PPS or Rev Share?
 

Which is better and why?

The one that makes you the most money is better

PPS. It's better to take your money now and invest itrather than take a little more money a year down the line.

I prefer pps, so then i don't worry much about how long they recur. Now if you were asking me which makes more over a year promoting Dating Gold, I'd tell you to do rev share.

I can see that.

For me it matters on the PPS prices vs their revshare prices, the members section, how often members section is updated. Is the members section filled with feeds or upsells to other sites?

I earn more money with RevShare...

You might want to re-phrase that...

If you were still taking money a year down the line, you would be crazy not to go for revenue sharing. But with most sites is that you are lucky to still be seeing any income after a couple of months.

Pay Per Click.

PPS for the most part unless you really believe that a program has great stuff. It really has to be on a case by case basis just crunch the numbers.

Revshare for sites that retain. I think more cash is possible. However both work really well I just prefer revshare.

First there was Website Billing.
Later there was Ibill.
Now there is PPS.

^read the article at business voyeur :)

revshare if you plan on making money at some point.. ( and if they offer both )

heres my opinion why..

After a year if your making good coin , any program is going to evaluate your traffic. If your sending signups that aren't rebilling ( thus the sponsor isnt making money ) your going to get canned/shaved/ or dropped .

Basically a sponsor will take your gross pay and your gross net, if your pay exceeds the revshare percentage , they arent going to keep you going , there is no incentive.. do people think they will keep paying you money to send them signups just for the good PR ? be realistic now people..

I guarantee you wont find someone who makes more off pps than they do from rev-share over an extended period A) because they dont know only the program owner does B) why would a program owner tell you your making less money than you should..

If you find a sponsor who openly has large affiliates that they KNOW make more money on pps than on rev-share, then by all means let us know who these free money folks are :)

PPS, no need to worry about recurrings coming in or not.

There are a lot of risks involved with revshare, you are basically betting that the company and processor will be around for the next 2 years. If you win you will perhaps average out $35/signup rather than the $30 which you would get from pps. Also, money in hand right now is worth more than that same amount money spread over a year or 2.

These are also very important details :) :thumbsup

So who do you use PPS or Rev Share with?

All depends on the members area. ;)

So who do you use PPS or Rev Share with?

why is that?

I just use both here that way I get the best of both worlds :)

isn't it obvious?

You use both with the same sponsor?

I use both if possible and compare.

hmmm, let me do some math with EvilGeniusCash
our trial is $2.95 (if the affiliate uses the trial option) and the month rebill it $29.93
so, at 60% revshare (and we don't deduct processing fees, so it's a true 60%) that's 1.77 per trial and 17.59 per month

so, let's say you do an average of even 2 months:
1.77 + 17.59 + 17.59 = $36.95
since our trials only give access to a trial members area and they have to "upgrade" (manually or automatically) to get access to the full members area, we have a much better than average trial to first month (for those sending to the trial option). We cut down on trial-hoppers and that means the member is worth more $.

Want to increase your trial to first month with our sites? Don't use the word "get all of this for only $2.95" or mention anything about getting full access to the sites....we heavily disclaim the trial members area, so the less you mention the better as when they get to the join form, a lot will opt for just taking the 30 days even when offered the trial.

disclaimer: I can only speak for our program and not other revshare programs.

I always suggest you do about 50/50 revshare/PPS though, make some short term and some long term cash together

if it was obvious, why would I ask why?
what is wrong with waiting a little extra longer to make MORE money?

(and yes, I know you won't always make more money with revshare if the site in question sucks ass)

Rev-share, recurring money. :glugglug

I promote revshare programs almost exclusively.

I don't make anywhere close to $35 per signup, yet I still make much more money with revshare than I did when pushing PPS.

My first year and a half in this biz I pushed per sign up programs. 3 months after I started pushing a good revshare program heavily, I was able to quit my dayjob and do this full time. That was over 3 years ago.

I've thrown traffic at almost every pay per signup program out there, and I still choose to promote revshare programs that make me somewhere around 20-27 per signup.
Why?
I get 2-3 times MORE signups with the revshare programs. Same niches, same traffic, everything the same except the paycheck is bigger with the revshare programs.

Plus if I have a slow month it doesn't affect the bottom line nearly as much as it would if I pushed PPS exclusively.

:2 cents:

yes :thumbsup

Revshare is better by far with the right companies.

pps is the way I would go

If it's an honest program I'll take revshare any time :thumbsup

Totaly depends on the sponsor and what the provide and what they deliver ;)

Revshare on programs that have a solid reputation(and that is found out by a little research), PPS on the rest until you have good experience with those companies.

RevShare
You take your $30pps now.
I like my $70-$80 per sale even if i have to wait.

Not true. Maybe 20%-30% will rebill and an even lower percentage will rebill for multiple months. On top of that, those that rebill for multiple months will eventually cancel and so you have to keep making sales in order to maintain a certain rebill level. I've only ever seen 1 revshare sponsor claim that you can make as much with them as a PPS sponsor. Most revshare sponsors will avoid answering the question but when pressed hard will admit that you won't.

Definately... I've never made as much in rebills as a good PPS sponsor. But once you build it up, having a couple K a month in rebills is damn nice, especially in the slow periods.

PS. I'm not trying to be a hard ass.. I LOVE evilgeniuscash and some of my other revshare sponsors.

The only problem I see with Rev share is they come and go pretty often but if the company is solid it couldnt hurt to try em out.

They do ALOT better than 20-30% rebills.

Also here's a question nobody ever seems to ask. The companies that PAY you PER SALE....how do they make their money?

Recurring.

Actually more PPS will go under than revshare companies....simply because the revshare company isn't paying out money they don't have.

Some do.. most don't... In fact, the last I heard the industry average rebill period was down to around 2 months.. There's always exceptions of course.

TheDoc from evilgenius actually did a post a few months back that discussed how companies make their money. And if they relied on just rebill they wouldn't exist.. they do it off their own traffic sources.. type in traffic, consoles, upsells, the fact that a good percentage of the traffic we all send them won't get credited to us do to technical issues, and many other ways.

Rev Share for Sure!

Unless the website/program has suck ass retention.

We have a bunch of members from the year 1999.
Over 60 rebills... This is where the money is.
This is how we afford to give our webmasters $1,000 Bonuses every year.

PPS is for suckers.... BTW we also offer PPS if you insist :winkwink:

usually I would say pps, since I have seen some of the members areas out there and it's not even funny!

thats why we take great care of ours, it's updated manually every week, and each update gets a personal touch and every member is sure to be taken care of.

I've had a webmaster make one signup and disappear on me, that signup is still active, some 2 months later

so basically it depends on the sponsor, some are PPS for sure