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gleem 05-26-2005 07:20 AM

2257 and sites like adultfriendfinder? they are toast!
 
how are places that take surfer submission pics gonna comply with 2257? It's pretty impossible. Shit, just having the non "PG" AFF geo banner on your site makes your site non compliant.

is the sky falling?

who 05-26-2005 07:27 AM

Nope, the sky isn't falling.

StuartD 05-26-2005 07:28 AM

I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"

GatorB 05-26-2005 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .?.
Nope, the sky isn't falling.

http://www.bized.ac.uk/images/ostrich.jpg

TheLegacy 05-26-2005 07:36 AM

maybe you ask a real honest to goodness 2257 lawyer before making comments like that

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com

bigdog 05-26-2005 07:45 AM

i would suspect those free voyeur sites are going to be in trouble if they are us based

GoodStuff 05-26-2005 07:56 AM

They'll find a solution if they haven't already. It will be part of teh member review process I'm sure.

Veterans Day 05-26-2005 07:58 AM

yes AFF is shutting down in 47 days, GFY is full of nothing but clueless, brain dead idiots. Why OH Why :1orglaugh

Tango 05-26-2005 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"

changing ads to PG?
how about filtering all of the content to PG?
then the conversions - signups will drop
I'm 150% sure that they are working on solutions for this.

Lensman 05-26-2005 08:00 AM

The will rely on the usenet type definiation I believe.

chadglni 05-26-2005 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veterans Day
yes AFF is shutting down in 47 days, GFY is full of nothing but clueless, brain dead idiots. Why OH Why :1orglaugh

Regardless of them having to shut down they have an assload of work in front of them. Do you even realize the time involved to check every pic in every profile for explicit shit on an ONGOING basis. Or am I wrong to think that once you are approved you can upload more pics at will.

Maybe they are a "service provider"?

chadglni 05-26-2005 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
The will rely on the usenet type definiation I believe.

If you are talking about them being exempt then this would still require everyone posting their own pics to keep up with documents right? Not only that, AFF personally approves pics so that defense might not work for them.

Hinc 05-26-2005 08:03 AM

A major program like that has the resources to find and implement a solution im sure.

chadglni 05-26-2005 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc
A major program like that has the resources to find and implement a solution im sure.

You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?

Veterans Day 05-26-2005 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?

yes they just started worrying about this :1orglaugh

chadglni 05-26-2005 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veterans Day
yes they just started worrying about this :1orglaugh

Ahahaha so you think they've already been getting the required documents or letting their members know that if they post explicit pics they could be arrested? You are fooling yourself like nobody I've ever seen on this board. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I can go start a profile today and upload anything I want after it is approved. Even if they started screening now they would still have months of work in front of them with a dedicated team to clear out all the old stuff.

Marcus Aurelius 05-26-2005 08:13 AM

how about sites like mallcom stores? where none of the box images are hosted at your site, yet display on your domain? that would make you a secondary producer would it not, havent seen it discussed yet but was curious.

gleem 05-26-2005 11:44 AM

I dunno, but all the surfer submit type of sites like AFF and rating sites are gonna have to do something.

if there is any type of review process I don't think a usenet definition would be a defense if I remember what my lawyer said last time 2257 came up and I was running a surfer submission site.

detoxed 05-26-2005 11:52 AM

You people are insane. Have a nice day. AFF is not going to shut down over 2257, nor will they have to keep track of thousands and thousands of records regarding 2257 for every single picture of a half nude chick on the site.

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?


true, if it takes a human to moderate and make a judgment call on each image submitted it will be a huge workload---you can't build a script for that.

HAPPYPEEKERS 05-26-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Or am I wrong to think that once you are approved you can upload more pics at will.

Maybe they are a "service provider"?

AFF has to approve every pic before they put it up :thumbsup

After Shock Media 05-26-2005 12:03 PM

Maybe just maybe the vast majority of the pics are not sexually explicit by deffinition. :2 cents:

NaughtyRob 05-26-2005 12:06 PM

I have a project that I am working on now....models are submitting me content.
I first had them sign and fax or mail a release and send me thier IDS.

HAPPYPEEKERS 05-26-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Maybe just maybe the vast majority of the pics are not sexually explicit by deffinition. :2 cents:

On Adult Friend Finder and Alt.. Tons of pics are explicit to the core lol

Besides being an affiliate of aff for the past 5 years.. We are also members :winkwink:

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JSA Matt 05-26-2005 12:12 PM

i'm still wondering about VOD sites like AEBN and Hotmovies

homegrownmof 05-26-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
The will rely on the usenet type definiation I believe.


What is this? Sounds like way too huge a loophole.

I'd like to hear AFFs solution.

.

baddog 05-26-2005 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"


If a chick is spreading her pussy . . . . sexually explicit :2 cents:

baddog 05-26-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Maybe just maybe the vast majority of the pics are not sexually explicit by deffinition. :2 cents:


Most aren't . . . . just makes it tougher to find the ones that are.


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