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Monique Niccole 05-26-2005 06:35 AM

Content providers who won't provide proper 2257 documents?
 
Have you guys run into any content providers who have either been unresponsive or flat out refused to give you proper 2257 docs?

basschick 05-26-2005 06:36 AM

sure have - they said they were concerned about the models' safety.

thonglife 05-26-2005 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrekete
Have you guys run into any content providers who have either been unresponsive or flat out refused to give you proper 2257 docs?

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TheLegacy 05-26-2005 06:41 AM

there will be a sifting out of webmasters and content providers who simply dont have the resources to get their files in order. The older - more trusted providers have already spend the money on lawyers and personelle to have all documents accurate for situations like this.

We full time lawyers and staff dedicated just to this 2257 request and have already sponsored the Free Speech and meet with them - whether there is an injunction - we are ready to make sure every one of our clients and webmaster paradise are compliant when it concerns our plugin movies

Nydahl 05-26-2005 06:42 AM

we offer about 200 videos + 800 photosets now - all coming with complet and clear 2257 docs.We made models to sign permission to display that.

Also we offer Euromovies (113 videos) and we don't provide with 2257 docs for this category.We don't have signed permission from models to display their presonal data so we don't provide with 2257 for those .
Its separated category and there is a clear statement about that so ...

StuartD 05-26-2005 06:43 AM

Some content producers aren't required to hand that stuff out.... as in, out of the US producers. Which is fine so long as they're selling to out of the US purchasers.

You have to realize, the entire industry isn't solely in the US and governed by it's rules... just a very very very large chunk of it.

rs1 05-26-2005 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
we offer about 200 videos + 800 photosets now - all coming with complet and clear 2257 docs.We made models to sign permission to display that.

talked to Nydahl last night on ICQ and he was on the ball, getting me the info we needed for our past sets!

Monique Niccole 05-26-2005 06:50 AM

We've dealt with a lot of content providers over the last few weeks and most have been very responsive and easy to deal with. Most of those are older and more established guys. But, we have run into a few who have flat-out refused or comepletely ignored all e-mails, ICQ's etc. Nydahl was one of the ones who really looked out and has been very easy to deal with.

rs1 05-26-2005 08:44 AM

WHat do you guys think of a content ptovider tell you. But more content of equal value and ill fill your past content purchases 2257 requirement.

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 11:46 AM

a primary content provider based in the USA that fails to provide appropriate docs to a secondary producer in in VIOLATION of the revised regs the way i read them.

he will have his own can of worms to deal.

suggestion to all USA webmasters who need your docs:

get your requests out THIS WEEK with proof of mailing certificates on every provider on your 2257 list.

this is serious, and you need to take proactive steps to protect your business.

some content will no doubt have to come down.

dasexi1 05-26-2005 11:59 AM

I have 3 I've contacted. So far Tia from midnightdigital.com is the only one that imediately took care of it right then and there on the spot, one other said he'd take care of it, but i haven't heard back from him yet.

I'm glad I shoot most of my own content, I can't begin to imagine what some of you must be dealing with right now trying to get these providers to respond!

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasexi1
I have 3 I've contacted. So far Tia from midnightdigital.com is the only one that imediately took care of it right then and there on the spot, one other said he'd take care of it, but i haven't heard back from him yet.

I'm glad I shoot most of my own content, I can't begin to imagine what some of you must be dealing with right now trying to get these providers to respond!


listen up world-wide content providers.

you should IMMEDIATELY get all of your ID docs into a folder on an FTP server that is password protected, and if any of your secondary producers needs copies of docs you direct them to this folder, no fucking around, and immediately.

because if you do not, i suspect (if you are USA based) you will be amongst the first to go down.

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 12:08 PM

and do this with every model you've ever shot. IMMEDIATELY.

dasexi1 05-26-2005 12:22 PM

Oh and let me add Content Producer to my list of quick to respond :thumbsup
that guy has been top notch from the start!

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latinasojourn
and do this with every model you've ever shot. IMMEDIATELY.


Quote:
Three commenters commented that the record-shifting requirements under Sec. Sec. 75.2(a) and (b) are impermissibly burdensome. According to the commenters, primary producers would resist turning over records that contain trade secrets, such as the identities of performers. The Department declines to adopt these comments. The D.C. Circuit Court clearly held in American Library Ass'n v. Reno that the record-keeping requirements were not unconstitutionally burdensome. Any primary producer who fails to release the records to a secondary producer is simply in violation of the regulations and may not use the excuse that the records contain alleged trade secrets to avoid compliance. Quote:

alan-l 05-26-2005 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
we offer about 200 videos + 800 photosets now - all coming with complet and clear 2257 docs.We made models to sign permission to display that.

Also we offer Euromovies (113 videos) and we don't provide with 2257 docs for this category.We don't have signed permission from models to display their presonal data so we don't provide with 2257 for those .
Its separated category and there is a clear statement about that so ...

and having you answering a mail or ICQ must be considered a miracle, I guess :winkwink:

Adam-EB 05-26-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
we offer about 200 videos + 800 photosets now - all coming with complet and clear 2257 docs.We made models to sign permission to display that.

Also we offer Euromovies (113 videos) and we don't provide with 2257 docs for this category.We don't have signed permission from models to display their presonal data so we don't provide with 2257 for those .
Its separated category and there is a clear statement about that so ...

Maybe all for nothing... American webmasters may not be able to buy foreign content any more:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472719

thonglife 05-26-2005 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam-EB
Maybe all for nothing... American webmasters may not be able to buy foreign content any more:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472719

There are some foreign sponsors out there with the only 2257 as being [email protected]. Are any other affiliates dropping some of the foreign teen sponsors? :(

MikeSmoke 05-26-2005 07:26 PM

From David Lace:
<< We can provide Adobe pdf documents containing all the required documents and/or a complete fully cross-referenced File Maker Pro database file which will be compatible and importable into most database software. As you may imagine we are currently swamped with requests for documentation. And because of the time that each request takes we must charge an administration fee for the time it takes us to compile your documents. There is a charge of $25/hour for research, document retrieval and database
creation. >>

Vittorio 05-26-2005 08:10 PM

I'm sure there will be a lot of difficulty and a lot of sweat lost over all this. But be assured, www.hotamateurmpegs.com is totally set and most, if not all our customers already have theirs.

Read this thread for fully colpiant content providers.

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/472689-2257-compliant-content-else-post.html

GigaBugBee says it best about our 2257 docs. His response is going on our new Testimonials Page on our site!!

: ))

basschick 05-26-2005 08:12 PM

has anyone heard from ounique on this issue?

latinasojourn 05-26-2005 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSmoke
From David Lace:
<< We can provide Adobe pdf documents containing all the required documents and/or a complete fully cross-referenced File Maker Pro database file which will be compatible and importable into most database software. As you may imagine we are currently swamped with requests for documentation. And because of the time that each request takes we must charge an administration fee for the time it takes us to compile your documents. There is a charge of $25/hour for research, document retrieval and database
creation. >>


inasmuch as the new revised regs say that the primary producer must supply docs to the secondary producer (or he is in VIOLATION) i wonder how the DOJ will feel about a primary producer forcing his buyers to jump through hoops to get docs.

i recall a few years back sobe girl tried to play the same game.

things that make 'ya go hmmmmmmmmm.

will76 05-26-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick
has anyone heard from ounique on this issue?

just second hand rumors... (not good)


Hoping my content guy gets back to me in the near future :(

So WHO has said NO they can't provide the goods I am curious.

bradpitt 06-14-2005 11:40 AM

http://www.************* has all the docs for all the sets.. check them out..

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