Should a serial killer be set free??
 

I ask this question b/c Karla Homolka is going to be released very soon after serving a 12 year sentence for the manslaughter deaths of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy..she's having a hearing today on whether her movments should be restricted..

"Homolka is expected to call at least two witnesses in her defence, including Dr. Louis Morissette, a Montreal psychiatrist, who has said he believes the convicted killer is at low risk to kill again.

It is unclear when Judge Jean Beaulieu will issue his decision.

The topic of Homolka's new love interest is also expected to come up at today's hearing. The Toronto Sun reports that Homolka is still romantically involved with a convicted killer, Jean-Paul Gerbet, whom she met in a prison library.

Gerbet is serving a life sentence for murdering his girlfriend when she tried to leave him. He could get out on parole in 2008.

Tim Danson, the Toronto lawyer who represents the French and Mahaffy families, says the romance is one of the factors that is behind the 810 application.

"She is attracted like a magnet to people like this is the point we're trying to make,'' he told the Sun.

A number of violent offenders, including convicted pedophile Wray Budreo and sex offender Martin Ferrier, have been the subjects of Sec. 810 orders.

But any order against Homolka could only stand for 12 months, giving rise to questions about whether the courts would try to continue renewing the orders.

Williams doesn't believe the restrictions would affect Homolka much.

"In the 12 months, if she's under these minor restrictions, she will adhere to it because that's the kind of person she is. And then in 12 months, she will disappear"


WTF??? I don't get it...12 years for 2 horrendous murders and she walks away just like that??? I don't think so..

This case hits very close to home as I grew up in St.Catharines where the murders took place and I knew Kristen French and the Homolka's..not going to get into this one too much.. :disgust

Discuss:

the article can be read here..:Homolka article

12 years does seem light...but I'm trying to figure out how she's a serial and she was charged with "manslaughter."

In America manslaughter usually implies death due to negligence, or while committing an illegal act like driving under the influence.

IMO no she should be in jail for the rest of her life.

She better not think she can ever step foot in St. Catharines again. Its my hometown, Kristin French was a classmate of my brother. The people there will never forget what happened. She is a psychopathic killer, she killed her own sister for gods sake. She should be rotting in prison for the rest of her life like Bernardo.

Murders

On October 17, 1987 Homolka, then 17 met Bernardo who was 23, at a hotel restaurant. Their relationship quickly became sexual in nature. They would maintain a relationship until 1994 when Homolka divorced Bernardo and began testifying against him. At the time of their meeting, Bernardo had already raped several girls in Scarborough, a Toronto suburb, but he had not been found out. On December 23, 1990, Homolka stole the animal anesthetic, Halothane, from the veterinary clinic where she worked. Together she and Bernardo administered it to her fifteen-year-old sister Tammy Lyn Homolka along with a mixture of alcohol and halcion. They raped Tammy in the basement of the Homolka family's home while she was unconcious. The official cause of death was attributed to the girl having choked to death on her own vomit. Tammy's death was, at the time, ruled an accident.

After getting engaged to Bernardo, Karla Homolka and her fiancé rented a bungalow in the quiet suburb of Port Dalhousie. On June 15, 1991 Paul Bernardo, while stealing license plates to aid in his Cigarette Smuggling scheme ran into Leslie Erin Mahaffy who had been locked out of her home. The two spoke for some time and went back to Paul's car for a cigarette. At that point 14-year old Leslie Mahaffy was abducted. Paul Bernardo brought her to their home where they held the girl hostage for several days, sexually assaulting her repeatedly. This, they recorded on video tape including one scene where Homolka pretties herself for the camera before raping the girl. Eventually, they killed Mahaffy, and Paul Bernardo cut up her body with a circular saw. On June 29, a couple canoeing on a lake at the edge of the city of St. Catharines found parts of Mahaffy's body in shallow water, encased in cement. On the same day that the girl's body was found, Karla Homolka was married in a lavish ceremony, resplendent in an all-white wedding dress and riding with her husband in a horse-drawn carriage at Niagara-on-the-Lake.

On April 16, 1992, Paul and Karla drove into a church parking lot. Karla stepped out of the car with a map pretending to be lost and asking for help from 15-year-old Kristen Dawn French. Paul approached from behind and used a knife to force Kristen into the car. A piece of the map, one of Kristen's shoes and some of Kristen's hair were all later found at the crime scene. Paul Bernardo forced the girl into the backseat floor of the car at knifepoint. They brought French to their home where for several days they sexually assaulted, abused, and tortured her. They killed her just before going to Easter Sunday dinner at Homolka's parents' home. On April 30, the body of Kristen French was found in a ditch in the city of Burlington, Ontario.

It is almost absolutely certain that Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka had other victims -- more likely rape victims and not murder victims. During the initial search of the Bernardo home a Hawaiian newspaper article was found which outlined the rape of a local that occurred when Paul and Karla were honeymooning in Hawaii. The fact that they had cut out this article, that the rape itself followed Paul's Modus Operandi and that it occurred when the Bernardos were vacationing in Hawaii have all led people to speculate that it may be related. It is, however, somewhat pointless for the United States to attempt to extradite Paul Bernardo at this point, since he is likely never to be released from prison in Canada.

Some people, including the defense attorneys for Robert Baltovich, think that Elizabeth Bain, a 22 year old female in the Scarborough area of Toronto was abducted and murdered by Paul Bernardo in 1990. Witnesses testified about seeing Bain with a blond man in the days before she vanished. There are numerous other links between Bernardo and Bain, but a Canadian publication ban stands in the way of much of the information getting into the public domain. Regardless, on December 2nd, 2004 the Ontario Court of Appeals set aside Baltovich's conviction and ordered a new trial given some of this evidence. In 1998, author Derek Finkle published the book No Claim to Mercy where details tying Bain to Bernardo were presented.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka

lif will not be easy on the outside....i suspect she will be the target of some hometown justice

The manslaughter charge was because of the 'deal with the devil' which guaranteed her testimony against Paul Bernardo.

Thanks NoCarrier...why would they charge her with only "manslaughter" then?
I would wager he was charged with murder.

ok so the story goes..

Karla and her husband abducted 2 girls tortured and dismembered their bodies and then dumped them.. one they put in concrete blocks and dumped it in the lake...the other they found in pieces on the side of the road..

SHE testifed against her husband and was charged with manslaughter to get off easy..

on another note... she also "gave" her 15 y/o sister to her husband as a CHRISTMAS GIFT which caused her to die...

and he turned out to be a serial rapist as well... :mad:

Odie, I think she should be sent somewhere in the Antartic quite frankly. What was being said by her cell mates and friends in jail was that she's doesn't feel regret for what she's done. Quite frankly, since she's planning on staying in Montreal, I'd feel safer if they'd install a GPS tracking system in her heart - this way she won't try to remove it and they'll know for sure where the hell she's at. The guy she's apparently involved with is just as psycho if not more - what a fine bunch of kids they'll breed :(

I don't want her here - she should stay in jail in my opinion - for life - not 12 years, not 25 years - life, as in - until she dies!

Damn eros, I wanted to show you the following quotes.

Eventually, Karla and Paul were arrested. Karla presented herself as the abused victim, and a plea-bargain was reached in exchange for her testimony against her husband that gave her a twelve-year prison sentence for two counts of manslaughter. After the plea-bargain had been confirmed, and Karla had begun her sentence, the videotapes were discovered, and the full extent of her involvement and participation was revealed; however, the plea-bargain protected Homolka from further prosecution. A court order exhumed her sister Tammy's body and Paul Bernardo was tried and convicted in the girl's murder.

The extent of Homolka's involvement in the murders has been controversial. Some believe that she was simply a victim of Bernardo, while others have noted that Bernardo -- who has also been subsequently convicted in a number of rape cases -- never killed his known victims when Homolka was not directly involved in the abduction. Recent evidence has indicated that perhaps Paul Bernardo had killed at least one victim previous to Homolka's involvement. This remains to be completely determined, but it appears that Robert Baltovich may have been wrongly convicted of the murder of Elizabeth Bain -- a victim that some feel was Paul Bernardo's first.

yup thanks NoCarrier :)

how about 20 years ...

She also provided all the video taped proof of what they did - which was a guarantee that they'd get her husband. She's definitely getting off too light. She should rot in prison for her lifetime. How sick can you be if you 'offer' your own flesh and blood kid sister to your husband? There is no way to justify that - she needs to stay in prison.

Edit :: I stand corrected - I thought she provided the videotapes as part of her plea bargain - which makes this more of a double-edged sword. Find a loophole and keep her in!

I have put this ordeal behind me since it affected me immensely at the time of the disappearances and then finding out it was someone that I knew and trusted..but this just eats me up knowing that she inflicted so much pain on the victims and the families and the community that I think letting her out would not be in her best interests :warning

Something about her always made me think she was more involved in the killing part of it them him, she came off as the victim but I think it was more jealous of the women he liked to rape that she wanted them dead. Just a weird feeling I had about her.

But I think she should get life in prison, the girls can't continue to live their lives why should she? :2 cents:

Smurfette

I was thinking the same thing...we'll never know...but in the videos, SHE does a lot of the torturing..which makes me sick!

No remorse for what she did at all..someone needs to pull her fingernails out one by one and then her teeth one by one..and then her limbs one by one..see how she likes it... :mad:

Odie, hit me up on ICQ 284114006, im from st kitts too.

steve

now that's scary...lol.. :warning

a serial killer is not to be set free

she should get a life sentence...

I think Homolka is a sociopath and we're definitely not seeing the last of her. You can see how twisted she is when you look at her dead eyes. A very scary lady...

I think the only thing that's going to keep her in check is media attention. If they keep the heat on her, track her movements, she'll be less likely to be found in a situation where she's free to hurt others.

There was a recent photo in the paper last week where she's posing with her parents at the jail. HOW can they forgive her for what she did to their other daughter? That's fucked up.

She's still very dangerous.

No

And i think when they do have that meeting today she should have MAJOR restrictions placed on her.

Either that... or someone should put a bullet in her head minutes after she gets out.

Being from burlington I have very strong feelings on this issue... my family was on the search team for leslie mahaffy... and we knew some of the family. I think both of them should be locked up for life.... have the death penatly reinstated just for them... or barring that just killed when they get out...


Sorry for the rant... but this story is a pretty touchy spot for people from southern ontario.

i dont think any serial killer should be out of prision and homolka she made terribles crimes with Bernardo she even help him to rape her sister that's insane...

Apparently her judge asked that her deal be respected - the judge said they're in his court in Quebec now and he'll decide what is fit. Hopefully he keeps the publics' interest at heart!

yep I cringe when ppl who don't know that Im from niagara talk about the murders ...I"ll never forget the funeral for as long as I live.. :disgust

If she's released, there will be another murder, whether she commits it or not. Someone will get her instead.

What she did was heinous, and honestly, i'm not buying the "unwilling victim" part at all.

The judge says he won't be intimidated by her lawyer, the Ontario Justice Minister or the public opinion. - which I'm not so sure it's a good sign. They are saying that she has a thing for rapists/murderers this Gerbet guy isn't the first one she had a thing going with - which most psychologists say isn'T a good thing (except her own psychologist who thinks she's fully reformed)

that's what I'm saying..she already is hooked up with a serial killer who is gong tobe realeased in 2008??

what a great combo!! NOT! :warning

She cut a deal with the Crown to get Bernado. IMO she wasn't need:

THEY HAD VIDEOTAPED EVIDENCE FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!!

If I'm not mistaken, they didn't find the videotaped evidence until after the deal was already struck.

I think their lawyer at the time had something to do with hiding it or something. I can't recall.

Damn Odie. I knew a guy who killed himself and that was rough, I can't even imagine knowing someone involved in a situation like that.

There WAS evidence , but the police Did not find it initally :2 cents:

as for my opinion ...That C U N T should Rot in hell :mad: :mad:

Oh ronaldo, if you only knew how deep it goes...the whole city was in painc mode b/c the distance she lived from me was about 1 mile and let's just say I "knew" them well..better than I know most ppl here on gfy..

yup the tapes were found after the deal was made which is f'n BS they shoulda been able to re-neg on the deal... :mad:

I think she should have a nice little "accident".

HELL no!

Karla Homolka is the only woman in the world that I've ever wanted to beat the shit out of.

There is no way she will ever be able to live a normal life. Everybody in Canada hates her and no other country will take her.

B

My dad was one of the top officials at the state prison here. One day we were at the horse races and this man walks up to my dad and started talking to him. They spoke for awhile then my dad and i walked away. I asked my dad who that was. he said an ex prisoner he knew from the pen. i asked my dad what he was in there for and he told me the man had a fight with his girlfriend, chained her to the back bumper of his car , drove off and dragged her around the nieghborhood till she was dead.

Yep, the man was paroled and free to do what he wanted. Its stinks that people commit horrible crimes and be let loose later.

No fucking way. fry these fuckers. :321GFY

I hope she has an "accident" maybe she'll get mobbed when she gets out..they have to tell the community that she's therewhen she moves in right?? :disgust

that's disgusting..I have no comment :warning

this sounds like a similar case I heard about a while back. There was a woman that was dating this guy for a couple years. He was a well known respected dentist and they were engaged. The woman confided in her family and friends that the guy was into some kinky stuff, S&M and pain and stuff and she didn't like it and didn't want to be with him anymore. So they went to dinner one night, she told all her friends that she was breaking up with him that night. The people at the resturant saw her but she never made it home and was never seen again. Eventually her body was found. You find out this guy had a girlfriend on the side during he entire relationship with the victim. The girlfriend came forward and said that she and the dentist kidnapped and tourtured the victim and that when she was in the other room the guy killed her. The guy had money and a great lawyer and there was no real physical evidence so he got off. the girfriend served some time for her plee bargin. The guy sells his house and moves away. The houses new owners are tearing up the carpet and they find an envelope with pictures of the torture and murder of the victim, prooving the guy did it. But they can't retry him for the crime. So they end up trying him for purgy. Because he obviously lied on the stand and he got 5 years for that. They are going to try him for more pugry charges in an effort to keep him in jail for longer.

Maybe that is what this chick should get. If they can't retry her because of thep plee bargin, maybe they can get her on something else now that they have more proof of her involvment. Either way she should not be going free. If you take part in someone elses murder like she did the only plee you should get is that you will get life in prison and not death.

Well the government made a deal with her. Was it a bad deal? Sure. But you go renegging on deals NO ONE would cops deals and often these type deals is the only what DAs secure convictions against others. Blame the killer for the killings. Blame her impending freedom on the DA.

Well 10 years later and OJ still has yet to have any "accidents". No mobs of people seeking vengence on him so far.

I think 12 years is already enough...