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GoLiaT 05-28-2005 04:19 PM
2257 questions
 
if you run a text only tgp
and dont have any pics on your page
will you still need 2257 info for the gallerys you link to ?
soft nude banners , will they need 2257 info ?

what about amateur/voyeur sites like voyeurweb , they can hardly submit any info ?

cyber_ninja 05-28-2005 04:20 PM
sell it :2 cents:

StickyGreen 05-28-2005 04:23 PM
the law refers to "sexually explicit images" so if you dont even have images on your site obviously you dont fall under the law...

fireorange 05-28-2005 04:24 PM
Nah, not with text links.

Mr.Fiction 05-28-2005 04:29 PM
Everyone knows that all members of GFY are also legal experts, so I will answer all of these questions for you:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLiaT
if you run a text only tgp
and dont have any pics on your page
will you still need 2257 info for the gallerys you link to ?
No, as long as you don't host images or video on your server or hotlink them into your HTML pages, you do not need 2257 information.


Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLiaT
soft nude banners , will they need 2257 info ?
The government uses several terms like "sexually explicit" which are not easily defined and some of their own definitions aren't clear. If the content is very soft, like artistic nudity, they would have a hard time convicting you, but there is always risk.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLiaT
what about amateur/voyeur sites like voyeurweb , they can hardly submit any info ?
Voyeurweb is located outside of the United States, so they probably don't care. If you ran a site like Voyeurweb in the United States, you would definitely want to talk to a lawyer you trust.

There may be exceptions in the law for sites like Google, which could cover sites like Voyeurweb and Friend Finder, but it would not be certain.

You will have to decide what level of risk you wanted to assume based on a conversation with your lawyer.

abyss_al 05-28-2005 04:32 PM
GET A LAWYER!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT RELY ON WHAT YOU GET HERE BECAUSE THAT WON'T STAND IN COURT! :2 cents:

Mr.Fiction 05-28-2005 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by abyss_al
GET A LAWYER!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT RELY ON WHAT YOU GET HERE BECAUSE THAT WON'T STAND IN COURT! :2 cents:
All GFY members are lawyers - anything posted on GFY is considered to be fact in all U.S. Supreme Court cases.

Terry 05-28-2005 04:34 PM
Hmm maybe I should move all my tgp's to a Canadian host.

tony286 05-28-2005 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
All GFY members are lawyers - anything posted on GFY is considered to be fact in all U.S. Supreme Court cases.
sorry I just got out of court what did I miss lol

Judas_Hansen 05-28-2005 04:36 PM
http://sparmere.dk/div/2257gay.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-28-2005 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Hmm maybe I should move all my tgp's to a Canadian host.
Won't work. Canada is a State.

Look-up North America on a map. :thumbsup

http://www.bristolvineyard.com/blog_.../4-0canada.jpg

We won it in a poker game.

ADG Webmaster, Esq.
Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe

DWB 05-28-2005 07:58 PM
From what I understand it only applies to images. If you don't host any images, you should be in the clear... but check with your attorney just to be safe.

s9ann0 05-29-2005 06:02 PM
I think 2257 is the end of TGPs

hy777 05-29-2005 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
Everyone knows that all members of GFY are also legal experts, so I will answer all of these questions for you:



No, as long as you don't host images or video on your server or hotlink them into your HTML pages, you do not need 2257 information.




The government uses several terms like "sexually explicit" which are not easily defined and some of their own definitions aren't clear. If the content is very soft, like artistic nudity, they would have a hard time convicting you, but there is always risk.



Voyeurweb is located outside of the United States, so they probably don't care. If you ran a site like Voyeurweb in the United States, you would definitely want to talk to a lawyer you trust.

There may be exceptions in the law for sites like Google, which could cover sites like Voyeurweb and Friend Finder, but it would not be certain.

You will have to decide what level of risk you wanted to assume based on a conversation with your lawyer.
Answers like this are the ones that show you why you need a lawyer.

The definition of what is considered 'sexually explicit conduct' is very clear from 2256. The part of it being used for 2257 purposes is even clearer in that item e) was left out, the only one that might have lead to different interpretations (e > is based on the meaning of the word 'lascivious'). It was also left out the 'simulated' part of 2256 to further avoid gray areas.

Paraskass 05-29-2005 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas_Hansen
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jojojo 05-29-2005 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by abyss_al
GET A LAWYER!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT RELY ON WHAT YOU GET HERE BECAUSE THAT WON'T STAND IN COURT! :2 cents:
just print out the thread and you are golden ;)

Babagirls 05-29-2005 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojojo
just print out the thread and you are golden ;)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DWB 05-29-2005 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojojo
just print out the thread and you are golden ;)
I agree. The judge will respect and applaud your efforts.

sonofsam 05-29-2005 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
All GFY members are lawyers - anything posted on GFY is considered to be fact in all U.S. Supreme Court cases.
obviously, how else do you think we all pay for our lambos and houses on the water? :1orglaugh

stev0 05-29-2005 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanno
I think 2257 is the end of TGPs
haha, None of the biggest TGP's are US based... No way that 2257 is the end for them.

s9ann0 05-30-2005 04:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stev0
haha, None of the biggest TGP's are US based... No way that 2257 is the end for them.

oh yea I don't think so man look what happenned in Iraq when hussein didn't comply!

Webby 05-30-2005 04:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
All GFY members are lawyers - anything posted on GFY is considered to be fact in all U.S. Supreme Court cases.

Quit messing Mr.Fiction - ya know that ain't true! :-)

BUT... I got a PHD in law and my professional interpretation of 2257 is... ALL of it is sheer shit instigated by a *very* poor legislature manipulated by a few raving lunatics with an agenda. Only a deaf and dumb brain dead asylum patient could create this quality of legislation.

Do they still pay senators and whatever else in Washington to work there?? May need some reconsidering for the health of US taxpayers! :1orglaugh


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