hundred hours a week, again for $30 per week. Many young and idealistic people join this group because they are tricked into thinking that Scientology is helping to create a better world and that their help is needed. Again, they won't get much in the way of the "auditing" they crave. Children born into this organization (if they escape the cult's strict policy on aborting pregnancies) will be housed in appalling conditions, improperly cared for and fed until they are old enough to work for the cult for the same slave-like conditions.

Is your family safe?

If you think your family and loved ones are safe from this cult, then think again. The cult has front groups that conceal their connection to Scientology. They will enroll a person and only when they feel the person is hooked will they reveal the connection. This "Church" and its front groups have left a trail of lost fortunes and broken families in their wake. The trick they use when their spouse, partner or relations raise concern about their involvement in the cult is to convince the person that those trying to get them out of the cult are concealing crimes against them. They tell them that Scientology can make them more able and can find things out about other peoples crimes. So if their spouse or partner is critical of Scientology then they must be covering up their cheating on them or suchlike and don't want them to find out. This has caused many once happy families or relationships to break up. What you think is your happy relationship or stable marriage could one day be torn apart by this cult in a matter of minutes.

What you can do.

The first thing you could do is to show this flyer to your friends, family and loved ones to make sure they are aware of the danger from this cult. This is a public domain document so you are free to copy it without restriction. You can either make photocopies or you can download a fresh copy from the Internet. This flyer is located at www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/flyers/Scam.html where you can download a Word 6 copy in either US Letter or A4 format. There is a great deal of information about this cult on the Internet. Recommended critical sites are www.xenu.net and www.factnet.org . Protests against this dangerous cult take place on a frequent basis in various parts of the world. The newsgroup alt.religion.scientology will have information on these events. The more people who are involved in actively opposing this cult, the fewer lives will be ruined by it.

Sarah_Jayne 06-16-2005 03:32 AM

They are too rich to sell Amway so it is a natural alternative.

nico-t 06-16-2005 04:24 AM

why do people need religion so bad for? its fucking weak and unhealthy.

zentz 06-16-2005 04:28 AM

i dont know but i love the woman in your sig

MaDalton 06-16-2005 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Are You full of Dead Space-Aliens?

...

i second that, 100%

whoever thinks that this is a religion should be shot in the head as he has just proven his dumbness...

:2 cents:

BlueDesignStudios 06-16-2005 04:45 AM

aren't they banned in many countries & classified as a cult?

Nicky 06-16-2005 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPK
73 TRILLION? LOL!

I've heard of people living to 60 TRILLION but 73 TRILLION is just nonsense.

:1orglaugh

jimmyf 06-16-2005 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPK
yeah but why is it so trendy among celebs

has been for years, bunch of them in it...

WHY?? I have know ideal.

BRISK 06-16-2005 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
L. Ron Hubbard believed he was 73 TRILLION ,that's right TRILLION with a T, years old.

pfft....I'm 85 trillion years old, fucking punk kids think they know everything

:winkwink:

jimmyf 06-16-2005 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Are You full of Dead Space-Aliens?

The "Church" of Scientology* says you are. That is after you have handed over about $50,000 to them to reach this privileged secret level. They reveal to you that you are full of the souls of dead space aliens who were brought to Earth, 75 million years ago, by an evil galactic ruler named Xenu in an attempt to solve galactic overpopulation.

Trillions of aliens were supposedly frozen in a mixture of alcohol and glycol and flown across space, from neighboring solar systems, in DC-8 identical space-planes. They were then stacked around volcanoes on Earth and nuked with H-bombs, after which their souls clustered together and now infest our bodies as "body thetans"

$440 per hour to exorcise your dead space-aliens

The cost for ridding yourself of these "body thetans" is $440 per hour, according to a recent price-list. And since you are supposed to have about 2,500 of them then this could take a hundred hours or more. Another $50,000 or so to this insane cult that calls itself a "Church". After ridding themselves of these imaginary space-aliens, the deluded and out-of-pocket practitioners hope to gain supernatural powers. If not, they can always pay $1100 per hour for what is called the "L Rundowns". Another $100,000 or so to the cult, and still no supernatural powers, of course.

Who started this madness?

Scientology was the invention of L. Ron Hubbard, a pulp science-fiction writer who told his fellow authors that if a person wanted to get rich they should start their own religion. He did just that. He turned his puerile science-fiction fantasies into a religion and at last made the money he couldn't make from writing. A great deal of money, in fact. When he died, his fortune was estimated at around 400 million dollars. Scientology did not die with Hubbard, though. Others were quick to take over the leadership of this "Church" and its vast income.

Why do people get involved in it?

Almost nobody would get involved with Scientology if they knew what awaited them with regards to these dead space-alien "body thetans". People are sucked in through lies and deceit. Normally, it all starts with a 200 question personality test. This is then used to indicate flaws and failings in their character and they are pressured into doing a Dianetics* course to cure these failings. In this way, "Churches" of Scientology masquerade as a non-denominational group improving peoples minds and abilities in order to help create a better world. When the person attends their first course, however, they undergo a form of semi-hypnotic regression therapy called "auditing". This causes a temporary feeling of elation that seems to be addictive, since after that, some people will spend all the money they have or can borrow to buy more and increasingly expensive "auditing".

$360,000 for spiritual freedom

To do all the courses in Scientology and to receive all the auditing needed to reach a supposed higher spiritual level costs about $360,000. Some people have actually paid this amount, spending all their money, selling their cars and their homes, borrowing to the maximum extent possible, raiding their business finances and even cashing in trust funds left to their children to feed their addiction to this "auditing". They believe they will reach an exalted spiritual state where they can leave their bodies at will and create events just by intending them. By then, their minds are so deranged they will not think to check on the claims made by Hubbard himself about this state.

Hubbard goes to Venus

Hubbard once boasted that he had transported himself to the planet Venus -- where he was nearly run over by a freight locomotive. A made-up claim by critics, perhaps? No, you can actually hear him say it if you have a connection to the Internet and a soundcard. There is a soundfile of this at http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram . That Scientologists believe this, as well as other absurd claims of Hubbard's, must prove beyond doubt that they have been mentally damaged through their involvement with this cult.

If you can't afford Scientology?

If people don't have the $360,000 to spare to feed their addiction to Scientology "auditing" then they can always join staff. There they will be bullied by the cult and forced to work ever harder for an insulting $30 per week. While they are doing this they are pressured into doing courses costing tens of thousands of dollars. If they try to leave then they are expected to pay for these courses. They are financial prisoners -- slaves to the cult. They won't be given much in the way of the "auditing" they craved, though. But then there is always the elite corps of Scientology called the Sea Org where they sign a billion year contract and work for one hundred hours a week, again for $30 per week. Many young and idealistic people join this group because they are tricked into thinking that Scientology is helping to create a better world and that their help is needed. Again, they won't get much in the way of the "auditing" they crave. Children born into this organization (if they escape the cult's strict policy on aborting pregnancies) will be housed in appalling conditions, improperly cared for and fed until they are old enough to work for the cult for the same slave-like conditions.

Is your family safe?

If you think your family and loved ones are safe from this cult, then think again. The cult has front groups that conceal their connection to Scientology. They will enroll a person and only when they feel the person is hooked will they reveal the connection. This "Church" and its front groups have left a trail of lost fortunes and broken families in their wake. The trick they use when their spouse, partner or relations raise concern about their involvement in the cult is to convince the person that those trying to get them out of the cult are concealing crimes against them. They tell them that Scientology can make them more able and can find things out about other peoples crimes. So if their spouse or partner is critical of Scientology then they must be covering up their cheating on them or suchlike and don't want them to find out. This has caused many once happy families or relationships to break up. What you think is your happy relationship or stable marriage could one day be torn apart by this cult in a matter of minutes.

What you can do.

The first thing you could do is to show this flyer to your friends, family and loved ones to make sure they are aware of the danger from this cult. This is a public domain document so you are free to copy it without restriction. You can either make photocopies or you can download a fresh copy from the Internet. This flyer is located at www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/flyers/Scam.html where you can download a Word 6 copy in either US Letter or A4 format. There is a great deal of information about this cult on the Internet. Recommended critical sites are www.xenu.net and www.factnet.org . Protests against this dangerous cult take place on a frequent basis in various parts of the world. The newsgroup alt.religion.scientology will have information on these events. The more people who are involved in actively opposing this cult, the fewer lives will be ruined by it.

I got involved with some guy that was in Scientology, but didn't find out until I was into the project for about 10 or 15 K...

What a fucking mess, knew I was in trouble when he started telling me about his out of body experiences. :1orglaugh Shit he had started his business so he could give them more money.

It's all about the auditing :helpme ..

Mr Dickovitch 06-16-2005 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo
I read another post that said they get some kind of incredible tax break on purchases when they sign things such as cars over to the Church of Scientology.

Makes me wanna consider that religion. :) LOL

You can do that with any non-profit you retard.

DaddysGirl 06-16-2005 07:10 AM

I heard it was so popular with celebs cause of the tax breaks or something...

EviLGuY 06-16-2005 07:18 AM

It appeals to the average movie stars narcissim and stupidity. :)

candyflip 06-16-2005 07:21 AM

L. Ron Hubbard set up Scientology for one simple reason...to make money.

Check out Operation Clambake.

LittleSassy 06-16-2005 07:59 AM

scientology=end of the world...:1orglaugh

wjxxx 06-16-2005 08:22 AM

Celebrities are rich and dumb - that makes them the best victims for cheaters like Scientology Church

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-16-2005 08:24 AM

Celebs also dialed in with the Kabalah.

Bhelliom1980 06-16-2005 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Are You full of Dead Space-Aliens?


Why do people get involved in it?

Almost nobody would get involved with Scientology if they knew what awaited them with regards to these dead space-alien "body thetans". People are sucked in through lies and deceit. Normally, it all starts with a 200 question personality test. This is then used to indicate flaws and failings in their character and they are pressured into doing a Dianetics* course to cure these failings. In this way, "Churches" of Scientology masquerade as a non-denominational group improving peoples minds and abilities in order to help create a better world. When the person attends their first course, however, they undergo a form of semi-hypnotic regression therapy called "auditing". This causes a temporary feeling of elation that seems to be addictive, since after that, some people will spend all the money they have or can borrow to buy more and increasingly expensive "auditing".

The church uses many techniques that are common in cults. brainwashing is common. Many cults use these "personality tests" to tell you that you're lacking in some way to get you to go to the "retreats" where essentailly your body is thrown out of wack through poor nutrition sleep deprivation and other things. These sets you into an alpha state. which basically means you're hpnotized into believing whateverthey want yo uto believe. you can't leave becuase they use group tactics to stay ie"you'll be different if you leave. you don't wnt to be different do you?"

anyways just my two cents. its an interesting religion tobe sure. i'm very fasincated with following it amond others.

Bhelliom1980 06-16-2005 08:36 AM

as for celebs... they have the "must fit in" mindset more than most.. they need tobe accepted and that's waht cults... sorry churches... provide for them.

loverboy 06-16-2005 08:57 AM

Scientology is taking Holywood by storm

:smokin


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