If you promote clickcash and link to join....
 

Your conversions probably went to shit lately. The old link to the adult join page is having problems and loads a blank page a lot now. Might want to look into fixing that if you have links up.

Nothing new really, they have always played with the damn join page. Prolly just going offline more now, or switching more than it used to.

Nothing new here

Chad, i posted this for your benefit (and others reading) yesterday. You replied to it so I know you read it. There are obviously still working on the new pages. IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE THEM THEN USE:

http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm or http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNA.htm OR any of the signup pages from incrediblecams.com totallyfreecams.com or sizzlingcams.com ALL still work as they did previously.

--------posted yesterday --------------------

Hey guys... as most of you have noticed the new signup pages are still randomly displaying on most of the old signup page urls.

If you want to use the old standard signup page with the mini pics onthe side use this url: http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=1

The old signup page with the 4 cams still works fine (still little slow but no random new signup pages will appear when you use this link): http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm

New Signup Pages:
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=2
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=3
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=4
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=5
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=6
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=7
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=8
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=9
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=10

(IMPORTANT if you see missing templates still coming up then you may want to switch to the old ones to be safe, but appears all bugs are worked out.



These: http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm
OR any of the signup pages from incrediblecams.com totallyfreecams.com or sizzlingcams.com ALL still work as they did previously. )

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I know you said you have a lot of links to change in the previous post, but then again 3 weeks ago you said you weren't advertising ClickCash at all any more because you couldnt ping them. SO what is it. your advertising them or not, and if you were, then weren't, then now are, all in the matter of a couple weeks then it shouldn't be too hard to either #1 switch the join page link to one i posted here, or #2 switch to another company like you did last time you were complaning a few weeks ago.

FYI: ClickCash does not read and reply on this board .
I am using some of the signup pages i listed above and I am converting really really well today about 1:275 or so (estimated) so you might want to change them :warning if you are having problems.

You know when you talk like this I wonder what kind of traffic you are sending. When I say I'm not sending them my traffic that would be the majority of my traffic which is set up to be interchangable. Any webmaster that has been promoting a site for years will have thousands of OLD LINKS that get traffic from SE's, and other links. While it isn't the bulk of my income it's still thousands of hits / week that all link to the old join urls. Most of them were put up before the new front ends even existed. Any promotion I had up using Ifriends models obviously can't be switched out either. This should have been beta tested a lot better before it was put on the main join url right before a holiday weekend.

They are notorious for rolling shit out before a weekend or holiday weekend.

Here's how you do it. You check your signups for the last couple weeks/months. you compile a list of urls you got signups from. You do find and replace on those pages and replace the signup page link with one I have listed above. Done in about 10 mins maybe less with your volume of signups.

Why don't you get this? You claim it is impossible to edit your pages because SE, been doing for years, any webmaster would know blah vblah crap...

You don;t have to change every page that the signup page is on, just the ones that you actually get signups from. If you go back over a month you and change the ones that you actually got signups from that would take care of more then 95% of your signups.

you are very hard headed and try to come across as you know so much.... but you miss these simple things every time.

FYI they started working on this 2 weeks ago.

:1orglaugh just love this click cash threads

I wish they had some less artsy gay sign up forms

my cc conversion has fell from 1:100'ish to 1:1000

same traffic :(

also I found out that they werent paying me for some of my referrals signups lately
e-mailed them twice, no replies.. go figure

idk wtf is up with them anymore..

send the email again and CC it to me as well. I will see if they can look into it for you Tuesday. will at teamclickcash.com

A few of the new signup pages will work a lot better with gay then the old ones (when they finish setting them out).

Also try an iframe with this page: http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNA.htm you can dress it up any way you want in an iframe and will work the best for gay.

I'll try to get an e-mail out by monday

btw

I tried to signup for your team clickcash and didn't receive an e-mail from you,
so I tried to login couldnt then tried the lost pw page but it is down
( http://teamclickcash.com/lostpassword.htm )

email me your clickcash account name and i will look into it.

Thanks
Will

will reminds me of the unofficial wendy's spokesperson :)

http://www.teamclickcash.com/funny/dave.jpg

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

clickcash and scandalous moves go hand in hand. No need to reply will. There past speaks volumes :food-smil

how did you figure out they were shaving you and by how much?

I talk to one of my referrals daily and he tells me how many signups he has, they didn't show any signups from his account for 2 weeks ( he had plenty/wouldnt lie to me )..

he eventually made another account for another site or something and they started showing up again.

Amazing.

Clickcash was my #1 sponsor.. 1:20 years ago now its as bad as 1:1000 :(

targetted traffic too :\

pity they have to shave refferal signups

That's a decent rate. I had a lot of trouble converting with them but really started to look into alternative ways to link (yea, you actually have to work a little bit!). Now, much better. I never link(ed) to the Join page directly.

if none of them are showing up there is probably a problem that I am sure could easily be fixed. Everyone jumps to conclusions. I am sure no company has ever made a mistake or had an error. You automatically assume it was shaving. Why don;t you send me an email and I will make sure they get it on Tuesday, they can look into it. It is not like it is hard for them to see who you referred check their stats and then compare your referral stats to see if it matches up. Have you at least verified you friend is still using the same account, you know he could have made a new one and then decided it would be easier to let you beleive it was a ClickCash error. Who knows, but accusing them of shaving without hearing back from them is typical for a lot of you.

no in the majority of the cases I link to a page that i control, a tour or gateway page, whatever you will call it. And on that page I typically give the surfer the option to choose (signup page or more content). People committ these flaws all the time. There are 2 types of surfers, the " i want it now" and the "i want to see more". Most people advertise to one and exclude the other. IF you link to the signup page directly you are advertising to the " I want it now surfer". If your surfer wants to see more and his only option is a signup page then he is gone. At the same time if you surfer is ready to signup and you make him jump through hoops he will get distracted or sidetracked, become impatient and leave.

I prefer to use both methods. I typicaly have links like "Instant Access now- 100% FREE - Get your Screen Name now to chat" etc.. that go to signup page but will also have " Click Here to see more of xxxx's pictures or videos" " Want to see more?" " Don't like this girl, there are 1000's more" etc... which goes to a single page or tour before signup page.


Reading some of the post here, do you guys realize how important even the text on the page is, the pictures used, the option of signup page link, do you link directly to signup page, how many pictures you use and nude vs non nude, and take everything into account based upon where the traffic is coming from. I have seen some a lot of clickcash pages surfing the net, and there is no wonder why you dont convert well. While I know some will say " why are you attacking me" it's just the honest truth... if you don't think every aspect of your page, and how often you make changes to it is not super important then you are crazy.

Just because one links to join doesn't mean we don't "show them more". Have you ever considered we might host our own tours completely?

according to who and where you get your info from is key.


everyone is entittled to their opinions.

Was i talking to you?? i was making a general statement from what I have seen on lots of clickcash webmaster's pages.

Like for example I just came across this site: http://www.4drk.com/bbw/ using this site as an example, which is a typical example. The guy atleast had the right idea with the links on the side if the surfer may have come across the BBW page by accident and they prefer another niche. BUT all the links go to the signup page. So those surfer would be pissed. You click " Wome Home Alone" it goes to signup page, not where i can see more women???? Also, what if I don't like those BBW's?? My only option is to signup, what if i want to see a "tour" like you mentioned above??? I have NO OPTION.

What I would do on this page:
1. Fix the links on the left to go to a similar type page with a couple models on it from that group.
2. Provide link from this page to a central BBW site that I push all my "want to see more" traffic to. (I can explain what to put on that site late if anyonce cares).
3. I would DEFINETLY post how many BBW"s are currently online right now! If they dont like these 3 then they know that there are 100's more online to choose from.
4. The links to the signup page I would use " 100% FREE, Chat with BBW's RIGHT NOW! Make a FREE screen name to chat"
5. I would add a little personal text about each chathost on the page.
6. I would also mention that for the FREE membership they will get access to hundreds of hours of BBW vidoes and thousand's of nude BBW pics.
7. I would use better pics.
8. I would explain to them once they signup how to find the chathost. I Would use the chathost's real chat name, not only sells better if they know they can find the girl but it is nice to the chathost whos pics are being used.
9. I would never underline text and not make it a link.
10. I Would offer a short non nude video clip for each chathost.
11. I would let the surfer know how many video and pics each of the chathost listed have waiting for them to see... also that they are Live with blinking gif.
12. Explain how they can see their live webcam free, joining to their FREE fan club.
I could go on and one. But example page given here is what i see 9 out of 10 times. And in *most cases* these are the same people who are complaining about the ratios...

fyi, I logged in my account on 1 pc then logged in his account on another, I compared the stats side by side, his sales definately weren't in my stats.

not saying they shave just that it makes you wonder..

horrible conversions on same targetted traffic + missing referral sales :: shrugs ::

btw I changed my link and I'm still around 1<1k(barely)

oh yeah, I emailed them two different times (once a week) - no reply as usual for them

my referral emailed them once (to the same email address) around the same time I mailed them about setting up an account and he received a reply before my second email to them...

I don't work there, if I did I would have looked into this for you personaly by now. IF you email me I will atleast pass it on to them and it will get taken care of I can guarantee you that much. email me.

so ..

what is the current situation?

i want to send my traffic to the old join page.
how can i make 100% sure that it will go there?

currently i've changed links to
https://orders.webpower.com/ifriends/vpadult2.htm

this appears to be the only link that does not change randomly. can anybody confirm that signups are tracked correctly there?

these are the 2 i am using and I am having a great day:

http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm or http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNA.htm

That page was an error for me. I use

https://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=1

now.

I made several joins from both pages today. Clicks/Joins Ratio is better on vpadult2.htm for me.

On the vpadult.exe?s=1 I noticed rotating join pages.

Man I have no clue what is going on but when I click the link you gave I got a "page unavailable" the first time and now a "page cannot be found" error. The link I listed isn't the rotating one, it's the old adult join without the border on the side.

this link give me a HTTP 404

Yes.. this seems to work fine and is the one we have being using. Clicks/conversions seem to tie up and relate to the period prior to Clickcash pissing around with what they may think is "marketing".

:mad: DAMN. I never had any problems with clickcash in the past ( ... even when all people were bitching) but this really annoys me. it worked fine earlier today (otherwise i wouldn't have sales from that target url) but then they deleted it ..

sending hits to a 404 page ... grrr :mad:

:1orglaugh Na.. That link is working OK both from the American and Euro continents - but, who knows, they can screw it again simply! :-)

Sorry, that file is not available.
You have reached a page that does not exist on our server or that is temporarily unavailable.
Please check the referring page to be sure this URL is correct, and try again. If you still cannot connect, please copy the URL and click here to report it to our support staff.

No it is't this time it say this:
Sorry, that file is not available.
You have reached a page that does not exist on our server or that is temporarily unavailable.
Please check the referring page to be sure this URL is correct, and try again. If you still cannot connect, please copy the URL and click here to report it to our support staff.
and I think Sweden is in europe :2 cents:

They did this to my adult join link a few days ago. They didn't error it but I specifically went and got a link that didn't hit rotating pages. Couple of days later it was going to rotating pages, some of which weren't working. lol

Sheesh... thanks for mentioning this nastyking and TheSwede! :thumbsup

OK.. Back to finding some other shit that does work!! :-)

WTF is Clickcash support??

Sorry but that doesn't cut it for most people..

I just added a new sponsor last week to some stuff of mine , and if i had to go change each and every join page link i would be PISSED. Affiliates shouldnt have to look after links. ( they should check them but not have to validate them every day ).

Infact the only time i DONT care if people start REPEATED threads is when it involves sponsor links being dead.. ( unless they are doing it out of spite , and that isnt going to work for clickcash )

Agree Smokey!

Instead of a preoccupation with email about auditing traffic to Clickcash, - it would be more useful if they could compile an email with actual meaningful content to affiliates, providing valid linking info and quit playing marketing test games with affiliate traffic.

Only me... but I don't need a sponsor to give me a range of varying signup pages - that is something I can produce in under an hour. It may be more relevant in ensuring the credit card links/gateway to the EU work.

PS.. It would also be useful if these test pages did have all the image links correct :-)

I still get missing templates sometimes :waaaaahh