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marketsmart 06-06-2005 09:45 PM

2257 and webmaster harassment
 
does anyone see any potential for anti-porn harassment because site owners office/home address information will be so accessable?

what would be the impact if evn just one person stood outside your office or home all day with a sign saying "this person is a pornographer" and the local press decided to run a story in the local media.

does anyone think that may have been the stragey behind the new 2257

Harmon 06-06-2005 09:49 PM

No. 2257 is bullshit. No one believes me. They will crack down, but on the paysites, not the advertisers. I know this for only one reason... one of which I can NOT divulge. There are alterior motives... like drug dealing, they want the big fish - not the dimebag nigga stick up men :upsidedow

421Fill 06-06-2005 09:51 PM

how is someone picketing your business harassment? that's just free speech man. now, if he comes on your property or threatens you... but I do see your point, and your worries....

NTSS 06-06-2005 09:52 PM

I think there are more "...stick up men" in prison than "big fish"

Harmon 06-06-2005 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTSS
I think there are more "...stick up men" in prison than "big fish"

hence the :upsidedow

tradermcduck 06-06-2005 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTSS
I think there are more "...stick up men" in prison than "big fish"

true, but 2257 is just a hype trust me

V_RocKs 06-06-2005 11:09 PM

I have friends in high places telling me that we are all a bunch of Y2K idiots all over again...

They know what I do and they'd let me know if something was up...

That being said... Until today, for some weird reason, I wasn't to worried...

Then Choker informed me that my FSC membership will be purchased tomorrow (I resell traffic like a mother fucker on his network and he sent my membership in with the money I'd collected in my reseller account there). Now I am thinking, shit, if they get that injunction, SWEET! I was a union member once, kinda reminds me of that. Nice protection.

Choker thread on the subject -> http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...52#post7509752

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo
how is someone picketing your business harassment? that's just free speech man. now, if he comes on your property or threatens you... but I do see your point, and your worries....

If your business is run out of your home? If they call you ar home at all hours? If they post flyers telling everyone your are involved with CP? That's not harrasment.

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon
No. 2257 is bullshit. No one believes me. They will crack down, but on the paysites, not the advertisers. I know this for only one reason... one of which I can NOT divulge. There are alterior motives... like drug dealing, they want the big fish - not the dimebag nigga stick up men :upsidedow


Perhaps you didn.t read the first post. He's not talking about law enforcement. Now that it's YOUR name and YOUR adress that has to be on the 2257 page what if someone told a local anti-porn chruch group about your site? You don't think you will be harrassed what about your family?

Also if you like in say alabama and some local DA there gets info on your site you don't think they can't more easily get you for obscenity?

Harmon 06-06-2005 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If your business is run out of your home? If they call you ar home at all hours? If they post flyers telling everyone your are involved with CP? That's not harrasment.

Post flyers that I am involved in CP? I will own your ass... and your kids ass... and their kids asses :2 cents:

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon
Post flyers that I am involved in CP? I will own your ass... and your kids ass... and their kids asses :2 cents:

Maybe but that's AFTER the damage is done. Which is all these people care about.

Rawz 06-06-2005 11:32 PM

Get a cheap office or hire a local company to keep and file your docs . problem solved . No freaks at your door no christians protesting, no hot surfer chicks coming over for a booty call cuz she digs your porn site .....
Do I have a problem with the law, fuck yeah but my home addy isn't going on the net for damn sure .

Rictor 06-06-2005 11:32 PM

I live in a private community with private roads. If you don't live here, you'd have to picket outside the gate a block from my house.

bringer 06-06-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawz
Get a cheap office or hire a local company to keep and file your docs . problem solved . No freaks at your door no christians protesting, no hot surfer chicks coming over for a booty call cuz she digs your porn site .....
Do I have a problem with the law, fuck yeah but my home addy isn't going on the net for damn sure .

dont the docs have to be at your primany biz location? dont think you can store them in a shed behind staples

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawz
Get a cheap office or hire a local company to keep and file your docs . problem solved . No freaks at your door no christians protesting, no hot surfer chicks coming over for a booty call cuz she digs your porn site .....
Do I have a problem with the law, fuck yeah but my home addy isn't going on the net for damn sure .

A) Your NAME still has to be listed on the 2257 page

B) The address list has to be your PRIMARY place of business where you do work at least 20 hours a week. So if you work out of your home you have to lsit that. Even if you have an office you think Jesus freaks can find out where you live?

C) 3rd party record keepers are PROHIBITED. You DID reads the reg didn't you?

V_RocKs 06-06-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Perhaps you didn.t read the first post. He's not talking about law enforcement. Now that it's YOUR name and YOUR adress that has to be on the 2257 page what if someone told a local anti-porn chruch group about your site? You don't think you will be harrassed what about your family?

Also if you like in say alabama and some local DA there gets info on your site you don't think they can't more easily get you for obscenity?

DON'T WHOIS ME BITCH!

You can find it all in there already!

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
DON'T WHOIS ME BITCH!

You can find it all in there already!

Ummmmm DAs in Alabama are NOT going to go to EVERY website to do a whois. But if it is brought to their attention that John Doe from Backwoods, Alabama has a porn website they may decide to go after you.

V_RocKs 06-06-2005 11:47 PM

Right, and Jesus freaks would have found me by now too...

GatorB 06-06-2005 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Right, and Jesus freaks would have found me by now too...

How? If you never had a 2257 page before?

riddler 06-07-2005 12:41 AM

Woot, GatorB to the rescue of another 2257 thread!

V_RocKs 06-07-2005 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
How? If you never had a 2257 page before?

http://www.whois.sc/8t33n.com

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bhutocracy 06-07-2005 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rictor
I live in a private community with private roads. If you don't live here, you'd have to picket outside the gate a block from my house.

heheh :)

GatorB 06-07-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

OK listen a whois is NOT a 2257 page. How many NON webmasters know what a fucking whois is? I can go ask 1000 people in my town what a whois is and 99.5% wouldn't have a fricken clue. Now some jesus freaks start goignto websites on the 23 and lol and behold they see 2257 links. thye click those links and then BAM name and adress of evil pornographer. If you think that Jesus freak groups won't use this then you are crazy. Hell they listed the name and addresses of abortion doctors then encourage people to shoot them.

GatorB 06-07-2005 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rictor
I live in a private community with private roads. If you don't live here, you'd have to picket outside the gate a block from my house.

Ok so when your private community finds out how long before you are kicked out?

taibo 06-07-2005 01:17 AM

yet another thread

421Fill 06-07-2005 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If your business is run out of your home? If they call you ar home at all hours? If they post flyers telling everyone your are involved with CP? That's not harrasment.

a. it is one's own choice to work from home... could get an office. that applies to both your first points...

b. you never mentioned posting flyers accusing you of cp in your first post. That would be harrassment for sure, and could be found as libel in court, too.


picketing, announcing that you are a pornographer isn't harrassment imo.


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