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Chris 04-26-2005 06:17 PM

Weg says no to spam
 
For those of you that have not logged into WEGCash recently, we modified our Terms of Service on 4/17/2005. WEGCash will not accept, and will not pay commissions for, any leads generated by email solicitations. If you wish to review our amended terms and conditions you may do so here under the heading "No E-Mail Promotion Allowed". If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact [email protected]. To log in and view your stats you must enter the contact name on your account to digitally sign and accept the changes to our terms of service. If you have already done this no further action is necessary. Thank you for your support and cooperation in this matter.

vvq 04-26-2005 06:21 PM

the j4f programs convert great with AIM/AOL traffic ;)

DeanCapture 04-26-2005 06:43 PM

All sponsors say no to spam.....and then they turn right around and do business with spammers. Money hungry bitches I tell ya' :disgust

Cory W 04-26-2005 06:47 PM

Logical, easy business decision to make.

WiredGuy 04-26-2005 07:08 PM

Good for WEGCash.
WG

Kard63 04-26-2005 07:10 PM

I'm glad. More people should do it. Thanks Weg.

Damian_Maxcash 04-26-2005 07:14 PM

Whats the storey with Usenet spam?

Is it covered by the Can-Spam act?

OG LennyT 04-26-2005 07:16 PM

now if you could cover ICQ spam

swoop 04-26-2005 07:17 PM

Nicely done WEG. Think ARS and MakeFuckingMoney really stepped up on this as well.

vvq 04-26-2005 07:18 PM

gotta make the antis think you're doing something

jimmyf 04-26-2005 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
Whats the storey with Usenet spam?

Is it covered by the Can-Spam act?

a lot of the groups will report you 2 the sponsors

sharpx9 04-26-2005 08:48 PM

wegcash also fucks people out of money. For example, account sharp6900

Spunky 04-26-2005 08:49 PM

I know..I got 8 emails from them telling me so :1orglaugh

bobvegas 04-26-2005 08:52 PM

You fix em man!!!!!!

AdPatron 04-26-2005 08:52 PM

I just promote my site in my newsletter (39K subscribers) and let them check out the sponsors I feature on my site.

Veterans Day 04-26-2005 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvq
gotta make the antis think you're doing something

Exactly, behind the scenes is much different

Pipecrew 04-26-2005 08:56 PM

isnt that whole program based on mailing people every single day? I wouldnt want that business model these days!

Furious_Male 04-26-2005 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew
isnt that whole program based on mailing people every single day? I wouldnt want that business model these days!

Thats what a lot of affiliates push I imagine. I do know for the past 2 years the reps have really been putting the focus on the pay sites and away from the 4free sites.

KMR Stitch 04-26-2005 09:04 PM

I got the same email from G3X

I know for sure WEG kills EVERY Account that has anything to do with SPAM. I remember when there was a rumored whitelist to spam wegcash.

TondaB made it clear on the fourms your account will be OWNED.

Gator 04-26-2005 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63
I'm glad. More people should do it. Thanks Weg.

I agree, more should do it, but they would have no business if it weren't for spamming.

XPays 04-26-2005 09:16 PM

more biz for the foreigners who can take adult spam. another u.s. company losing a market sector thanks to overreaching laws.

Chimmy 04-26-2005 09:28 PM

Hmmm... Guess this means that the original clause in their affiliate agreement for the past few years, which stated that spam could not be used to promote wegcash sites, was just a suggestion. But now they are serious! Or is this just another suggestion, and we'll all be applauding them again in a few years when they restate it again. Confused? I am.

tony286 04-26-2005 09:30 PM

good for them

Gabriel 04-26-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Hmmm... Guess this means that the original clause in their affiliate agreement for the past few years, which stated that spam could not be used to promote wegcash sites, was just a suggestion. But now they are serious! Or is this just another suggestion, and we'll all be applauding them again in a few years when they restate it again. Confused? I am.

"No E-Mail Promotion Allowed" no exceptions. This was never in our TOS before.

Cory W 04-26-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy
Hmmm... Guess this means that the original clause in their affiliate agreement for the past few years, which stated that spam could not be used to promote wegcash sites, was just a suggestion. But now they are serious! Or is this just another suggestion, and we'll all be applauding them again in a few years when they restate it again. Confused? I am.

Some mailers are / were deemed acceptable in the past. Today, the numbers do not make sense when it comes to accepting the liability / trust.

There just isn't as much money in it. Not worth the risk. Although we did not accept "spam," in many cases the mailers were deemed compliant.

Today we are saying no to any and all cases.

Gator 04-26-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
more biz for the foreigners who can take adult spam. another u.s. company losing a market sector thanks to overreaching laws.

I don't think there's a problem with the law. I think there's a problem with people following it.

Cory W 04-26-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharpx9
wegcash also fucks people out of money. For example, account sharp6900

This business is about making money. Your account was terminated due to lack of integrity. You aren't sending us new members and we are not paying you for new members. We do not have a business relationship.

I have attempted in the past to work with you, however, you have chosen a path of consistent complaining on a webmaster board. My intuition tells me it is because we both know why.

I do my best to work with everyone.

You have a good night and good luck with your current sponsors.

Gabriel 04-26-2005 09:46 PM

Cory you are to nice.

vvq 04-26-2005 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch
I got the same email from G3X

I know for sure WEG kills EVERY Account that has anything to do with SPAM. I remember when there was a rumored whitelist to spam wegcash.

TondaB made it clear on the fourms your account will be OWNED.

promoted wegs j4f program with a few servers doing aim2aim and aim2aol for over a year with no problems. still have my weg acc. :winkwink:

Pipecrew 04-26-2005 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male
Thats what a lot of affiliates push I imagine. I do know for the past 2 years the reps have really been putting the focus on the pay sites and away from the 4free sites.

cool, i didnt even know they had websites, figured it was just those email type join sites, and they paid a buck an email or so.

SmokeyTheBear 04-26-2005 09:55 PM

Does this mean you will be dropping your own mailers/j4free programs ?

Cory W 04-26-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Does this mean you will be dropping your own mailers/j4free programs ?

No. We will continue those programs as they stand. It is not an issue of us mailing, but rather, others mailing us. A notable difference.

smokingdawn 04-26-2005 10:12 PM

Sounds good to me

DeanCapture 04-26-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gator
I don't think there's a problem with the law. I think there's a problem with people following it.

You my friend have a great point. It's also a question of integrity. All these sponsors saying that they don't allow spam yet everyone in the industry knows that they do. Some of these morons running these programs are more ruthless than their spamming affiliates and their hosting companies that let them get away with spamming. I can't wait to see more of these operations shut down by the gov. If these fucking idiots can't follow the law - they need to have their businesses and their banking accounts shut down :thumbsup

I'm not saying all sponsor programs are like this - there are a handful of honest people who run good programs - but they are few and far between.

sharpx9 04-26-2005 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
This business is about making money. Your account was terminated due to lack of integrity. You aren't sending us new members and we are not paying you for new members. We do not have a business relationship.

I have attempted in the past to work with you, however, you have chosen a path of consistent complaining on a webmaster board. My intuition tells me it is because we both know why.

I do my best to work with everyone.

You have a good night and good luck with your current sponsors.

I'm not sending new members because my account isn't active lol. I was canceled for bullshit reasons. However, I know I agreed to the TOS and part of it was, you have the right to can me at any time at your discretion. I just think it's total bullshit that I was canceled WITHOUT PAY. That's just wrong and I still feel was very dishonest.

XPays 04-26-2005 10:18 PM

it's the above ground traceable u.s. companies, without the bullshit international structure and management, findable aboveboard remove enforcing actively following the laws that are all stopping mail traffic.

the one's who followed it can't make money so the one's who do not will continue to spam the fuck out of everyone and subvert regulation, whether self-imposed or external.

it is naive to think that the problem does not stem from the same naivite that is fueling constituants to pressure legislators.

Juicy D. Links 04-26-2005 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
more biz for the foreigners who can take adult spam. another u.s. company losing a market sector thanks to overreaching laws.


Good point.

DeanCapture 04-26-2005 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
it's the above ground traceable u.s. companies, without the bullshit international structure and management, findable aboveboard remove enforcing actively following the laws that are all stopping mail traffic.

the one's who followed it can't make money so the one's who do not will continue to spam the fuck out of everyone and subvert regulation, whether self-imposed or external.

it is naive to think that the problem does not stem from the same naivite that is fueling constituants to pressure legislators.

huh? :(

SomeCreep 04-26-2005 10:21 PM

Wegcash has always said "no" to spam. Recently, they have also said "no", to any kind of email promotion.

Juicy D. Links 04-26-2005 10:21 PM

AOL , YAHOO and the other fuckers are the biggest spammers. Its true...

Cory W 04-26-2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharpx9
I'm not sending new members because my account isn't active lol. I was canceled for bullshit reasons. However, I know I agreed to the TOS and part of it was, you have the right to can me at any time at your discretion. I just think it's total bullshit that I was canceled WITHOUT PAY. That's just wrong and I still feel was very dishonest.

I have said time after time, you have never contacted me personally. You always keep it on the board.

XPays 04-26-2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
huh? :(

companies who actually care about a campaign getting more than a couple of complaints are not taking mail.

companies who do not care about a campaign getting complaints still do not care.

XPays 04-26-2005 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gator
I don't think there's a problem with the law. I think there's a problem with people following it.

btw pool.com sucks ass and is a fraudulant piece of shit. you should remove it from your sig.

anyone ever noticed that pool charges you the max bid you set even if you are the only bidder?

KMR Stitch 04-26-2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
I have said time after time, you have never contacted me personally. You always keep it on the board.


A phone call never hurts anyone =)

Cheers

Snake Doctor 04-26-2005 10:29 PM

Now if only penis enlargement and mortgage companies would do the same.

*sigh*

moneyman3203 04-26-2005 11:18 PM

i used weg about half a year ago and i was making good money, let me be the first to say "Maragret" that whore whose in charge of tos for wegcash has no idea wtf she's doing. She said there was a double email address that opt'd twice to signup for the program i was promoting (fuckcams), and i told her how i am suppose to be in charge of this, if they record by ip addy why the fuck dont they not let the person signup twice then? Good question huh? yea she ignored me and i lost 2k...i know a couple reps that work for wegcash and they even told me str8 up shes a bitch..i wouldnt be amazed if she got fired. In my 6 yrs in the adult business, never met anyone rude as her.

xiando 04-27-2005 12:25 AM

A very good choice. Spamming hurts the webmasters using a program just as much as it hurts the programs, and nobody gets any money by giving work to the abuse@ departments.


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