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goBigtime 05-17-2005 05:15 PM

Will the Archive.org archive be exempt from 2257's?
 
Think about that a sec :)

tranza 05-17-2005 05:16 PM

I don't think so.

jawanda 05-17-2005 05:16 PM

helluvah good question. I'm sure there's some loophole for that type of service though.

directfiesta 05-17-2005 05:18 PM

And providers of newsgroups ????

( giganews, usenetserver, titan, etc ... )

goBigtime 05-17-2005 05:19 PM

As the 2257 changes were originally proposed....

There was this....


Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following:


... [snip]....

(v)
A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing serice who does not manage the content of the computer site or service.

.... [snip]....

xenigo 05-17-2005 05:20 PM

Same question applies to Google Cache, and Yahoo Cache. :2 cents:

goBigtime 05-17-2005 05:22 PM

Would archive.org and the like be considered a remote computing service?

And if so, could you or I start a 'remote computing service' that would collect/spider and display sexually oriented images to the public for the benefit of the company displaying them?

:error

directfiesta 05-17-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goBigtime
As the 2257 changes were originally proposed....

There was this....


Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following:


... [snip]....

(v)
A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing serice who does not manage the content of the computer site or service.

.... [snip]....

Interesting ....

But in the case of newsgroups provider, they do decide which group they carry or not ...

This is complicated ... and will get worse.

goBigtime 05-17-2005 05:25 PM

In a nutshell...

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
This is complicated ... and will get worse.


goBigtime 05-17-2005 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
But in the case of newsgroups provider, they do decide which group they carry or not ...


What if they decide to carry "All" newsgroups. Ie, no selecting of groups. They just carry "all of usenet". Sort of like how archive.org, google, yahoo, etc... try to cache "all of the internet".

Will they be granted special exemptions?

directfiesta 05-17-2005 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goBigtime
What if they decide to carry "All" newsgroups. Ie, no selecting of groups. They just carry "all of usenet". Sort of like how archive.org, google, yahoo, etc... try to cache "all of the internet".

Will they be granted special exemptions?

I have a hard time with that when they have groups like alt.binairies.erotica.child ...

But maybe Whacko Jacko will have some influence .... or they will ignore newsgroups as much surfers know nothing about them ....


I like alt.binairies.cd.image .... lol

seeric 05-17-2005 05:41 PM

oohhhh good ass question.

reynold 05-17-2005 08:50 PM

I don't think so...
This site might be dragged on this issue as well.


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