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tottenham 01-09-2002 04:36 AM

Meta Tags, Keywords etc.
 
Can anybody help Search Engines dont seem to be picking up keywords etc. since I added some new keywords. Tried everything to sort out but I cant do it. Any body know why this is. www.Dirty-Devil.com

pornjacker 01-09-2002 04:51 AM

A lot of search engines don't read meta keywords so maybe you could try putting them in image tags

UKDan 01-09-2002 04:51 AM

I didn't look too closely over your page but a few obvious things: add alt tags to your images, use the H tag where possible, and try to add more keywords at the top of the page, preferably not in a table.

baddog 01-09-2002 04:54 AM

well, the problem is two-fold. First off, not all SE use keywords (META tags) for ranking sites, so now use link popularity, in other words, how many other sites have links back to you. Google is one of these types of SE.

For the SE that do use META tags, you can have up to 1000 bytes for your keyword tag, and you only have about 530, so you are only utilizing 53% of what you are allowed, so you may want to add some more, but be careful not to use the same words or phrases more than 7 times.

pornjacker 01-09-2002 05:03 AM

Quote:

originally posted by UKDan
use the H tag where possible
Excuse my ignorance but what's a H tag ?

UKDan 01-09-2002 05:09 AM

It's header text. h1 - largest, h6 smallest. Same effect obviously as using font size= but SE's like it more.

pornjacker 01-09-2002 05:35 AM

he he thanks Dan I should have guessed that but I'm running a new brain in http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif
I didn't know they preferred larger text sizes for the headings but that makes good sense so the engine knows for sure that its a main page topic its looking at.

tottenham 01-09-2002 06:33 AM

Cheers Dan thanks for the tips all I ,ve got to do now is find out what alt tags are! changed H tags already good tip. Anway sit back and enjoy quality football tonight son COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!!

UKDan 01-09-2002 06:56 AM

Check out this page, it's pretty helpful for HTML tags: http://www.cc.ukans.edu/~acs/docs/ot...ML_quick.shtml

UKDan 01-09-2002 06:57 AM

BTW, not sure if the Norwich/Chelsea replay is tonight but if so, hopefully we'll kick their arse. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

pornjacker 01-09-2002 08:32 AM

Quote:

originally posted by tottenham
all I ,ve got to do now is find out what alt tags are!
Its just a way of inserting text into your graphics
Code:

<img src="http://www.dirty-devil.com/banner2.jpg" border="0" alt="adult sex toys" width="450" height="60">
The above html would add "adult sex toys" to your main banner.

Most search engines index these text tags and will increase your chances of being found

the text is displayed in a small popup box when you hold your mouse over the image.

htraps 01-09-2002 08:53 AM

instead of meta keywords, text within document is far better.. ways of doing this without being caught as a cheat id like to here..

Ive just tried to move my keywords down into a table with absolute positioning about 3' off to the left of the page.. anyone reckon search engine will have a problem with DIV align's?

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Dopy 01-09-2002 09:12 AM

Hell after all the crap given out last time you spammed this site I thought at least you would have taken design advice. Looks to me like all SE's have to look at is a .pl file and a whole bunch of irrelevance.



eRock 01-09-2002 09:25 AM

First, I would try for keywords that aren't as populer as "Adult Sex Toys" or whatever. It will be hard to get a good ranking w/ those words/terms. And whatever your keywords ya use I would also include them in your title tag.

Also, for your meta keywords I would reccomend a space after your comas...not sure how much that will help but it definitely won't hurt.

Ask to trade links with some webmasters that run similar sites. Link popularity only helps when it's with similar sites w/ similar keywords & content.

tottenham 01-09-2002 09:49 AM

cheers everyone so far, I do appreciate the help. Please keep the tips coming.

tottenham 01-09-2002 12:27 PM

just like to say made the changes to the site fingers crossed it will do some good. Thanks to every one that helped. Keep the ideas coming please. Also If any one has any good ideas on search engine submission companies or any good ideas on how to get hits I will be very grateful.

baddog 01-09-2002 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornjacker:
I didn't know they preferred larger text sizes for the headings
Actually, I have never read anywhere that a spider gives a rats ass about the size of the font. If that were the case, there would be little point in image tags, or alt tags. A spider will know it is a main page by the fact that the page is called index.html and other hi-tech methods like that. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

eRock 01-09-2002 12:45 PM

Yes it's true...some SEs like the big H1 tag at the top (if it's one of your key words or phrases)...it will definitely help w/ your ranking for your keyword(s).

I've heard that a lot...I'm surprised you've never seen that before...

baddog 01-09-2002 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock:
First, I would try for keywords that aren't as populer as "Adult Sex Toys" or whatever. It will be hard to get a good ranking w/ those words/terms. And whatever your keywords ya use I would also include them in your title tag.

Also, for your meta keywords I would reccomend a space after your comas...not sure how much that will help but it definitely won't hurt.

Ask to trade links with some webmasters that run similar sites. Link popularity only helps when it's with similar sites w/ similar keywords & content.

Ok, the only thing correct about this suggestion was the last recommendation, regarding link popularity. He is also correct about using your keywords in your title tag, and the keywords should also be in your content tag.

As far as Adult Sex Toys being good keywords or not, it would be a little stupid to use keywords like Aardvarks Odd Ark when you are looking for people seeking Adult Sex Toys. Of course you have to include words and phrases that you anticipate a surfer inputting to a SE search box, that is what makes them keywords. For the record, META tags are not cheating, but if you use the same words too many times, or make the keyword tag too long, it will nullify the tag and the spider will by-pass it as spam.

As far as adding spaces after the commas in you tags, wrong. Commas are used to separate phrases, spaces separate words. For example: "adult,sex,toys,adult sex toys,dildo,marital aids,aids" would be the proper method. You are using the words adult, sex, and toys, and you also have the phrase "adult sex toys."

One more thing, each META tag should be on one line.

baddog 01-09-2002 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock:
Yes it's true...some SEs like the big H1 tag at the top (if it's one of your key words or phrases)...it will definitely help w/ your ranking for your keyword(s).

I've heard that a lot...I'm surprised you've never seen that before...

Well, I have only been doing this for 6 years, so there is still a lot I do not know, and in fact, SE are constantly changing what it is they look for, the most recent being the almighty dollar.

As I am always looking to learn, perhaps you can give me an example of one SE that likes the big H1 tag at the top

eRock 01-09-2002 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog:
As far as Adult Sex Toys being good keywords or not, it would be a little stupid to use keywords like Aardvarks Odd Ark when you are looking for people seeking Adult Sex Toys. Of course you have to include words and phrases that you anticipate a surfer inputting to a SE search box, that is what makes them keywords.

As far as adding spaces after the commas in you tags, wrong. Commas are used to separate phrases, spaces separate words. For example: "adult,sex,toys,adult sex toys,dildo,marital aids,aids" would be the proper method. You are using the words adult, sex, and toys, and you also have the phrase "adult sex toys."

Well...obviously you wouldn't be using Ardvark for sex toys. I was suggesting using something NOT as popular as "adult sex toys"
cuz I'm sure that is a heavily searched term for sex toys & the like making it very tough to get a good ranking & keep it.

As far as the comma/space thing...like I mentioned above, I wasn't sure if that would help or not, but surely wouldn't hurt.

And despite the sarcasm, I'll see what I can find for you regarding the H1 when I have a minute to look for it. I'm in no hurry to prove myself. If ya don't wanna believe me...suit yourself.

Dopy 01-09-2002 01:21 PM

Amazing

Post upon post rattling on about H tags and shit yet not one person has visited this site and spotted the most important missing ingredients.

baddog 01-09-2002 01:31 PM

Dopy, and what would that be in your opinion? For the record, I have visited the site before making my first post on the subject.

eRock, sarcasm? do not believe you? Neither. Just never heard of it before, and as stated above, am always eager to learn something new.

eRock 01-09-2002 01:40 PM

Oh, okay...I thought you were just giving me a hard time... http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif
Lemme see what I can find...

tottenham 01-10-2002 04:15 AM

well dopey, e rock what is it?

eRock 01-10-2002 01:07 PM

Here ya go: http://www.searchengines.com/search_...tatistics.html

tottenham 01-10-2002 03:03 PM

Well done eRock knew you wasnt a blagger. Well Dopey lets hear it!

DatsMyStapler 03-28-2002 02:00 AM

1. Do spiders notice keywords in a url if the url has no dashes between words. Like www.fuckslutcum.com as opposed to www.fuck-slut-cum.com. Will the spider look at them any differently?
2. Another think. Being that most all adult site index.htm pages are little more than warning pages with no real text in the body ... How aside from H,alt, keyword, description and title tags can you go about making your pages relevance known to the spider?
3.Also, since you must have all of your long legal warning jargain that is unrelated to the actual theme that you hope to represent to the search engine and spiders, doesnt all that text knock down your keyword wieght and make your page seem ambiguous? I have my legal notice in a scrolling text field in the middle of my page. Is there a tag that i can include somewhere so that the spider ignores that particular text field or any particular piece of text?

DatsMyStapler 03-28-2002 02:03 AM

And how to I get, "I am probably spamming" out from underneath my username?

hyper 03-28-2002 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatsMyStapler
And how to I get, "I am probably spamming" out from underneath my username?
i took it out for you :thumbsup

AWC 03-28-2002 02:58 AM

You can use css to alter the size of output for your H tags.

A standard H1 looks like some kid with a 500 pound crayon did the page.

Try something like this in a cascading style sheet:

H1 {font-family: vedana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 12px; color: #FFFFFF; }

Freeway 03-28-2002 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tottenham
Can anybody help Search Engines dont seem to be picking up keywords etc. since I added some new keywords. Tried everything to sort out but I cant do it. Any body know why this is. www.Dirty-Devil.com
Here is some news you can use:

================ TITLE ================

? Your title is:

Adult sex toy shop selling vibrators, dildos, lingerie

? Your title length is good.

? Warning: Your title might contain too many keywords. Some search engines might penalize it and skip your web page.

============== KEYWORDS ===============

? The keywords are:

1. "sex toys
2. shop
3. cheap
4. toy store
5. uk
6. adult
7. lingerie
8. vibrators
9. dildos
10. marital aids
11. aids
12. bondage
13. lesbian
14. gay
15. xxx
16. adult videos
17. lotions
18. creams
19. orgasm
20. kinky
21. free
22. erotic
23. ">

? Tip: HotBot only takes the first 75 letters into account. You already use 190 letters so you should place the most important keywords at the beginning.

? Warning: Don't use every word you can think of as keyword. Search engines can penalize you for this by giving you poor rankings. Too many keywords can dilute the effectiveness of your keywords/phrases.

? Warning: The keyword "bondage" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

? Warning: The keyword "lesbian" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

? Warning: The keyword "gay" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

? Warning: The keyword "xxx" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

? Warning: The keyword "free" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

? Warning: The keyword "erotic" belongs to the Top 150 search terms. This means that it's very difficult to achieve a top ranking for that keyword.

============= DESCRIPTION =============

? Your description is:

"dirty-devil.com adult sex toy shop selling vibrators, dildos, lingerie, bondage, lesbian, gay sex toys all to make you have orgasms. Fulfill all your sexual fantasies.Orgasm with adult toys">

? Warning: Your description tag is too long for the search engines AltaVista, HotBot and Lycos.

? Your description contains 10 keywords. This is very good.

=========== IMAGE ALT TEXTS ===========

Keyword density in image alternative texts: 38,5 %. Many search engines take the keyword density into account so this is a very good result.

================ OTHER ================

? Attention: You use the <META HTTP-EQUIV=KEYWORDS> command. Some search engines can only read the <META NAME=KEYWORDS> command. They will not be able to find your keywords. Save your document with VSE Be Found to convert it to the most compatible format.

? Attention: You use the <META HTTP-EQUIV=DESCRIPTION> command. Some search engines can only read the <META NAME=DESCRIPTION> command. They will not be able to find your description. Save your document with VSE Be Found to convert it to the most compatible format.

? You have many words on your web page (about 227 words). This means that search engines have a lot of text to index which is very good.


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