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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-20-2005 11:04 AM

Tragic domain story
 
A friend of mine owned a domain LAMER.COM.


Now he was the original owner of the domain and had for a long time.

Out of the blue this guy started calling him wanting to buy it. After a few days he talked and amoungst friends they called the guy that called almost ever 3 hours "Lamer" since he wouldnt take no for an answer.

SO finally my friend gets on the phone and say awright I will sell it to ya for $30,000.
Lamer within minutes had papers faxed money goes through escrow done deal. Everyone was happy my friend was stked that he actually sold the dmain fr such a high price.

A couple days later LAMER.COM is typed in by one of the IT guys.
Lamer turned out to be a huge Cosmetics company in France.

Alot more would have been on the table with some research.

Cassie 04-20-2005 11:07 AM

30k isn't bad....

brand0n 04-20-2005 11:08 AM

__ouch...

Verbal 04-20-2005 11:09 AM

I think he was lucky to get $30k ... nothing tragic about that

Manowar 04-20-2005 11:09 AM

Now that's the definition of OWNED.

he should have done some research, got higher.

Relish XXX 04-20-2005 11:10 AM

Why is it tragic your friend was really pleased with $30k. Lamer.com isnt a great domain name.

Tango 04-20-2005 11:11 AM

well its called both buyer and seller beware
always know what your buying and what your selling
most importantly - to whom your selling to or buying from

soukee 04-20-2005 11:11 AM

... I want 30k for a domain too :helpme :-)

8 Characters 04-20-2005 11:14 AM

SO let's all go out hunting for french cosmetic company names

Jman 04-20-2005 11:15 AM

Your friend should buy all of us a few Pints ;-)

azguy 04-20-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
Now that's the definition of OWNED.

Seriously!

DomBuyer 04-20-2005 11:16 AM

Nothing tragic about that. Good payday for that lame name.

Every heard of WIPO?

TheJimmy 04-20-2005 11:16 AM

30k is fine for a domain like that...sure, he COULD have gotten higher.....

woulda shoulda coulda...

life moves on, tell him to build something with that 30k that makes him 30k a month and it won't be so tragic! :)

ricks 04-20-2005 11:22 AM

la mer is a division of estee lauder

ricks 04-20-2005 11:27 AM

i still dont think $30k is tragic though, it is a corporate name, not a brand, not sure how much value it would have to them anyhow

he probably could have gotten $50k though

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-20-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Nothing tragic about that. Good payday for that lame name.

Every heard of WIPO?

Hhe yes arent they part of Nortel as the East Indies division?
I built there first website. No Joke along with some or Nortel's.

Screaming 04-20-2005 11:37 AM

well it kinda sucks but 30k isnt anything bad to recieve

DomBuyer 04-20-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Hhe yes arent they part of Nortel as the East Indies division?
I built there first website. No Joke along with some or Nortel's.

Alien, are you on crack?

DateDoc 04-20-2005 11:39 AM

This is when paying attention in school pays off. La Mer is french for the The Sea. Would have made sense to look and see what was up with french companies but 30K isnt bad. I'd still be happy with it.

chodadog 04-20-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Nothing tragic about that. Good payday for that lame name.

Every heard of WIPO?

Would they really be able to do anything about lamer.com? I mean, the owner clearly had no idea who the La Mer even were, so it's not like he was squatting. Plus the fact that is is an normal word unrelated to the company.

ricks 04-20-2005 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chodadog
Would they really be able to do anything about lamer.com? I mean, the owner clearly had no idea who the La Mer even were, so it's not like he was squatting. Plus the fact that is is an normal word unrelated to the company.

it would have to be used in bad faith, like pointing to site selling cosmetics for instance

DomBuyer 04-20-2005 11:57 AM

It wouldn't have to be used in bad faith: They could wipo you and ask questions later. While current decisions are favoring the victims of reverse hijacking more and more, they could easily take that name away under the right circumstances.

chodadog 04-20-2005 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
it would have to be used in bad faith, like pointing to site selling cosmetics for instance

Yeah. So if the guy had done his research, and then made some dumbass site about a bunch of lamers.. you know.. videos and pictures of stupid people doing lame stuff... then he could have held out for more. I mean, i wouldn't be complaining about 30k, but i'd be a litlte disappointed and mad at myself if i were in that guy's situation.

infecto 04-20-2005 12:00 PM

$30k sounds great imo. I am not saying it would have made it buy they could ahve sued for it lol.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-20-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Alien, are you on crack?

No.
But...
I just looked at wipo.com...
Ummm obviously not the same WIPO that I did some stuff with LOL:)

The WIPO I did biz with was Nortel's umm Outsourcing Plant in India.

Oh and WIPO they didnt have a chance.
He was the Original registrant.
And Lamer is quite an American term to broad to call in WIPO.

DarkJedi 04-20-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassie
30k isn't bad....

Indeed. Good deal.

xiando 04-20-2005 12:06 PM

You got $30,000 for a domain and you feel ripped off?? OMG. greedy!!

Slick 04-20-2005 12:17 PM

The thing is that you could've said $50K and they could've told you to forget it and you'd be without anything.

I'm trying to make you feel better, ha ha.

DomBuyer 04-20-2005 12:25 PM

A lot of you guys don't seem to understand that if you're squatting on a brand which has global trademarks, you can have the name taken away from you without bad faith. Up until recently, the decisions favored big companies, mostly American ones, and you didn't need to do anything but just own the name to get nailed.

The very fact that your friend negotiated with them IS bad faith and they could have taken your friend to WIPO and got the name for $1500 application fee.

Tell your friend he should be happy as a pig in do do.

Dirty D 04-20-2005 12:48 PM

Greed is UGLY


30k for a domain name is more than fair.

I bet your friend never made a dime from the site until it was sold...

I will sell any of my domains (except for my paysites) for 30k

mardigras 04-20-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
A lot of you guys don't seem to understand that if you're squatting on a brand which has global trademarks, you can have the name taken away from you without bad faith. Up until recently, the decisions favored big companies, mostly American ones, and you didn't need to do anything but just own the name to get nailed.

The very fact that your friend negotiated with them IS bad faith and they could have taken your friend to WIPO and got the name for $1500 application fee.

Tell your friend he should be happy as a pig in do do.

Really doubt this could have happened in this case since lamer is a dictionary word. :2 cents:

detoxed 04-20-2005 01:11 PM

So the guy owns a companys name and SHOULD HAVE extorted them for way more than the domain is worth? right...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-20-2005 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed
So the guy owns a companys name and SHOULD HAVE extorted them for way more than the domain is worth? right...

Yes.
It's called business.

Not knowing or not being informed can be costly.
A little research in understanding value is important.

On the flip side I think he got robbed.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-20-2005 01:24 PM

I own ialien.com I know its valuable.

But to whom is the question. I know what it's worth to me and so far its above 10K.

I have few ther valuable domains as well I know the value of each.

paxton 04-20-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
Really doubt this could have happened in this case since lamer is a dictionary word. :2 cents:

:error :error :error

That would mean that no word could serve as a trademark if that word was also found in the dictionary. This would be a nasty surprise for such companies as Apple computers, Delta airlines, Dell computers, etc.

Past rulings have clearly shown that dictionary words are not automatically generic in nature.

As for the tragedy at hand here, I agree that nobody wants to leave money on the table. But $30,000 is a premium price to be paid for that domain. I would be happy.

Adultnet 04-20-2005 02:34 PM

lol 30k for this domain is some good cash anyways you should always check out this deals since people won't just give you this amounts of cash if this won't be a good deal for them.. but 30k is a really good sum for the domain.


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