2257 means you can just throw this sort of thing right out the window?

**fireorange** · 05-26-2005, 05:20 PM

Yes, I think so.

**fireorange** · 05-26-2005, 05:21 PM

To be fair, if the government wanted to check the ID of a model on that domain, which address should they check out? I think that's why the gov made these new 2257 laws.

**pr0** · 05-26-2005, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

To be fair, if the government wanted to check the ID of a model on that domain, which address should they check out? I think that's why the gov made these new 2257 laws.

FAIR?

FAIR?

Fair is forcing people to make MAJOR paperwork changes in less than a months notice?

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:25 PM

Well that just seems like a waste since the thumbnails link to pages hosted by the primary producer anyway. It's clear these new 2257 regs are just a way to shut down a good chunk of porn sites. Fear is the tool and it's a good one.

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

To be fair, if the government wanted to check the ID of a model on that domain, which address should they check out? I think that's why the gov made these new 2257 laws.

Or they could just click to the page with the full size thumbs and see who the primary producer is.

**GatorB** · 05-26-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by pr0

FAIR?

FAIR?

Fair is forcing people to make MAJOR paperwork changes in less than a months notice?

These rules were proposed almost a year ago. Did you think they WOULDN'T pass? Especially after Bush got re-elected? Rules sucks. Totally un-necessary, but to say you only had a month's notice is BS too.

**GatorB** · 05-26-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

Or they could just click to the page with the full size thumbs and see who the primary producer is.

Well if you read the regs the SECONDARY producer meaning YOU is now just as responsible for keeping these records. So yes those adresses are useless the only one the DOJ wants to see is YOURS.

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

Well if you read the regs the SECONDARY producer meaning YOU is now just as responsible for keeping these records. So yes those adresses are useless the only one the DOJ wants to see is YOURS.

Yes, I am aware of this. The point I was trying to make is this...

It's not hard to find the primary producer of any given thumbnail image. Just click the thumb.

**GatorB** · 05-26-2005, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

Yes, I am aware of this. The point I was trying to make is this...

It's not hard to find the primary producer of any given thumbnail image. Just click the thumb.

I would assume you are also hosting the large image too. WTF kind of site are you running?

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:37 PM

It's not even my site. Just opening some debate.

Most TGPs do not host the larger images. The thumbs link to a page usually hosted by the affiliate program.

I see the only change in most TGPs using thumbs is that they will simply change over to all text links.

**thonglife** · 05-26-2005, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

2257 pages that simply list all the 2257 info for the content providers are worthless now correct?

Like this page... http://www.teenseries.com/2257.html

Since all secondary producers must now maintain records just like primary producers.

http://www.officerjellynutz.com/mp3s...e%20Police.mp3

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by thonglife

http://www.officerjellynutz.com/mp3s...e%20Police.mp3

Word to yo mutha.

**latinasojourn** · 05-26-2005, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

2257 pages that simply list all the 2257 info for the content providers are worthless now correct?

Like this page... http://www.teenseries.com/2257.html

Since all secondary producers must now maintain records just like primary producers.

from my understanding the PAGE is not worthless, if it is the right type point size and can be accessed correctly from your home page.

AND, if you hold copies of the original docs from the primary producer(s)

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by latinasojourn

from my understanding the PAGE is not worthless, if it is the right type point size and can be accessed correctly from your home page.

AND, if you hold copies of the original docs from the primary producer(s)

If you hold copies of all the docs from the primary producers, you don't need to list their addresses. It's redundant.

**GatorB** · 05-26-2005, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by latinasojourn

from my understanding the PAGE is not worthless, if it is the right type point size and can be accessed correctly from your home page.

AND, if you hold copies of the original docs from the primary producer(s)

If YOU hold the copies and YOU have to, then YOU are the "custodian of records" and as such it's YOUR address that needs to be on that page. How else is the DOJ going to find you to do an inspection?

**Series** · 05-26-2005, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

It's not even my site. Just opening some debate.

Heh... I think I know who that site belongs to

So it's clear, this page was not created in response to the new rules. It was created nearly a year ago for sponsor galleries, and is updated as needed.

2257 has been enforced for submitted galleries as well.

Just doing what a good NON-American can

**Series** · 05-26-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

To be fair, if the government wanted to check the ID of a model on that domain, which address should they check out? I think that's why the gov made these new 2257 laws.

They could just ask me... every gallery record has the sponsor / site attached.

Or they could just fly up to Canada and ask to see all my documents

**fireorange** · 05-26-2005, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Series

They could just ask me... every gallery record has the sponsor / site attached.

Or they could just fly up to Canada and ask to see all my documents

Just wait, GatorB is copying and pasting a paragraph for you

**pornguy** · 05-26-2005, 07:32 PM

Do your self a favor and keep the page

**Series** · 05-26-2005, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

Just wait, GatorB is copying and pasting a paragraph for you

lol... i've read through all the "Devil's Advocate" threads :|

**Illicit** · 05-26-2005, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

Or they could just click to the page with the full size thumbs and see who the primary producer is.

yeah click the thumb and 90% of the time end up at another site

**Series** · 05-26-2005, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Illicit

yeah click the thumb and 90% of the time end up at another site

only 31% of the time, some days only 20% :P

**ChefJeff** · 05-26-2005, 07:57 PM

You have a great site there, except you haven't posted any of our galleries!

**Oberon** · 05-26-2005, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by Series

lol... i've read through all the "Devil's Advocate" threads :|

Hah, I'll skip it this time then.

**Series** · 05-26-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

You have a great site there, except you haven't posted any of our galleries!

That's why it's so great

j/k thanks

I will check it out... hook me up with a pass

edit: or are you not referring to Kinzie but rather submissions?

**ChefJeff** · 05-27-2005, 09:01 AM

Yes, referring to Kinzie.

Will send you a pass as soon as I get home from vacation. (in 2 days)

2257 means you can just throw this sort of thing right out the window?

2257 means you can just throw this sort of thing right out the window?

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