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galleryseek 05-28-2005 08:35 AM

Goodbye Google PageRank - Hello TrustRank
 
Sorry people, the sky is falling with 2257 in place and now the transition phase from PageRank to TrustRank has occured.

http://www.search-marketing.info/new...nk-company.htm

...or maybe they're just having technical difficulties and everything will be back as normal shortly? :winkwink:

Terry 05-28-2005 08:36 AM

Great info... thanks!

Kevsh 05-28-2005 08:40 AM

Quote:

What it means, is that if a large percentage of your links come from sites which are not well trusted search engines could either discount those links, or produce a negative weight against your site which more than compensates for the gains given from link spamming.
And therein lies the flaw that means it won't get complete usage in G's algo: All I have to do to hurt a competitor is set up links to him on garbage link farms, spam boards, etc. Never happen - at least not in terms of ranking sites in the SERPs.

DamageX 05-28-2005 08:43 AM

That trustrank thing sounds similar to the hilltop algorithm that was highly debated all over se forums a year-and-a-half ago. Nothing new and still only speculation. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it at this point.

WiredGuy 05-28-2005 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
And therein lies the flaw that means it won't get complete usage in G's algo: All I have to do to hurt a competitor is set up links to him on garbage link farms, spam boards, etc. Never happen - at least not in terms of ranking sites in the SERPs.

Exactly, knowing how to penalize a site is just as valuable as knowing how to push a site higher in the SERPs.
WG

vas 05-28-2005 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
And therein lies the flaw that means it won't get complete usage in G's algo: All I have to do to hurt a competitor is set up links to him on garbage link farms, spam boards, etc. Never happen - at least not in terms of ranking sites in the SERPs.


unless you recip to the questionable site (and im sure google can detect triangular link schemes)

HpicAnn 05-28-2005 09:03 AM

i hope it's technical difficulties...

Trax 05-28-2005 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vas
unless you recip to the questionable site (and im sure google can detect triangular link schemes)

lol
google isn't perfect
remember that
they had a PR9 of theirs hi-jacked by a PR5

jazzll 05-28-2005 09:17 AM

Funny day they do it on.
I'm in the process of buying a Link List with 40k backlinks (according to yahoo) and 4years old :winkwink: :winkwink:

Time to leave Thumb TGP biz :)

yuvalus 05-28-2005 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
And therein lies the flaw that means it won't get complete usage in G's algo: All I have to do to hurt a competitor is set up links to him on garbage link farms, spam boards, etc. Never happen - at least not in terms of ranking sites in the SERPs.


seoers think differently huh?

vas 05-28-2005 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
lol
google isn't perfect
remember that
they had a PR9 of theirs hi-jacked by a PR5

i know it isnt perfect, never said it was ;)

Trax 05-28-2005 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vas
i know it isnt perfect, never said it was ;)

you said "google can detect triangular link schemes"
which I would like to question :)

Trax 05-28-2005 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzll
Funny day they do it on.
I'm in the process of buying a Link List with 40k backlinks (according to yahoo) and 4years old :winkwink: :winkwink:

Time to leave Thumb TGP biz :)

funny... I'm about to buy the same site :)

vas 05-28-2005 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
you said "google can detect triangular link schemes"
which I would like to question :)

ah, hehe, well from my experience triangular link schemes work really well, but just cuz they work well, doesnt mean google cant detect them ;)

in the future if they were to implement a system like this trustrank, i'd watch out for it.

OG LennyT 05-28-2005 09:35 AM

I noticed my Google Toolbar doesnt show PR for any site as of yesterday.

jazzll 05-28-2005 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
funny... I'm about to buy the same site :)

Back down, it's mine! You already have www.mindblowingporn.com :1orglaugh

TheDoc 05-28-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
And therein lies the flaw that means it won't get complete usage in G's algo: All I have to do to hurt a competitor is set up links to him on garbage link farms, spam boards, etc. Never happen - at least not in terms of ranking sites in the SERPs.


I read it as Trust Rank will only care about trusted sites, even if it?s passed through to a lesser site. If my site was flagged as trusted, and your non-trusted sites are bombing me, I don?t think the trust rank will care. With your site back linking me from hell and back, you help in my page rank, or get your own site flagged as a spam or non-trusted site.

I could be wrong though; I?m not an SE expert.

jazzll 05-28-2005 09:51 AM

Good time to get Yahoo! or DMOZ directory listings :)

Trax 05-28-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzll
Back down, it's mine! You already have www.mindblowingporn.com :1orglaugh

that one has a very limited value for me...
so...
we'll see :)

Veterans Day 05-28-2005 10:00 AM

I love yahoo

slapass 05-28-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
that one has a very limited value for me...
so...
we'll see :)

it doesn't have limited value for me. someone hit me with your link list for sale icq 166708909. trax buy it and flip it to me.

kernelpanic 05-28-2005 11:51 AM

The sky is not falling, people. We'll find out the algorithm's tendancies, and beat it yet again. Give me the rules of the game, and I'll find a way to beat them, so long as it doesn't involve the DOJ

Tipsy 05-28-2005 12:01 PM

Always fascinates me when people hear a new buzzword mentioned somewhere and take it as being gospel.

But then 'trustrank' is also a long way from being something that's just appeared in Google as so many people think for some strange reason. It's also a lot more involved than certain 'experts' who write articles seem to think.

Still - keeps people happy and feeling superior 'cause they know the latest buzzword and gives the dodgy seo companies (90% of them) a new word to impress their clients with.

My only 2c on it :)

Turboface 05-28-2005 12:04 PM

This is the elimination of PageRank as we know it.

pornguy 05-28-2005 12:07 PM

Thanks for the info either way.

kernelpanic 05-28-2005 12:07 PM

Follow my logic here:

These new regulations affect everyone.
What matters in SEO is to come out on top of everyone else.
We are (most of us at least) more competent than your average weekend warrior webmaster.
Therefore, we will come out on top, still.

What are we worried about?

Adult Site Traffic 05-28-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface
This is the elimination of PageRank as we know it.

Well, I'm glad that I didn't build my entire business model around google PR like some people have :1orglaugh

I still sell the "good enough to get off on" porn and it does just fine :)

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