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Nickless 06-12-2005 10:48 PM

Idea about turnkey single model sites
 
I'm thinking about setting up a content studio with a twist, where webmasters can get models 100% exclusive to do single model sites with, we provide let's say 20 pic/video sets a month for a flat rate. (for less $ than producing inhouse)

webmasters forget about dealing with models/photography/makeup/clothes, etc. all of the 'production' headaches and just gets the content uploaded, exclusive/guaranteed continuity under contract and 2257 complaint.

I believe this is something that absolutely has been done before in exclusivity deals with content producers, but i will provide just this kind of service (no loose sets)

How much $ is something attractive enough for people to use this service instead of shooting their own? any ideas/wishes? anyone interested? ;)

Sly 06-12-2005 10:53 PM

If the girl bails after 2 months will you be prepared to offer a refund?

sonofsam 06-12-2005 10:59 PM

why don't you just get a girl, shoot 2-3 years worth of content and then sell that as a package?

Nickless 06-12-2005 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
If the girl bails after 2 months will you be prepared to offer a refund?

Extremely unlikely because of the stupidly high unemployment rate in my country and how attractive the money we'll pay will be compared to normal jobs here, plus working little hours, it's too good to turn down, plus a written contract.

However it is possible and that's something that could happen to anyone, hiring models themselves or doing it this way, the only guarantee that we can offer is that we'll do whatever it takes to keep the model happy.

You don't ask for a refund at the pet shop if your puppy dies 3 months after you get it, shit just happens ;)

JD 06-12-2005 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
why don't you just get a girl, shoot 2-3 years worth of content and then sell that as a package?

wow! that's A LOT of shooting! how long do you think that would take/cost honestly

Nickless 06-12-2005 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
why don't you just get a girl, shoot 2-3 years worth of content and then sell that as a package?

Good idea if the client has the money that's an option we could offer, otherwise it will be like paying for that package in installments, which is good if you're just starting out or on a low budget.

KRL 06-12-2005 11:08 PM

Content production is a headache. I had my own studio for 2 years and it was nothing but constant crap to deal with.

So this sounds like a good idea, but be prepared for all the hassles involved.

NaughtyRob 06-12-2005 11:11 PM

I am doing the same thing. But I am not shooting it until a client says they want the girl.

NaughtyRob 06-12-2005 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
If the girl bails after 2 months will you be prepared to offer a refund?

Why would he need to do that? Shoot enough for a year or two, then who cares if she is gone.

Nickless 06-12-2005 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL
Content production is a headache. I had my own studio for 2 years and it was nothing but constant crap to deal with.

So this sounds like a good idea, but be prepared for all the hassles involved.

it can be a pain, i have 2 sites that i shoot myself (and spare photographer/assistant/models/webmaster time) so this could be a way to monetize it.

Nickless 06-12-2005 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ContentProducer
I am doing the same thing. But I am not shooting it until a client says they want the girl.

exactly, but doing casting shots all the time, so how much do you charge for something like this?

Nickless 06-13-2005 09:48 AM

anyone has any idea how much would be a fair price for a service like that?

After Shock Media 06-13-2005 09:51 AM

Not to knock ya, but not only do I agree with KRL I also think Mutt already does this. If I recall though Mutt handles a very large shoot order of a single girl and then delivers all the content you will need for a year or two.

bigdog 06-13-2005 10:03 AM

mutt does this service so does that guy named shooting manic i think

BossHawg 06-13-2005 10:48 AM

Nickless..Hit me up on ICQ at 197505728..I may be interested.

Alex 06-13-2005 10:57 AM

It isn't really turnkey.

Turnkey would be if you do everything. What you are doing is similar to a regular content provider.

Shooting_Manic 06-13-2005 11:26 AM

It being offered. Trust me. As for just getting 20 sets a month, you would be missing the point of offering such a service. 20 sets these days are even near enough to launch, plus, a quality single girl site should be updating 2 to 3 times a week, min. Serious clients would require at least 100-150 sets and hours of video to make it interesting for him. Plus, you stand the SERIOUS risk of a model flaking after the first 30 days. Teens are teen, regardless of there finanical situation. They will flake.

It's a huge undertaking. Also, considering where you live, it might be harder to find the type of mainstream models that would fit what that "typical" single site models look. While they are beautiful down there, most are more ethinic looking then what you can find in the states. Hense, a bit harder of a sell acrossed the board.

Dont even think about doing it unless you can deliver at least a years worth of content upfront. Stills and video.

Now, if you are looking to shoot, hit me up, I could use someone to shoot for me if you like. Or, if you want to talk in detail about this, hit me up on icq. Been doing this for some time now and currently have 8 full sites in production.

Nickless 06-13-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossHawg
Nickless..Hit me up on ICQ at 197505728..I may be interested.

sure, please add me: 53394478

Nickless 06-13-2005 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex
It isn't really turnkey.

Turnkey would be if you do everything. What you are doing is similar to a regular content provider.

correct, we could take care of design and backend etc. too, but on a case by case basis.

Nickless 06-13-2005 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
It being offered. Trust me. As for just getting 20 sets a month, you would be missing the point of offering such a service. 20 sets these days are even near enough to launch, plus, a quality single girl site should be updating 2 to 3 times a week, min. Serious clients would require at least 100-150 sets and hours of video to make it interesting for him. Plus, you stand the SERIOUS risk of a model flaking after the first 30 days. Teens are teen, regardless of there finanical situation. They will flake.

It's a huge undertaking. Also, considering where you live, it might be harder to find the type of mainstream models that would fit what that "typical" single site models look. While they are beautiful down there, most are more ethinic looking then what you can find in the states. Hense, a bit harder of a sell acrossed the board.

Dont even think about doing it unless you can deliver at least a years worth of content upfront. Stills and video.

Now, if you are looking to shoot, hit me up, I could use someone to shoot for me if you like. Or, if you want to talk in detail about this, hit me up on icq. Been doing this for some time now and currently have 8 full sites in production.

Thanks for the advice, very good points. :thumbsup

DutchTeenCash 06-13-2005 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickless
Extremely unlikely

lol youre a funny guy. Ask anyone here doing single sites bout girls who walk and theyll tell you they do. So far till today this month there are 4 big single model sites shut down as of that.

Get 2 yrs content and go from there. I wouldnt put a dime in any other plan.

Nickless 06-13-2005 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
lol youre a funny guy. Ask anyone here doing single sites bout girls who walk and theyll tell you they do. So far till today this month there are 4 big single model sites shut down as of that.

Get 2 yrs content and go from there. I wouldnt put a dime in any other plan.

Nah really, the difference IS big, the average salary here in argentina is USD 300/month, say we pay the model 1k/month, plus there aren't many work opportunities here, i have girls calling each week asking when they can start. Anyway if the client wants a year of content upfront why not?

DutchTeenCash 06-13-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickless
Nah really, the difference IS big, the average salary here in argentina is USD 300/month, say we pay the model 1k/month, plus there aren't many work opportunities here, i have girls calling each week asking when they can start. Anyway if the client wants a year of content upfront why not?

Ok, if you supply 2257 docs and at least 1 yr then things wouldnt be too bad. Still gotta think bout the niche though. Latin single model sites arent for everyone.

So correct me if im wrong but 1k a month meaning youll sell the girls pics exclusively but to many different clients? or just 1?

Oh and post a pic Im curious what kinda girls were talkin bout always interested since were into single model sites...

Nickless 06-13-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
Ok, if you supply 2257 docs and at least 1 yr then things wouldnt be too bad. Still gotta think bout the niche though. Latin single model sites arent for everyone.

So correct me if im wrong but 1k a month meaning youll sell the girls pics exclusively but to many different clients? or just 1?

Oh and post a pic Im curious what kinda girls were talkin bout always interested since were into single model sites...

i was thinking 2k total per 20 sets per month, around $100 per pic set and a short video of each, absolutely exclusive both the content AND model, sites i've produced: www.noeteen.com / www.karencandy.com (sold) will do 2 castings this week that are already semi-sold but could be available, one of the girls does have an ethnic look, the other is pretty much like sharon stone but younger :)

bigdog 06-13-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
lol youre a funny guy. Ask anyone here doing single sites bout girls who walk and theyll tell you they do. So far till today this month there are 4 big single model sites shut down as of that.

Get 2 yrs content and go from there. I wouldnt put a dime in any other plan.

what single girl sites have shut down?

DutchTeenCash 06-13-2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickless
i was thinking 2k total per 20 sets per month, around $100 per pic set and a short video of each, absolutely exclusive both the content AND model, sites i've produced: www.noeteen.com / www.karencandy.com (sold) will do 2 castings this week that are already semi-sold but could be available, one of the girls does have an ethnic look, the other is pretty much like sharon stone but younger :)

k thats not bad, noe is nice, if you have new teens id appreciate a pic bob AT thinkx DOT tv

thanks :thumbsup

DutchTeenCash 06-13-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
what single girl sites have shut down?

no dutchteencash sites weve got our content covered :thumbsup

...other single model sites

Nickless 06-13-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
k thats not bad, noe is nice, if you have new teens id appreciate a pic bob AT thinkx DOT tv

thanks :thumbsup

great thanks, late next week i might have something to show :thumbsup

Shooting_Manic 06-13-2005 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickless
i was thinking 2k total per 20 sets per month, around $100 per pic set and a short video of each, absolutely exclusive both the content AND model, sites i've produced: www.noeteen.com / www.karencandy.com (sold) will do 2 castings this week that are already semi-sold but could be available, one of the girls does have an ethnic look, the other is pretty much like sharon stone but younger :)

Then, all of us who do this to feed our families will hunt you down and cut your nuts off. You sell exclusive sets for any less then 400.00 a set in that quanity (20 sets) I will hunt you down myself. :)

Get some more info before you start throwing prices around. 400.00 per 100 image set is CHEAP when it comes to the "right" solo site girl. You will get that much if and only if the girl is hot, and you can even get more then that if shes something special. $100.00 per set isnt even a fair price for a butt ugly girl, sold as exclusive. Way to cheap.

Talk to some people that do this. If will be in your best interest and make you more money.

Nickless 06-13-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
Then, all of us who do this to feed our families will hunt you down and cut your nuts off. You sell exclusive sets for any less then 400.00 a set in that quanity (20 sets) I will hunt you down myself. :)

Get some more info before you start throwing prices around. 400.00 per 100 image set is CHEAP when it comes to the "right" solo site girl. You will get that much if and only if the girl is hot, and you can even get more then that if shes something special. $100.00 per set isnt even a fair price for a butt ugly girl, sold as exclusive. Way to cheap.

Talk to some people that do this. If will be in your best interest and make you more money.

lol ok relax, i had no idea about prices, anyway if your models are hot you don't need to worry about competition, i'll hit you up later tonight if that's ok.

Shooting_Manic 06-13-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickless
lol ok relax, i had no idea about prices, anyway if your models are hot you don't need to worry about competition, i'll hit you up later tonight if that's ok.


Hehe! Sure, hit me up. Naw, Im not worried at all, just giving you a heads up in a kind, gentle way. hehe!

Hit me up anytime!

:thumbsup


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