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Zester 06-03-2005 09:13 AM

SEO 302 question
 
I have a link dump with about 1500 out going links.
following my friend who advised me a bit about SEO and how much I should lessen outgoing links to PR 0 page I am using a certain "jump" page as a redirection, something like:
http://mydomain.com/jump.php?url=http://otherdomain.com/page.html

this is the jump.php
Code:

$url=$_REQUEST["url"];
header("HTTP/1.0 302 bounce");
header("Location: $url");
header("Connection: close");

will this get me into trouble with google? lower my PR?

here is some good info for ya on the subject (someone may find this interesting as I did):
http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm

Trax 06-03-2005 09:22 AM

it will affect http://otherdomain.com/page.htm not mydomain.com
302 redirects suck

Terry 06-03-2005 09:23 AM

Ggrrrrrrrr 302 !!!!

Zester 06-03-2005 09:29 AM

hmmmm..... ok... 302 is not good... didn't mean to fuck anybody....
if I change all the out links in my link dump from 302 to 301, will that not kill my SERP ? 1500 out going links to zero page ranked pages?

Kevsh 06-03-2005 10:32 AM

Why not just use the PHP to redirect (w/o writing the 302 portion of the header)? That way, any PR leak will come from the actual PHP script, not the original page the link is on.

Code:

$url=$_REQUEST["url"];
header("Location: $url");


FilthyRob 06-03-2005 10:35 AM

I use a 302 redirect in a php script

alias 06-03-2005 10:37 AM

can you 0 iframe the redirect and or nofollow it in robots.
?

swedguy 06-03-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
Why not just use the PHP to redirect (w/o writing the 302 portion of the header)? That way, any PR leak will come from the actual PHP script, not the original page the link is on.

Code:

$url=$_REQUEST["url"];
header("Location: $url");


That is a 302 redirect.

fireorange 06-03-2005 10:45 AM

Stop wasting your time, stick to gallery submitting.

swedguy 06-03-2005 10:53 AM

To be honest, I don't really understand why 302 is so bad. 99% of all scripts or sites that has some type of redirect, uses 302. To the regular Joe, he have no clue what the difference is between 301 and 302, the only thing he knows is that he want the surfer to go from A to B.

Are Search Engines out to fuck people over or do they actually have common sense? I know what I think.

I even had 20-25 single keywords as #1 for a long time and Google had the 302 page listed (it just redirected to a page within the same folder).
I have a whole bunch of other legit examples where 302 has been used, without any problems.

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&...rn&btnG=Search
Pichunter is #1 for free porn.

How many 302 redirects do you think he has pointing to him? LOTS. All the trade scripts are 302 redirects. Do you think he would be #1 if 302's are so bad?

fireorange 06-03-2005 10:57 AM

It's all about META TAGS baby

Zester 06-03-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
That is a 302 redirect.

some info I read (mentioned here already):
1) any redirection like:
header (location: something);

gives a 302 unless specified otherwise

2) most trading scripts today use 302

TheJimmy 06-03-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireorange
It's all about META TAGS baby

yes, this is true, it's ALLLLLLL about the meta tags...

I'm glad to see some people are catching on...


:thumbsup :thumbsup

Zester 06-03-2005 11:41 AM

here are my questions (more accurately) again in case someone actually would like to answer them:

1) will a site (site 1) using a 302 to link to another site (site 2) be harmed in any way SEO speaking? (PR penalty, google ban etc.)

2) will a link from a certain site (site 1) to another (site 2) using 302 method (e.g: http://site1.com/jump.php?url=site2 be counted as a backlink to site2 ?

3) will a link from a certain site (site 1) to another (site 2) using 301 method (e.g: http://site1.com/jump.php?url=site2 be counted as a backlink to site2 ?

monkeysnap 06-03-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zester
some info I read (mentioned here already):
1) any redirection like:
header (location: something);

gives a 302 unless specified otherwise

2) most trading scripts today use 302

In the scripts I code for my sites I use the following:

header("Refresh: 0; URL=http://blahblahblah");

That prevents a 302.


.

cambaby 06-03-2005 12:52 PM

Yes it will get you in trouble

fireorange 06-03-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zester
here are my questions (more accurately) again in case someone actually would like to answer them:

1) will a site (site 1) using a 302 to link to another site (site 2) be harmed in any way SEO speaking? (PR penalty, google ban etc.)

2) will a link from a certain site (site 1) to another (site 2) using 302 method (e.g: http://site1.com/jump.php?url=site2 be counted as a backlink to site2 ?

3) will a link from a certain site (site 1) to another (site 2) using 301 method (e.g: http://site1.com/jump.php?url=site2 be counted as a backlink to site2 ?

1) META TAGS
2) Google Priority ID
3) There's no money in SEO

Hope that helps.

Zester 06-04-2005 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeysnap
In the scripts I code for my sites I use the following:

header("Refresh: 0; URL=http://blahblahblah");

That prevents a 302.


.

isn't that the same as redirection?
i think the result in that case is a 302 as well

xenigo 06-04-2005 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy
yes, this is true, it's ALLLLLLL about the meta tags...

I'm glad to see some people are catching on...


:thumbsup :thumbsup

Last time I checked, it's all about content. Better go re-read your SEO handbook.

Zester 06-04-2005 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo
Last time I checked, it's all about content. Better go re-read your SEO handbook.

i think he was joking, meta tags are ignored by most search engines today

swedguy 06-04-2005 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zester
isn't that the same as redirection?
i think the result in that case is a 302 as well

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:25:13 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) PHP/4.3.6
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.6
Refresh: 0; URL=http://blahblahblah
Content-Type: text/html


Never seen that way before.

Zester 06-04-2005 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:25:13 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) PHP/4.3.6
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.6
Refresh: 0; URL=http://blahblahblah
Content-Type: text/html


Never seen that way before.

this is getting interesting
now the quesiton is how will google see this? is this a backlink to "http://blahblahblah" ? there is no hijack here is there?

Zester 06-04-2005 12:10 PM

bump.................


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