2257 - No More Overseas Content for American Webmasters?
 

2257 regs are seriously screwed up.

https://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0

MaDalton...bite me ;)

j/k but see it's issues like these that are making it so cloudy that people are wondering what to do and what not to do...and if I were purchasing content as an American I would just make it easier on myself and only deal with American content providers.

My understanding is that if your shooter and the model are not in the US when the production takes place then ID's issued by a foreign government are sufficient.

If it's a foreign model on American soil, then only a passport or green card will suffice for ID.

I could be wrong though.

Hmmmm....I may be wrong here.

Quoting
"....a foreign equivalent of the documents listed above when both the person who is the subject of the picture identification card and the producer maintaining the required records are located outside the United States"

that's pretty fucked up.

You think they made things this ambiguous on purpose?

And the people on this board outside the US thought this would not affect them.

No way on earth that is the case. They can not tell us where we can and can not work, or who we can and can not work with. The wording may lead to that, but I don't think that's what it honestly means.

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silvia saint :)

Almost as screwed up as 100 posts about the same exact bullshit over and over again.

:disgust

i would doubt the constitutionality of this

Duke

let me clue you in

if your a foreigner and are hired for a job in the US, legally you must have a working VISA issued by the gov.

Its all about taxes, not taking work away from US citizens and taking money out of the US..

that law has been there for ages.

and same goes for all european countries too. you gotta have work visas.

having been in the music business it really effects bands and their crews when they want to tour the states. Same goes for US bands that tour europe.

It's being worked on. It will probably take a few legal stabs before they go back to the drawing board to reword it.

i try - hehe

but - that interpretation would mean that the US law is trying a regulation on something that is not even their business cause it is something outside their country (not that they wouldn't try it though like they always do).

but i read it as the producer (the primary) who is foreign can use foreign ids while the american producer is only allowed to work with american models.

which doesn't make sense too - but is probably closer than the other interpretation

Good news on this issue:

https://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0

What I really dont understand about this section of the law is how it allows the use of foreign IDs for models as long as the producer (whether it be secondary or primary) also be located outside the United States. So...why the fuck is an American federal law addressing an issue that is totally foreign. How can the United States "allow" a foreign producer to shoot a foreign girl? They have absolutely no jurisdiction over either party, so it shouldnt even be an issue in the law. If they wanted to limit Americas from using foreign content wouldnt it make a TON more sense if they wrote to law to DISALLOW American producers (again, both primary and secondary) to use foreign based content, instead of ALLOWING foreign producers to use foreign content? Does anyone get what im saying?

They probably weren't content producers

So Conner, is essence what Obenberger is saying is that as long as you have a valid PASSPORT copy of the foreign model, you will be ok, even if you are in the United States.

that sounds much more reasonable

Just Photoshop all your ID's... Our gov't is a bunch of idiots, our FBI didn't even have working emails... We can't even keep mexicans from crossing a 2 foot deep river jumping a fence and selling oranges, you really think our lazy ass vote themself a raise patting on the back gov't is going to have the time or resources to even get into checking all this shit? They have absolutely no clue the of the magnitude of work they are putting on themselves, and once the find out how much work it actually will be, it will fall thru the fucking cracks. They seriously would have to set up something similar to the fucking IRS to run this stupid bullshit.

it's just poorly worded. if the intent was not to allow American webmasters to buy/use foreign produced content that clause wouldn't even be in 2257 and there'd be another clause prohibiting it, and yeah, it would probably be unconstitutional.

it's still screwy - what the fuck does it matter whether it's an American shooter over in Eastern Europe shooting or a shooter who lives there permanently?

Say hi to bubba for me.

that's probably true


america doesn't want you leave your country - they need you there :winkwink: