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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
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    #1

    F-1 Race from last weekend..

    Damn, I'm finally watching it now, recorded it on my DVR. I must say, I dunno how it end's yet and I won't read this thread again until it's done, But damn Shummi's back .. One hell of a drive he has done to come from 14th place.
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  • thaifan99
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    • Jul 2003
    • 3029

    #2
    So whats gone one?

    He gained 3 seconds a lap since the last race?? Impossible!

    And how did he go from fastest last season to 3 seconds slower anyways?

    A lot more going on with F1 than they care to tell.
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    • Fake Nick
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      • Jul 2004
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      #3
      thaifan , there are new regulations

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      • Love Brokers
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        • Jul 2004
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        #4
        Originally posted by crockett
        Damn, I'm finally watching it now, recorded it on my DVR. I must say, I dunno how it end's yet and I won't read this thread again until it's done, But damn Shummi's back .. One hell of a drive he has done to come from 14th place.
        He comes in second place.......... Spanish driver takes it for third straight race.
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        • Fake Nick
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          • Jul 2004
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          #5
          Originally posted by Love Brokers
          He comes in second place.......... Spanish driver takes it for third straight race.

          no , Renault takes it for the third straight race

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          • thaifan99
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            • Jul 2003
            • 3029

            #6
            Originally posted by Fake Nick
            thaifan , there are new regulations
            Yes.......... so why did he lose 3 seconds a lap from last year until he got the new car? regs are same for all. tires etc.
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            • FUCK J0EL
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              • Jun 2003
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              #7
              Villeuneuve gets in 6th !!!!!!
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              • Fake Nick
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                • Jul 2004
                • 7708

                #8
                Originally posted by thaifan99
                Yes.......... so why did he lose 3 seconds a lap from last year until he got the new car? regs are same for all. tires etc.

                not everyone adapted as good to the new rules



                Bernie Ecclestone wants to slow down the race and thus its normal that the laps are slower , and like I said, some teams adapted better (faster) to the new regulations and thus perform better, you dont have to be a genius to figure that out .....
                Last edited by Fake Nick; 04-30-2005, 06:38 PM.

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                • Steve
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 6894

                  #9
                  That was one fo the most exciting races I have seen in F1 for quite some time. Schumi's move on Button was awesome. The last 12 laps, I was really expecting him to do something stupid, and punt both Alonso and himself off, but he just pressured him as much as possible, and took the first points of his season for second place.

                  Although Renault is rocking, many teams are looking tough this year - even Toyota(finally)

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                  • frankfortuna
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 1504

                    #10
                    Was this on CBS only? I didn't see it on Speed and my TiVO didn't grab it either.

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                    • Steve
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                      • Feb 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by frankfortuna
                      Was this on CBS only? I didn't see it on Speed and my TiVO didn't grab it either.
                      SpeedTV only carried the Sunday qualifying, the actual race was on CBS. I believe they are going to carry about 4-6 races this season.

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                      • frankfortuna
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1504

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steve
                        SpeedTV only carried the Sunday qualifying, the actual race was on CBS. I believe they are going to carry about 4-6 races this season.
                        Bummer, I guess I'll have to figure out how to get local channels via DirecTV.

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                        • DTK
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                          • Feb 2002
                          • 4546

                          #13
                          Yeah, ferrari is definitely back in the fight to win races. But they still lack pace a little bit and have a big deficit to overcome. Ain't gonna be like like 2002-04, that's for sure.
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                          • Steve
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                            • Feb 2001
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by thaifan99
                            Yes.......... so why did he lose 3 seconds a lap from last year until he got the new car? regs are same for all. tires etc.
                            incorrect
                            Ferrari are one of the few teams to run Bridgestone tires, almost everyone esle is running Michelins. The Michelin tires have been excellent this season.

                            Ferrari had to test like crazy the past month, attempting to catch up to all the other top teams. They cleaim they are at a disadvantage, being the only top team running Bridgestones, and that is the reason they declined to honor the testing limitations that every other F1 team has agreed to this season (in an effort to curb the ridiculous costs of operating an F1 program).

                            Of course, if Ferrari were to switch to Michelin, they wouldn't be behind the eightball, running Bridgestone.

                            And with all the new regulations introduced to curb speeds, the cars are still faster than last year. The only way they'll slow them down is to use a control tire - but that requires one tire manufacturer - and Ferrari is tied into Bridgestone. They'll never agree to it.

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                            • DTK
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 4546

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steve
                              SpeedTV only carried the Sunday qualifying, the actual race was on CBS. I believe they are going to carry about 4-6 races this season.
                              I have to say that I'm glad that CBS is carrying some races because I can see them at a decent hour. but why god?!?! Why did they have to hire Derek Daly to do color?!?!? He's no less of an idiot than when he was doing color on ESPN years ago. "Well, well, well" and "Look at the dust off those brakes!" gets old reallly fast.
                              Last edited by DTK; 04-30-2005, 06:48 PM.
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                              • DTK
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                                • Feb 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Steve
                                incorrect
                                The only way they'll slow them down is to use a control tire - but that requires one tire manufacturer - and Ferrari is tied into Bridgestone. They'll never agree to it.
                                Yep, that's really the answer to slow them down...but there's the rub. Isn't f1 all about the highest level of automotive tech? Most everything that's trickled down to passenger cars has come from F1 (and other high levels of racing).
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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by frankfortuna
                                  Was this on CBS only? I didn't see it on Speed and my TiVO didn't grab it either.
                                  yea man I gave up on it.. as my DVR didn't catch it last weekend.. but I hit my list tonight and there it was.. so that's why I'm just watching it now..

                                  Fucking awesome race has to be one of the best F-1 races in a long time. Gotta give Alonso his props he did one hell of a drive to hold Schumacher off. But damn I'm glad to see the Ferrari back in top again.. 14th to 2nd is not a bad drive at all, reminds me why I like Schumi so much.. the man has raw talent.
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                                  • fifadicto
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                                    • Sep 2004
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                                    #18
                                    alonso forever

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                                    • Steve
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                                      • Feb 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DTK
                                      Yep, that's really the answer to slow them down...but there's the rub. Isn't f1 all about the highest level of automotive tech? Most everything that's trickled down to passenger cars has come from F1 (and other high levels of racing).

                                      I'm all for high tech, but the sport has gotten to be out of control with the costs. Too many teams are tied in with manufacturers, and those companies cannot continue to blindly dump massive amounts of money into the sport at this pace.

                                      And they already restrict the technology of the cars - I think the most advnaced F1 cars were from the period of '93-'95, when they had the active suspensions, and the electronic transmissions - those Williams cars were pretty insane.

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                                      • TexasDreams
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                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 4700

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by thaifan99
                                        Yes.......... so why did he lose 3 seconds a lap from last year until he got the new car? regs are same for all. tires etc.
                                        This was the first REAL time they've had the 2005 car working with new aero parts and the carbon-fibre gearbox sorted out. And what is really hurting Shumacher to this point is tires, Bridgestone went the wrong way in developing them, and you can no longer change tires in the race. Schumacher has always been able to kick butt on his pit outlaps, but with worn tires he's not as effective. I still think he can pull off another championship in the long run, but it's gonna be awful close!
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                                        • DTK
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                                          • Feb 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Steve
                                          And they already restrict the technology of the cars - I think the most advnaced F1 cars were from the period of '93-'95, when they had the active suspensions, and the electronic transmissions - those Williams cars were pretty insane.
                                          I can't really agree wholeheartedly, because of the march of 10 years of high-end tech. But those active-ride Williams from the early 90s stuck to the road like nobody's business.
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                                          • lunchbox
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                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 129

                                            #22
                                            the bridgestone tires at imola were freakin awesome..they get better as they wear, which is why schu seemed slow for the first quarter of the race. He was eventually going 2+ seconds per lap faster then the rest, and if it wasnt for a ton of traffic (and button) slowing him down he would have probably passed alonso.

                                            He's gonna be dominating again come spain. His mistake in quali cost him a sure win.

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                                            • Thomas_AT_eroswebmaster
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                                              • Jan 2005
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                                              #23
                                              Definately an awesome race, was nice to see schumacher back on the pace, but also was good to see Alonso drive with such confidence. He's got a lot of talent, and similar to Shumi, has that unflappable attitude when under attack.

                                              I thought the look on Schumacher's face during the driver's comments after the race spoke volumes in that he knows that even if they (Ferrari) get their package together enough to make a challenge, that if he has to fight from behind, Alonso is no pushover.

                                              Also, was good to see Jaques make a decent showing, what with all the speculation about him being replaced.

                                              Thomas

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