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Platinum Lantern 04-08-2005 08:18 PM

The Problem With America
 
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000185.html

Now I would like to say first and foremost, I am a Muslim.
My religion/way of life is Islam.

Allah is not the name of the "muslim god"
Allah is actually to words put together

In Arabic

Al means The
Lah means God

Therfore Allah means The God

To see this shirt....
And to take a further look at the political cartoon below on this page, I get the impression that segment of Americans with the ability to think objectively and unbiased should take their minds out of the American state of thinking..

And think about the world as a whole....
And about the Human Race as a whole..
And every man being equal....

We all know the deal with Iraq
Bush said they had WMD's zero have been found
Bush said they had chemical warheads zero have been found
BUT BUT
The SUPER EXPENSIVE war on terror is justified because Saddam was a really bad guy and oppressed his people

I digress..
Needless to say, I'm disgusted by this

who 04-08-2005 08:21 PM

You got oil. Hand it over or die, terrorist.

L0rdJuni0r 04-08-2005 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .?.
You got oil. Hand it over or die, terrorist.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

detoxed 04-08-2005 08:23 PM

wah

wah

wah

Rochard 04-08-2005 08:28 PM

Iraq fire on US planes enforcing UN no fly zone.
Iraq government taken out in two weeks.

The next time a country thinks about firing on a US warplane perhaps they'll think twice.

sandman! 04-08-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard
Iraq fire on US planes enforcing UN no fly zone.
Iraq government taken out in two weeks.

The next time a country thinks about firing on a US warplane perhaps they'll think twice.


i think the UN no fly zone was bullshit.


Telling a country that they cant fly planes in thier own fucking country is bullshit no matter how you explain it.

smack 04-08-2005 08:31 PM

don't be so uptight. if you let topical humor offend you, you are a sad miserable person.

Platinum Lantern 04-08-2005 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard
Iraq fire on US planes enforcing UN no fly zone.
Iraq government taken out in two weeks.

The next time a country thinks about firing on a US warplane perhaps they'll think twice.


Rochard, I'm enforcing a no presence zone on you, you are not permitted to be in your kitchen or your back yard

jukeboxfrank 04-08-2005 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!
i think the UN no fly zone was bullshit.


Telling a country that they cant fly planes in thier own fucking country is bullshit no matter how you explain it.

Its called losing.......The outcome of the first gulf fuk up....and to keep him from killing off the people in the north....

Love Brokers 04-08-2005 08:36 PM

Is the 72 Virgins at your side for real after blowing up a bunch of people? If so, I may convert since everyone says I'm goin to hell for being in this business. I'll go over to Syria, or Iran and set off a mini nuke when I think my times is near. Perhaps I'll get twice as many virgins if I slice off some man's head while he screams for his life. Huh, huh, huh?

Jace 04-08-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smack
don't be so uptight. if you let topical humor offend you, you are a sad miserable person.

while i agree with the original points in the thread, i tend to agree more with this...if someone is going to base their beliefs and practices from a cartoon, are they someone you would be associating with anyway?

Jace 04-08-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Brokers
Is the 72 Virgins at your side for real after blowing up a bunch of people? If so, I may convert since everyone says I'm goin to hell for being in this business. I'll go over to Syria, or Iran and set off a mini nuke when I think my times is near. Perhaps I'll get twice as many virgins if I slice off some man's head while he screams for his life. Huh, huh, huh?

i think that is for extremist muslims

nmcog 04-08-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!
i think the UN no fly zone was bullshit.

eh? There was no "nofly" zone passed by UN security council....
Thats something done by the US & UK only.

Jace 04-08-2005 08:38 PM

i have said it before and I will say it again

osama bin laden is to muslim, as george bush is to christian

an extremist is an extremist, doesn't matter where your from or what religion...and george bush is a christian extremist

jukeboxfrank 04-08-2005 08:38 PM

72 Virgins... So that is what has become of all the virgin sacrificers over the years.

WarChild 04-08-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern
Rochard, I'm enforcing a no presence zone on you, you are not permitted to be in your kitchen or your back yard

I think you're missing one important point: Losers don't enforce anything on the winners. That's why they're the losers.

nmcog 04-08-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nmcog
eh? There was no "nofly" zone passed by UN security council....
Thats something done by the US & UK only.

from http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...q/flyindex.htm

In April 1991, claiming a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688, the US, UK and France began to patrol the skies over northern Iraq, excluding Iraqi aircraft from this zone. The same powers started to enforce a second ?no fly? zone in southern Iraq a few months later. Announced as a means to protect Iraqi Kurds (in the north) and Iraq?s Shi?a population (in the south), the no-fly has offered dubious humanitarian protection, while engaging Iraq?s government in ceaseless military pressure. France eventually withdrew from the no-fly process. The US-UK turned no-fly into an even more aggressive operation after 1998, when ?more robust rules of engagement? have led to regular bombing of ground targets and substantial civilian casualties.

Prowler 04-08-2005 08:41 PM

America owns you.

Spunky 04-08-2005 08:42 PM

:mad: Blame Canada

jukeboxfrank 04-08-2005 08:42 PM

America owns me I can tell from my tax bill.

Love Brokers 04-08-2005 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX
i have said it before and I will say it again

osama bin laden is to muslim, as george bush is to christian

an extremist is an extremist, doesn't matter where your from or what religion...and george bush is a christian extremist

A better analogy would be Osama is to Islam as the Ku KLux Klan is to Christianity. George Bush makes me want to vomit. And I am right of center. We are now in a fucking quagmyer (spelling?) in Iraq and I am nearly brought to tears each night I see the numbers of soldiers being killed over there! :(

Platinum Lantern 04-08-2005 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX
i have said it before and I will say it again

osama bin laden is to muslim, as george bush is to christian

an extremist is an extremist, doesn't matter where your from or what religion...and george bush is a christian extremist


Co-sign....
I look at kind loving people such as Muhammed Ali and Kareem Addul-Jabbar as better examples of muslim men.

I cannot associate anything negative with any of them.

Platinum Lantern 04-08-2005 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Brokers
A better analogy would be Osama is to Islam as the Ku KLux Klan is to Christianity. George Bush makes me want to vomit. And I am right of center. We are now in a fucking quagmyer (spelling?) in Iraq and I am nearly brought to tears each night I see the numbers of soldiers being killed over there! :(

I feel your sorrow...
I was raised in a small community with a poor economic outlook, the people I grew up with the people I call my best friends are in the military right now.
I pray to God that they will come home safely and will not be put in a combat situation, or be given an order to shoot.

I also feel the sorrow of the iraqi children who were killed, and the survivors who were made orphans in Operation Iraqi Freedom

smack 04-08-2005 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX
while i agree with the original points in the thread, i tend to agree more with this...if someone is going to base their beliefs and practices from a cartoon, are they someone you would be associating with anyway?


for me it comes down to freedom of expression. while the shirt may be offensive, and may disagree with how i feel, it is that person's right to express their feelings.

if this shirt still offends some people reading this, take solace in the fact that the only people that will be wearing those shirts are fat, stupid, ignorant rednecks anyways.

WarChild 04-08-2005 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack

if this shirt still offends some people reading this, take solace in the fact that the only people that will be wearing those shirts are fat, stupid, ignorant rednecks anyways.

So you wouldn't have a problem with somebody thinking all Muslims are urine-smelling-sand-dwelling-filth-creatures, right? I mean one good generalization deservers another.

smack 04-08-2005 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
So you wouldn't have a problem with somebody thinking all Muslims are urine-smelling-sand-dwelling-filth-creatures, right? I mean one good generalization deservers another.


naw they can think what they want. it's not my place to force my ideals or thoughts on them.

BRISK 04-08-2005 09:00 PM

Pride is the sin from which all others arise

WarChild 04-08-2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack
naw they can think what they want. it's not my place to force my ideals or thoughts on them.

I don't think that way, personally. I was just trying to point out that it's kind of silly to make fun of people that generalize about others, by generalizing about them.

smack 04-08-2005 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
I don't think that way, personally. I was just trying to point out that it's kind of silly to make fun of people that generalize about others, by generalizing about them.


well of course it is, but gross over simplifacation is the moniker for humanity. myself included. :winkwink:

WarChild 04-08-2005 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack
well of course it is, but gross over simplifacation is the moniker for humanity. myself included. :winkwink:

Good point.

Rob 04-08-2005 09:12 PM

If you're brown we'll bomb your town. Get over it.


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