Protecting MEMBERS AREA Content - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

X

Pimp Dough

Join Date: Sep 2026

Posts:
Share

Post
#1

Protecting MEMBERS AREA Content

05-04-2005, 06:15 PM

What are the best ways to protect a paysite's "Members Area" from getting stolen and preventing theft?

Videos/Pictures/Passwords/etc...

Other than DRM, what is available?

I look forward to informative replies.

Thanks in advance!

Pimp Dough
[email protected]
Tags: None
European Lee

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2002

Posts: 7133
Share

Post
#2

05-04-2005, 06:39 PM

Ask the guys at National Net

Regards,

Lee

YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH
PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!!
AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT
Comment
BV

wtf

Join Date: Sep 2001

Posts: 10914
Share

Post
#3

05-04-2005, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

What are the best ways to protect a paysite's "Members Area" from getting stolen and preventing theft?

Videos/Pictures/Passwords/etc...

Other than DRM, what is available?

I look forward to informative replies.

Thanks in advance!

Pimp Dough
[email protected]

do you mean as in other webmasters ripping your content? if so watermark your content.

if you mean surfer password sharing, get www.proxypass.com
Comment
Jace

FBOP Class Of 2013

Join Date: Jan 2004

Posts: 35562
Share

Post
#4

05-04-2005, 06:44 PM

i use IProtect for password trading myself
Comment
Pimp Dough
Share

Post
#5

05-04-2005, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by BV

do you mean as in other webmasters ripping your content? if so watermark your content.

if you mean surfer password sharing, get www.proxypass.com

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.
Comment
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn

Join Date: Jul 2004

Posts: 38323
Share

Post
#6

05-04-2005, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.

Good luck with that...most Members have the expectation that they can download content. Be prepared for lots of chargebacks if you don't provide ample warning that your content is not downloadable, and be prepared to lose sells if you do inform surfers that your content isn't downloadable.

My

Let us know how it works for you.

ADG Webmaster

Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos

Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)
Comment
BV

wtf

Join Date: Sep 2001

Posts: 10914
Share

Post
#7

05-04-2005, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

I would rather not have my members downloading my content to their hard drives is what I am trying to say.

ah ok,
I don't suggest doing that
not a good idea
Comment
Pimp Dough
Share

Post
#8

05-04-2005, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by BV

ah ok,
I don't suggest doing that
not a good idea

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.
Comment
Sly

Let's do some business!

Join Date: Sep 2004

Posts: 31379
Share

Post
#9

05-04-2005, 06:59 PM

Slap me for saying this, but I think a lot of you paysite owners are too anal about protecting your content. Yes, of course you do need some protection, but not so much that it HURTS your sales and retention. If it were me, I would whore out my content as much as I could without directly killing my sales. Exposure is good!

Of course, my opinion may be different once I actually have a paysite and run the tests...

Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.
Comment
Playa-Deak

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 1065
Share

Post
#10

05-04-2005, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

Why don't some webmasters allow members to DL their content. Afraid of them sharing eh? Well, thats not a big thing... If I was a surfer and joined your site. I wouldn't stay pass the trial version for not being able to download the vids...

DRM works well for what u want though...

I shoot Amateur Porn. Mostly Black Girls and Some White Gals... My site is www.FreakyDeak.com Check me out!
ICQ: 205-608-095
Comment
BV

wtf

Join Date: Sep 2001

Posts: 10914
Share

Post
#11

05-04-2005, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

can't give you an exact figure but i can say the majority of my complaint emails are dealing with the streaming video feeds i lease and why they can't download and save those movies like the others.

also get a few emails from surfers a week asking if the movies are downloadable, before they sign up

also dialup users totally get fucked if you don't let hem download and then play
Comment
TheSaint

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jun 2003

Posts: 991
Share

Post
#12

05-04-2005, 07:05 PM

DRM is like th nuclear option - I will not be the first to use it. If all sites were DRM, fine, I am on board.

In the meantime watermark every video, and don't worry about it. Yeah there is some sales loss, nothing you can do about it. Better to have higher sales and some pirates than no theft and low sales.

I have no signature
Comment
Pimp Dough
Share

Post
#13

05-04-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by BV

can't give you an exact figure but i can say the majority of my complaint emails are dealing with the streaming video feeds i lease and why they can't download and save those movies like the others.

also get a few emails from surfers a week asking if the movies are downloadable, before they sign up

also dialup users totally get fucked if you don't let hem download and then play

Makes sense, thanks.
Comment
The Heron

Confirmed User

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 4496
Share

Post
#14

05-04-2005, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Pimp Dough

So you think almost 100% of members save the shit to their pc? I didn't know people were so smart.

I didn't realize you were so stupid. good luck with not making money
Comment
Pimp Dough
Share

Post
#15

05-04-2005, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by The Heron

I didn't realize you were so stupid. good luck with not making money

Good one. Show me the type of money you are making then we can start a keyboard war you silly fuck.
Comment
Barefootsies

Choice is an Illusion

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 42635
Share

Post
#16

05-04-2005, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Good luck with that...most Members have the expectation that they can download content. Be prepared for lots of chargebacks if you don't provide ample warning that your content is not downloadable, and be prepared to lose sells if you do inform surfers that your content isn't downloadable.

My

Let us know how it works for you.

ADG Webmaster

Correct sire.

Members wanna jerk long after they cancelled your site, and post your shit all over the net. So make sure it's watermarked, and in a way hard to remove.

Let us know how your chargebacks work out.

Should You Email Your Members?

Link1 | Link2 | Link3

Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"
Comment
Pimp Dough
Share

Post
#17

05-04-2005, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

Correct sire.

Members wanna jerk long after they cancelled your site, and post your shit all over the net. So make sure it's watermarked, and in a way hard to remove.

Let us know how your chargebacks work out.

I am open to just watermarking. Makes sense not to over-protect.
Comment
Tat2Jr

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2001

Posts: 4882
Share

Post
#18

05-04-2005, 07:38 PM

Watermarking is the way to go. I even seed kazza with my videos. I somehow get less then 1:100 on my index page traffic.....hmmmmm...... I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that I've NEVER produced a single picture or video that didn't have my url/logo on it in the last 8 years.

I know that password protection wasn't what you were talking about, but ask around about Strongbox if you're not using it. I'm just a user of it, and have tried the other solutions. I, along with 99% of the other Strongbox users are walking billboards for that awesome software.

NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose
Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!
Comment
FTVGirls

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Oct 2002

Posts: 1052
Share

Post
#19

05-04-2005, 09:19 PM

Another solution... load your site up with so much high quality video that it would be hard to put it all on one hard drive, let alone post it on another site, and if there is trading via kazaa, all the better.

Happy members, and better retention haha
Comment
eisbaer

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2002

Posts: 184
Share

Post
#20

05-04-2005, 09:25 PM

Have a look at strongbox (www.bettercgi.com) as they have a option in there that protects your content against downloading with automated Site downloaders. So the surfer can download the pictures and videos, with a right click as usual, but if the start to rip your entire site, they will be blocked.
Thats a good compromise I think as the people will download your pics and vids anyway and this is fine with me. But people ripping the whole site is another story.
Comment
High Quality

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 5741
Share

Post
#21

05-04-2005, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Sly

Slap me for saying this, but I think a lot of you paysite owners are too anal about protecting your content. Yes, of course you do need some protection, but not so much that it HURTS your sales and retention. If it were me, I would whore out my content as much as I could without directly killing my sales. Exposure is good!

Of course, my opinion may be different once I actually have a paysite and run the tests...

Yup. Just put an intro/outro on all your videos and shit. Bangbros style with like 4s of intro is what im talkin about. I bet bangbros gets a ton of sales from filesharing even because, eventhough theres a ton of bangbros stuff being traded around, thats some HIGH QUALITY SHIT and some people, even freeloaders, are prolly willing to pay for it when they see the videos.

RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone!

Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!
Comment
bigdog

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 6964
Share

Post
#22

06-03-2005, 04:04 AM

you can always just stream your videos and offer any downloadable options
Comment

Previous template Next

Working...