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Juicy D. Links 05-27-2005 07:26 PM

Question: Can VOIP phones like Vonage be....
 
"tapped" without it setting off intrusiuon detection measures?

Like a traditional phone line can be tapped but whats the story wth VOIP?

After Shock Media 05-27-2005 07:28 PM

Everything can be, but seriously do you think they have the time?

BradM 05-27-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Everything can be, but seriously do you think they have the time?

It's the US Government. Do you really need to ask?

Relish XXX 05-27-2005 07:29 PM

Very easy to listen in on VoIP calls if it is running through a DSL line. Alot of calls are carried by VoIP on traditional syle phones.

DSL by definition is a Digitial Subscriber Line where multiple people use it hence it makes it easy to sniff.

Juicy D. Links 05-27-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Everything can be, but seriously do you think they have the time?


they will make time unfortunately.... but seriosuly anyone know about Voip technology and "Securing " a line?

Relish XXX 05-27-2005 07:30 PM

Sorry shit got muddled up and thought you wanted to know how to listen in on a VoIP line.

Juicy D. Links 05-27-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
Very easy to listen in on VoIP calls if it is running through a DSL line. Alot of calls are carried by VoIP on traditional syle phones.

DSL by definition is a Digitial Subscriber Line where multiple people use it hence it makes it easy to sniff.


hmmm what about cable connections?

Relish XXX 05-27-2005 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
they will make time unfortunately.... but seriosuly anyone know about Voip technology and "Securing " a line?

If you want to secure a line get an SISDN connection.

pstation 05-27-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
hmmm what about cable connections?

cable connections are even worse since they're shared, your neighbor could potentially "sniff" whatever you're doing

cyberpunk 05-27-2005 07:43 PM

do a google search on CALEA not only can a VoIP call be taped ISPs are required by law to install tap points. IT gets even better, no only could your ISP provide the tap it is quite possible and easy for your service provider ( ie VoIP copmay do the same.


if you want SECURE VoIP its very doable.


if you want any more info ping me 4226143 ICQ

Juicy D. Links 05-27-2005 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstation
cable connections are even worse since they're shared, your neighbor could potentially "sniff" whatever you're doing


true true true good point.

Barefootsies 05-27-2005 07:48 PM

If you are referring to DSL VoIP yes, they can tap it. DSL runs over a copper loop (i.e. a phone line). It's just provisioned differently at the central office to use the traditional wasted band(width) of the copper pair.

As for cable, I would say the answer's no. Not at this time. Copper is shared, true. It's on a loop shared by your neighborhood, or area. This both creates the problem where someone on that loop could hack in (in thery) but would also make it harder to tap if there were say, 100 cable users on a single loop.

Nextel's can't be tapped either because of their encryption.

However, with systems like Escelon, and so forth they were designed purposely to track all forms of media.. phone, internet, e-mail, and so forth. Some have complained that the system is being misused and being used for corporate espinoge in the E.U. countries for industry secrets.

I guess the best answer for your question would be to do cable (like a Vonage for consumer), and get some additional encryption software/hardware.

:Oh crap

pstation 05-27-2005 08:02 PM

If security is important, use skype; they uses AES encryption

pstation 05-27-2005 08:08 PM

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095777

insightful article about eavesdropping and voip :thumbsup

Babagirls 05-27-2005 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstation
If security is important, use skype; they uses AES encryption

wonder if thats what mobsters use now-a-days..hmmmm

cyberpunk 05-27-2005 08:29 PM

AES is the only crypto people should trust

Pete-KT 05-27-2005 08:31 PM

Yes they can easily be tapped and you wouldnt know and cant tell the differnce, we did a study on them in school.


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