Wrong Is Wrong And This Is Just Wrong (And they mindless sheep will accept it)
 

In one case, a guard's urine splashed onto a detainee and his Quran. Southern Command said a guard urinated near an air vent and "the wind blew his urine through the vent" and onto a detainee and his Quran.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8098818/

This is how they explain abuse complaints

they should pee directly on the detainee :winkwink:

And onto the Quaran.

And when brown people attack

"Oh my goodness, why do these people hate us?"
"Why do they burn the American flag?"
"Why do they shoot at our troops who have come to liberate them by instituting a regime change, knocking out their power for months, destroying their cities infrastructure, killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process"

It's HYPOCRISY

American flags have been burning for many years...jealousy is evil :2 cents:

Treating them nice doesn't change their minds nor ease their hatred of the west.

It's been tried, we are infidels no matter what we do or don't do.

Maybe they should have shot the detainee first, the pissed on him.

What they don't have toilets for our boys in Cuba? Damn that Bush. How dare he give Gitmo so little funding that our soldiers have to pee in air vents.

So why did we bother treating Japanese and German POWs 100X better than they treated ours? Didn't help our guys. Perhaps we should have just shot them on site.

:1orglaugh

"I need to piss Sir, so I went to the top of that hill and unfortunately the wind was blowing in the wrong direction and it dumped on the Commanding Officers dining room table and fucked his meal"

That has as much credibility as the shit spewed over excuses at Gitmo.

The fact is several international organizations have already issued detailed reports and their findings are otherwise.

Comments from internal inquiries mean shit. These are the defensive excuses.

Hmm.... well, I suppose the answer to that is that the Japanese culture and their religion has held no inherant hatred of the west like that of the middle easterners have. Now, of course I'm not talking about everyone over there, but the extremists of their kind have truly held on and nurtured a severe hatred of all non-muslims for a long long time now.

That's a significant difference right there.


Obviously my comment was more for show than anything, you do realize that, right? :D

US prisoners should always be treated humanely, that's the example this side of the ocean needs to set for the world.

that anyone would react and it be acceptable like you mention over pissing on a religous book is absurd and fucking barbaric.


hypocrisy is sunni and shiite muslims killing each other and most muslims groups dont like each other.

But Muslims around the world agree on one thing: They all despise Israel and the Jews.

shouldnt be pissin on ppl's beliefs

but we got the bombs so w/e....

That is ashame, because everyone knows that if your going to defile a holy book, you have to save up a nice poop... Piss is for defiling flags and such...:pimp

Bottom line to all of this crap is .... why are there 500 plus individuals being detained in a concentration camp for over three years by a nation that proclaims values of freedoms, righteousness and rights to fair trials?

Is there some problem getting the legal team together? Is the judge sick?

Or is it too brain-taxing to formulate actual charges? It's the same DOJ that created 2257 - what ya expect?

Trust me durring WWII the Japs hated the US. And they treated our POW like crap. We treated theirs much better. Same goes for the Germans who got even better treatment than the Japs.

My point is that if maerica is goingto come off as a country that say "We are this" and "We are that and therefor we are better than you" then let's not be hypocritical about it. You've got to back it up. I can't tell you that hitting your child is wrong then go and smack mine around.

this doesnt help matters much either

the Koran, states that the Jews are "swine" and that God turned some of the Jews into monkeys. This is taught in mosques and Islamic schools around the world.

"mindless sheep" <-- says the christian lol


ok, who are mindless sheep? people who are religious or those who don't identify with a religion? those who are religious are actually "followers" or "mindless" because they've never actually THOUGHT about what they believe in. they just follow for whatever personal reason they NEED to believe or because they've been raised that way. because if you actually THOUGHT about some of the FANTASTICAL shit that's in those books, who the fuck would believe it in the first place? some of the stories in there aren't even plausible let alone BELIEVABLE. :2 cents:


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Mindless? :-) Sounds like you for a start for coming out with such general dribble and having the arrogance to make assumptions on anyones beliefs.

Clearly you are on the "right side" :1orglaugh

Why do they even give the prisoners Qurans?

are you fucking crazy?

during WWII those fucking japs were chopping off american heads like it was pineapple harvest season.

they hated us big time and torture was their middle name.

in fact most have agreed the japanese were more brutal than the germans in regards to pow treatment and war crimes..

In japan they revise that part of their history in the schools and society. when many japanese visit or come to school the US they get blown away by what their country did.

That's just wrong.

sorry those are 500 fucking TERRORISTS

and when you step over an accepted way of warfare you no longer qualify for any rights under any law.

Because we pissed on some religous books, mistreated and beat up some TERRORISTS were the bad guy?

fuck you and fuck them

this pales in comparison to their ideologies and actions.

yes we should keep up a standard but sometimes it falls short.

Show me the part of the Koran that says that. Just because it's taught doesn't mean it in there. For example Christian kids are taught the Moses parted the RED Sea. Which he didn't. I'm not debating the parting part. The part that I'm talking about the RED Sea part. There was a mistranslation from the Hebrew to Greek( or the Greek to latin not sure on that point ) and it was orginally was REED Sea, not RED. The REED Sea or "Sea of Reeds" was actually a small shallow lake about maybe less than 12 feet deep at it deepest. Still quite a feet if Moses did it, but still not anywher close to being the RED Sea.

nA dif we had Americans that weere Christians that were POWs and they denied them Bibles that's be OK with you?

Twat. Death to Islam.

So our soldier that get caught should not have any rights? Since they accepted the way of warfare?

How about DEATH ot ALL religions because they are ALL full of crap that gives people excuses to hate and kill each other in the name of "My god is better than yours. And my god hates you.". ALL your gods are fucked and FAKE. Get over it.

oh yeah baby.... turn that water in2 wine for me... burn dat bush without actually burnin it... part those seas with a flick of yer wrist... after you die, come back & save me from the "sins" of man. like i said, FANTASTICAL shit. clearly, u r 1 of the mindless followers who lack the ability to think & simply get heated when someone questions this dumb shit. :thumbsup



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its getting hot in here

Yea.. that's what I thought - standards of conduct change with the wind.

Don't whine when some assholes change their rules of conduct.

If you need a theological debate on religion - this might be better on a seperate thread? It might need it :-)

ah i was waiting for someone to pick up on this, there was a story about it on the news, it comes up often.

its the same exact thing as the example you wrote about moses .


interpretation and application for your means can be a mothefucker.

the interpreted verse is basically these two

"Say: 'Shall I tell you who will receive a worse reward from God? Those whom God has cursed and with whom He has been angry, transforming them into apes and swine, and those who serve the devil. Worse is the plight of these, and they have strayed far from the right path.'"

"Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah ? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road."

:1orglaugh that'll b 1 of the longest threads.... don't even know if i want start a shirt storm like that.



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KORAN

8char

The news often fucks up and get crap wrong often just for ratings


Doesn't mention jews. Bible mentions about "people" that don't follow him and his words being this or that or will receive this punishment or that punishment. I guess one could "interpret" that to mean Muslims.

Qon I'm not a christian
OWNED

Those adoption papers are coming in the mail soon, you have just been SONNED

I still have respect for you as a great business man and a pioneer in this business though, even though I feel you don't share respect for me

Ouch!

8char

:eek7 dude who knows WHAT the fuck you are? u change every 3 months... u don't own anything but mental problems. work that shit out then come back & attempt to discuss something me. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



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accepted way of warfare
that's an oxymoron

so basically it was supposed to go down like this

We will invest millions in state of the art laser precision guided missiles
Armored Tanks and vehicles to your country and you must fight us to the best of your abilities out in the open and use traditional fighting techniques

anyone can interpret that any way they want. :1orglaugh

no religious book mentions any religious group or enemy by name yet people interpret them as they do.

and in the talmud/torah it says the jews are gods chosen people.

Qon you are a poor (spiritually) misguided soul
I pray will pray for you my brother
There is much more to life than denying God
and having sex with prostitutes in foriegn countries

I wish I could awaken you to the knowledge of the truth
but I will just pray for you because I know that is the best way to help you

Please protect yourself over there
Where a condom if you feel you "must" have sex with those women

Even though you have nothing but insults for me, it would deeply
sadden me if you were to contract HIV over there seeking to fufill an emptiness inside you buy building a world set upon lust and false "good feelings" and negative "fun"

actually the word Jew was not mentioned
The word Hebrew was

Jew was added later to apply a certain specific people

I guess Newsweek should waited before retracting lol

i know. when i typed that i thought the exact same thing.

I also think that they should have fair trials and when the trial ends...for those that are found to be members of al Qaida...put them in front of a firing squad...and for those that were mere Taliban "soldiers"...imprison them until the Taliban fighters are 100% eliminated.

forgive me for the typo

if your a religious guy why are you here? :1orglaugh

I feel everyman should be entitled to a fair trial..
If you know the USA legal system you know for a fact innocent people have been convicted of crimes and held for years in prisons.

With that being said, I feel that there is at least 1, innocent person being held by the US military, and by having no form of trials, their fair and just release is impossible

Now to take that one step further, mental abuse and trying to break men's spiritual bodies by a country that claims to be land of the free and home of the brave...

Something just doesn't seem right about this...

If I hand you a glass an empty glass that I just drank kool-aid out of did I give you any kool-aid?

Or did I give you an empty container and lie to you about what I was giving you.

America something is wrong you have accepted the empty glass for too long.

*studio audience applauds*

I am a man of circumstance
I live in America
I am a man of African heritage
I will not give you the history that you already know of how I came to be in this great nation

I feel into this business at an early age as an alternative of playing the man's cat and mouse game of drug dealing

Alcohol
and
Tobacco

Kill hundreds of thousands of american's each year, but they are celebrated products, we even have ballparks named after Alcohol companies "Coors Field"

I don't try to call my affiliation with the adult entertainment business holy, but I can say that there are some things I simply will not promote because I don't see them as being natural (gay/lesbian/tranny) even though they are "legal"

Now if that is what you are into, that is your personal business, and I have no right to tell you that you are wrong if you are not HARMING or OPPRESSING anyone with your sexual preferences.

I'm simply a young man looking for a great opportunity in the mainstream, but who started his foundation with money that was generated from the adult entertainment industry.

I will not crucify myself or be deceived that God does not have a greater plan for me or Love me because of a few decisions that I know in my heart have not affected the WHOLE of me

I lead a clean lifestyle
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I do not cuss out my fellow brothers and sisters
I abstain from sexual activity
I love god and realize that God is greater than this entire world
and that without God I am nothing, because God is my creator loves me greater than I could love myself.
I wake up each day and attempt to treat every person and animal with kindness

I'm a man in transition