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Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 06:40 AM

UK folks - America is about to meet Mr. Galloway
 
he is about to speak at a U.S. Senate Committee hearing..this should be interesting

samsam 05-17-2005 07:36 AM

Galloway is ok in my book

he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement

SGS 05-17-2005 07:40 AM

Not one of Tony Blairs best friends :)

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by samsam
Galloway is ok in my book

he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement

what do you actually know about him?

Tipsy 05-17-2005 08:14 AM

The right wing are gonna hate him. It may prove interesting to watch.

European Lee 05-17-2005 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
what do you actually know about him?

Hahaha judging by his above post? About as much as the average GFY'er knows about intelligence LOL

Regards,

Lee

MGPspots 05-17-2005 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by samsam
Galloway is ok in my book

he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement

Holy shit you're thick

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 08:28 AM

and the games begin!

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 08:28 AM

btw..have to love how this is on the opening day of parliment too so he couldn't be there

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 08:34 AM

on the Sky news feed there was a woman behind him making insane faces..amazingly she moved and another woman took her place

Tim 05-17-2005 08:36 AM

That one court case I'd like to hear. Mr Galloway is always entertaining.

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 08:38 AM

well...on sky, bbc and no doubt cspan at the moment

Tipsy 05-17-2005 08:41 AM

www.bbc.co.uk/news has a live feed going. He's not happy is he? 'Puppet government' was probably the smallest insult he used :)

SGS 05-17-2005 08:43 AM

A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.

Tim 05-17-2005 08:45 AM

I don't think he'll be too popular with the US administration either somehow.

MGPspots 05-17-2005 08:46 AM

Yeah watching it now - great stuff. Hate Galloway but gotta say he's good

Tipsy 05-17-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SGS
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.

The short news reports make it hard to judge the guy. This is proving exactly as you say - he's anything but stupid.

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 08:49 AM

oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt

Hornydog4cooter 05-17-2005 08:52 AM

He is on fox news now. I must say he is well spoken and very blunt lol. I like this guy :thumbsup

Cains 05-17-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt

completely unrelated but can you drop me a mail (in sig)

Vendot 05-17-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SGS
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.

I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cains
completely unrelated but can you drop me a mail (in sig)


sure..will do it right now

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 09:10 AM

ooooo..handbags

Adult-biz 05-17-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt

Whatever you think about what he stands for, he certainly is a great speaker. His winning speech after his victory in the Bethnal Green & Bow constituency was very powerful.

samsam...as per the previous remarks, perhaps you are not sure what he is all about.

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vendot
I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.

of course after the Labour party kicked him out and in seat with a highly muslim population

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sexus
Whatever you think about what he stands for, he certainly is a great speaker. His winning speech after his victory in the Bethnal Green & Bow constituency was very powerful.

samsam...as per the previous remarks, perhaps you are not sure what he is all about.


oh for sure..you can't doubt he really believes in the things he is talking about...for me he takes things too far but as I can understand why he grabs some people by the balls and makes them listen

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 09:14 AM

well, that was fun

Adult-biz 05-17-2005 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
oh for sure..you can't doubt he really believes in the things he is talking about...for me he takes things too far but as I can understand why he grabs some people by the balls and makes them listen

Yes.
Very intelligent man and I would think very manipulative also.
Over the years there has been some real key speakers in British politics and again whether people agree with what Galloway has done or not, you cannot deny that he is capable of destroying people with his communication skills.

Vendot 05-17-2005 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
of course after the Labour party kicked him out and in seat with a highly muslim population

It doesnt matter, it was a very strongly held Labour position and its never been done before.

I really dont think he goes too far. Rather, that few people have the balls to be as outspoken as he is because they know that the dissenting view is the one that tends to get trampled on.

I also reckon the majority of the british public, if theyre honest with themselves, share the same position he has on Iraq. It is a disaster, and it has been a huge calamity thats not over yet.

mardigras 05-17-2005 09:46 AM

If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link

Vendot 05-17-2005 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link

You missed out.... it was very interesting and very funny at the same time.

The best thing was when a reporter questioned him as he was leaving something like "Do you think it was appropriate to call the senator a crazed neo-con" to which he nodded and replied something like "He is a crazed neo-con..." before adding two or three other insults to the list.

Haha... funny bloke.

Vendot 05-17-2005 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link

It seems you can see the whole hearing or at least most of his introduction if you click the video thing on this web page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/p...s/4556113.stm#

Tim 05-17-2005 12:23 PM

That is interesting

Rich 05-17-2005 12:35 PM

"I know that standards have slipped over the last few years in Washington but for a lawyer you are remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice."

I like this guy.

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot
I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.

and we all know how he won it........

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
and we all know how he won it........

death threats come to mind

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich
I like this guy.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
death threats come to mind

and the fact that he manipulated the people of the seat, just to win. ABout a quarter of the people in his seat think he is a total scumbag and have seen through his "im the muslims friend" act.

Vendot 05-17-2005 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
and the fact that he manipulated the people of the seat, just to win. ABout a quarter of the people in his seat think he is a total scumbag and have seen through his "im the muslims friend" act.

What a load of crap. He played by the rules and he won it fair and square.

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot
What a load of crap. He played by the rules and he won it fair and square.

sure he played by the rules, read that http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...og/4519553.stm

I dont usually like paxman but im half way through reading it now and its got galloway right down to a tee. He chose to run in bethnal green because of racial tension which he knew he could exploit...

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot
I also reckon the majority of the british public, if theyre honest with themselves, share the same position he has on Iraq. It is a disaster, and it has been a huge calamity thats not over yet.

He holds that position because he wont be getting his pocket money from saddam hussein no more...

Vendot 05-17-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
sure he played by the rules, read that http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...og/4519553.stm

I dont usually like paxman but im half way through reading it now and its got galloway right down to a tee. He chose to run in bethnal green because of racial tension which he knew he could exploit...

I saw that interview and thought paxman was way out line.... incidently most of the viewer comments on that web page agree with me on that. Galloway won it fair and square and ive heard no claim to the contrary.

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot
I saw that interview and thought paxman was way out line.... incidently most of the viewer comments on that web page agree with me on that. Galloway won it fair and square and ive heard no claim to the contrary.

hmmm hardly anyone ever sends comments in if they think something is fine, in the same way that you dont have a "war march" but you do have "anti war marches". He wanted to get into parliment, his old seat was in glasgow, think he would have won there? No way! Although no longer a seat, the replacement seat was won with a 10,000 majority. He searched for a backdoor into parliment, bethnal green and bow, and he has taken the muslim population of that seat for a ride. He has 1 policy and that is anti-war, he found the set of people that would appeal to the most, funnily enough some people have cottoned on to this and hate his guts, they know he is just using them to get into the commons.

Evan

Vendot 05-17-2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evanmorgan
hmmm hardly anyone ever sends comments in if they think something is fine, in the same way that you dont have a "war march" but you do have "anti war marches".

Sure but they could just have equally slated Galloway and he would have been a more likely target of complaint as he is the subject of the interview (as opposed to the interviewer). If anything Galloway himself is far less mainstream "popular" than Paxman.

Anyhow, debating how he won it is pointless. He played by the rules and he won - its as simple as that. I agree that he appears to have just one policy but the fact is that the majority of voters liked it and thats all thats needed.

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 02:43 PM

he played on her race, he played on her gender and pandered to 'traditional' local views of women and mixed race people...so it may be by the rules but it was dirty pool

Vendot 05-17-2005 02:54 PM

Sarah, I know you dont like Galloway but I just dont get it.

To me, this guy is brilliant. He's just outstanding for being a champion on a moral cause which the people of the country (if not the wider world support). Hes standing up to the government (UK and US) and, against the odds, having some considerable measure of success.

Its his outspoken attitude that has resulted in so many accusations being levelled against him, largely because he rocks the boat. He's fought in the courts and successfully cleared his name every single time.

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 03:04 PM

explain why he didnt run in his own seat of glasgow kelvin (or glasgow NW or whatever its called)

mardigras 05-17-2005 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
He holds that position because he wont be getting his pocket money from saddam hussein no more...

Do you know something that was hidden today? He said that if there was any truth to the allegations against him that the proof would be known and surely put in front of him at this hearing. His first "OWNED the senate" moment was when he said he met with Saddam Hussein the exact same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld, the difference was that Donald Rumsfeld's 2 meetings were to give him guns and maps while his 2 meetings were to call for end to sanctions and war. :upsidedow

evanmorgan 05-17-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
Do you know something that was hidden today? He said that if there was any truth to the allegations against him that the proof would be known and surely put in front of him at this hearing. His first "OWNED the senate" moment was when he said he met with Saddam Hussein the exact same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld, the difference was that Donald Rumsfeld's 2 meetings were to give him guns and maps while his 2 meetings were to call for end to sanctions and war. :upsidedow

see this shows his intelligence, hes made sure everyone listening has remembered that, and not that fact that there are countless documents showing bribery....

Evan

Sarah_Jayne 05-17-2005 03:27 PM

i don't believe him to be totally clean and in addition when I have heard him interviewed in the past (even before the war) he was very rude to people and down right mean.


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