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DomBuyer 04-08-2005 08:20 AM

Wink.net: I guarantee you I will get $15k-$25k for this name
 
One word dot nets are one of the best places to park your money right now. Mark my words.

Some of the "experts" in this biz think they're a waste of money. Selling prices for one word .nets (ONLY) are creeping up steadily.

Companies that aren't especially concerned about traffic, but are more interested in branding, will choose a .net every time over all other alternate non .com extenstions--especially if it's short.

fun.net, bank.net, frames.net, push.net...that kind of thing.

Do not put your money into any two worders that aren't incredibly popular phrases such as downloadmusic.net.

About a year ago, I sold funk.net for a couple of grand. What a mistake.

A year ago, I had a chance to buy find.net for $7500. Now it's a multiple of that.

So all you guys that start investment threads asking how to get into this game, here's your starter thread.

Contact owners, start by offering a grand or two, and you could see quite a multiple in the coming months as more .nets start selling. It's one of the few areas of the domain biz that is neglected, because most buyers are focused--rightly--on traffic names.

But the web ain't going away, and people can buy or generate traffic to send to a branded .net.

I bought wink.net a fraction of what I will get for it. :2 cents: :2 cents:

pornstar2pac 04-08-2005 08:22 AM

are there any one word .net that are dropping daily?

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
are there any one word .net that are dropping daily?

All the time, but the drop game will never pay for an inexperienced player.

Contact owners direct. That's where you make multiples in this business. :2 cents:

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 08:26 AM

One important thing: Always check out what is operating on the .com before you consider the value of the .net.

xclusive 04-08-2005 08:27 AM

There is no money in .net...






If your lucky you might even get 30k they have been rising for awhile

adonthenet 04-08-2005 08:28 AM

any traffic? im looking for domains with traffic.

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
any traffic? im looking for domains with traffic.

Virtually no traffic on this domain. That's the other thing: You're buying cheap, because owners have been told .net's with low traffic is worthless, but that's only to speculators, not to brand managers.

I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to start a dating site at wink.net, especially if I couldn't get the .com for less than $30-50k (right now it's dead).

You're not going to get any cheap .net's that have substantial traffic. Find the ones where the owners fed up with its lack of ppc revenue. :2 cents:

who 04-08-2005 08:36 AM

I sail iwank.net ch33p.

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 08:38 AM

DK is most notable for saying that when you brand on a .net, you're handing 25% of your customers to the .com, and that is absolutely true, but this is mostly known by people in the domain business, not by brand and IT people. The branding potential of a slick .net can gain legitimacy and traffic by virtue of its brevity and memorability.

The gap between .com prices and .net prices means a company might be willing to brand on the .net and use their saved money to get people to the site.

shuki 04-08-2005 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
One word dot nets are one of the best places to park your money right now. Mark my words.

Some of the "experts" in this biz think they're a waste of money. Selling prices for one word .nets (ONLY) are creeping up steadily.

Companies that aren't especially concerned about traffic, but are more interested in branding, will choose a .net every time over all other alternate non .com extenstions--especially if it's short.

fun.net, bank.net, frames.net, push.net...that kind of thing.

Do not put your money into any two worders that aren't incredibly popular phrases such as downloadmusic.net.

About a year ago, I sold funk.net for a couple of grand. What a mistake.

A year ago, I had a chance to buy find.net for $7500. Now it's a multiple of that.

So all you guys that start investment threads asking how to get into this game, here's your starter thread.

Contact owners, start by offering a grand or two, and you could see quite a multiple in the coming months as more .nets start selling. It's one of the few areas of the domain biz that is neglected, because most buyers are focused--rightly--on traffic names.

But the web ain't going away, and people can buy or generate traffic to send to a branded .net.

I bought wink.net a fraction of what I will get for it. :2 cents: :2 cents:


:thumbsup

Kristian 04-08-2005 08:56 AM

Good tips as always. Cheers!

Luc 04-08-2005 10:11 AM

sorry to bust your bubble, but no chance i hell you'll get $25k for that
domain anytime soon. maybe $5k tops. $10k is a real stretch. $15k, sure
but back in 99, $25k, not even in 99.

the bottom line is this, if you have to spend millions on branding a name,
you might as well be branding winkerwinks.biz.uk and people will go there.

a good domain receives targeted typein traffic, so if i own "bigtits.com" (
which I don't), i can be pretty sure i'll get a lot of visitors typing in that
domain to see "big tits". i don't have to market the crap out of that
domain to see $$, it will make $$ on its own with no branding and no
marketing.

seems like you're trying to convince yourself here.

Luc 04-08-2005 10:15 AM

forgot to add this in:

if i buy a .net, no matter how great it is, i'll still have to put a LOT of
money into advertising to get people to go there, and even THAN they'll
still be typing in the .com TLD to get to my site. so why would i buy wink.net
for $25k if I can buy winkywinks.net for $6.85 (reg fee), i'd still have to
brand and market both!

Dirty F 04-08-2005 10:15 AM

Why is it worth that again? No traffic...no type ins (.net)...
Somebody please for once explain these prices to me. I have a feeling the names itself are worthless and its just a game of buying and selling for crazy prices. I mean the product itself doesnt really matter, it could be a pen or a piece of paper. Know what i mean?

Dirty F 04-08-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
forgot to add this in:

if i buy a .net, no matter how great it is, i'll still have to put a LOT of
money into advertising to get people to go there, and even THAN they'll
still be typing in the .com TLD to get to my site. so why would i buy wink.net
for $25k if I can buy winkywinks.net for $6.85 (reg fee), i'd still have to
brand and market both!

EXACTLY what i think.
wink.biz is possible free and 6 bucks. Now i can buy that and spend 25k on advertising or i can buy wink.net for 25k and still need to spend a similar amount on advertising. Does the surfer really care if its .biz or .net? Is it really worth 25k? I think not, so thats why i think its a game of buying and selling and its not about the domain itself, it couldve been any random product.

pornstar2pac 04-08-2005 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
EXACTLY what i think.
wink.biz is possible free and 6 bucks. Now i can buy that and spend 25k on advertising or i can buy wink.net for 25k and still need to spend a similar amount on advertising. Does the surfer really care if its .biz or .net? Is it really worth 25k? I think not, so thats why i think its a game of buying and selling and its not about the domain itself, it couldve been any random product.


I would buy yjr . net for $25,000 because it's worth that much.

you can buy .biz and spend $25,000 and end up losing on it

Luc 04-08-2005 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I would buy yjr . net for $25,000 because it's worth that much.

you can buy .biz and spend $25,000 and end up losing on it

uhh, sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

what makes it worth $25k?

i just sold posters.net, which i think is MUCH better than wink.net for
under $10k. that's after 2 years of having it for sale on sedo.com
and no takers. guess what, whoever bought it, will have to spend mega
$$$ to pump traffic there, but if they bought posters.com for say, $100k
they have guaranteed traffic for life, with $0 on promotion. the site would
grow by itself.

if you think .nets are worth more than a quarter of what the .com
sells for, you need to get your head checked, and maybe do some research.

how many average web surfers are even AWARE of the .net TLD? why is it
that whenever a company brands the SHIT out of their .net or other TLD
site, the .COM always gets a lot more visitors? it's because people have
.COM burned into their brains.

axelcat 04-08-2005 10:26 AM

What are your thoughts on one word .orgs?

Dirty F 04-08-2005 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I would buy yjr . net for $25,000 because it's worth that much.

you can buy .biz and spend $25,000 and end up losing on it

Why is it worth 25k? Because people say so or because the domain itself is worth it?

Luc 04-08-2005 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axelcat
What are your thoughts on one word .orgs?

unless you're thinking of running a non-profit organization, one word .orgs
are pretty much useless. people associate them with NP organizations.

on top of that, resale value is low. how many NP organizations will have
the $$ to offer $5k-$10k for a domain?

you're better of with the .info or the .us.

triumph 04-08-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axelcat
What are your thoughts on one word .orgs?

good question, I have several one word .org dating domain names that are very popular, whats your take on it dombuyer? .org's any good?

pornstar2pac 04-08-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Why is it worth 25k? Because people say so or because the domain itself is worth it?



no your right. I think domain is worth 5k-10k myself and was basing it on that

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
sorry to bust your bubble, but no chance i hell you'll get $25k for that
domain anytime soon. maybe $5k tops. $10k is a real stretch. $15k, sure
but back in 99, $25k, not even in 99.

the bottom line is this, if you have to spend millions on branding a name,
you might as well be branding winkerwinks.biz.uk and people will go there.

a good domain receives targeted typein traffic, so if i own "bigtits.com" (
which I don't), i can be pretty sure i'll get a lot of visitors typing in that
domain to see "big tits". i don't have to market the crap out of that
domain to see $$, it will make $$ on its own with no branding and no
marketing.

seems like you're trying to convince yourself here.

I suspect you have never been in advertising or branding.

Why is posters.net "better" than wink.net? Again, you don't understand branding and marketing.

Plus, you're comparing type-in names to non type-in names. There's no comparison. You're not reading what I've written.

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
i just sold posters.net, which i think is MUCH better than wink.net for
under $10k. that's after 2 years of having it for sale on sedo.com
and no takers.

So you're proving my point: you sold a .net for what, $7500? (under $10k you said)

Good for you. So you had to wait. Bet your multiple was pretty good based on what you paid if you bought after the crash.

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axelcat
What are your thoughts on one word .orgs?

The really good ones generally sell for $1k-$2500 or so.

One particular domain lord think they're better than .nets, but I think he's pretty much alone in that regard. :1orglaugh

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I would buy yjr . net for $25,000 because it's worth that much.

I disagree. Three letter .nets almost never fetch big--at least publicly.

pornstar2pac 04-08-2005 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
I disagree. Three letter .nets almost never fetch big--at least publicly.


that's atypo Dom. I didn't know how I got that in there :1orglaugh


what do you think about any other extensions. or should I only look at .com and .net

gxer 04-08-2005 02:10 PM

i have a few one worders .net , but they can't compete with 2 worder .com i bought
yesterday and parked on Sedo.
It's a first time i was really impressed with Poker domain name(never bought them before) and it's PPC revenew.
But again, it's about PPC not branding the name.
Regarding wink.net - i think it's very cool name, but not better than TeenLove.net i own which gets around 1K hits per month.

paxton 04-08-2005 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gxer
i...Regarding wink.net - i think it's very cool name, but not better than TeenLove.net i own which gets around 1K hits per month

:error

You can't use traffic stats to back up your claim that one domain is "cooler" than another. :winkwink: IMHO, wink.net is a far superior domain name than teenlove.net, although the latter is not too shabby.

As for dot nets in general.... I don't want to repeat myself... so I will just link to three days ago. :)

imaginax 04-08-2005 02:38 PM

.net names might increase in value, but .com is still a better investment

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imaginax
.net names might increase in value, but .com is still a better investment

Not necessarily, that's my point. If you can pick up a .net for $500/$1k/$2k and sell for 5x/10x over time, you could never do that with a .com given today's steep buy-in prices for .com's. :2 cents:

gxer 04-08-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxton
:error

You can't use traffic stats to back up your claim that one domain is "cooler" than another. :winkwink: IMHO, wink.net is a far superior domain name than teenlove.net, although the latter is not too shabby.

As for dot nets in general.... I don't want to repeat myself... so I will just link to three days ago. :)

For me TeenLove is cool domain, cause it brings me money and i don't need to promote it - any other reason means nothing to me.
So, wink.net is better , cause it has no traffic and income ? :Oh crap
I think wink.net is very cool domain, but i need money :2 cents:

biskoppen 04-08-2005 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
The really good ones generally sell for $1k-$2500 or so.

One particular domain lord think they're better than .nets, but I think he's pretty much alone in that regard. :1orglaugh

I have bisex.org for sale .. $2k

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 05:30 PM

Hmm, let's see how this one does..

http://new.domainstate.com/showthrea...threadid=42833

jimmyf 04-08-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer

thanks I was looking for a board

DomBuyer 04-08-2005 06:03 PM

As Pax reported in the sales thread, blonde.net went for $2200 @ enom.

paxton 04-21-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
As Pax reported in the sales thread, blonde.net went for $2200 @ enom.

After the initial Blonde.net auction defaulted it went back up for sale at Enom. Closed today at $3,100.

Horns.net went for $540 today as well. :winkwink:

:)

DWB 04-21-2005 12:54 PM

I'll never understand the domain game. I'll just stick to bangin' hookers.

Dirty F 04-21-2005 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
EXACTLY what i think.
wink.biz is possible free and 6 bucks. Now i can buy that and spend 25k on advertising or i can buy wink.net for 25k and still need to spend a similar amount on advertising. Does the surfer really care if its .biz or .net? Is it really worth 25k? I think not, so thats why i think its a game of buying and selling and its not about the domain itself, it couldve been any random product.

:thumbsup

sextoyking 04-21-2005 01:02 PM

.nets can sell for some coin to the right buyer but it's a tough road.

I sold tr.net for over 40k a few years ago but it took some time.

I get offers sometimes for tvshows.net and moviestars.net but only a few k..

JFPdude 04-21-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
EXACTLY what i think.
wink.biz is possible free and 6 bucks. Now i can buy that and spend 25k on advertising or i can buy wink.net for 25k and still need to spend a similar amount on advertising. Does the surfer really care if its .biz or .net? Is it really worth 25k? I think not, so thats why i think its a game of buying and selling and its not about the domain itself, it couldve been any random product.

Actually it does matter. Read up or do a study of peoples surfing habits. Being someone who used to go out in the field fixing computers and still goes out selling webpages and hosting I watch my customers as they wrok on their computers.

Many people type in a domain name and leave the extension off. for aol.com they type in aol and hit enter. The browsers in english defaults first to the .com extension. If one is not found then it goes to the .net and then .org

This search pattern is coded into the browsers depending on the language you are using. so wink.biz would never come up as long as wink.com .net or .org is available to be viewed.

This pattern is why certain domains get "Type in" hits.

xNetworx 04-21-2005 01:24 PM

Dom Buyer... I'll sell hugecocks.org for cheap.. ICQ if interested

DomBuyer 04-21-2005 01:46 PM

I had a $5k offer wink.net just the other day, which is about 5x what I paid for the name just two months ago. I turned it down: I think it's worth more.

You have to choose wisely and be patient.

Those people that say there's no difference between wink.net and .biz for $6.99 simply have clue. If you're selling fridge magnets, it don't matter. But if you're creating a romance/dating site that hopes to gain any sort of credibility in the marketplace, you don't brand under anything but .com or .net.

Dirty F 04-21-2005 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
you don't brand under anything but .com or .net.

Just like wink.net eh?

borked 04-21-2005 01:53 PM

caruser.com anyone?

Someone give me a break on this one!

borked 04-21-2005 01:54 PM

or igay.net

crap .net and priced accordingly for the upcoming .net boom ;)

DomBuyer 04-21-2005 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked
or igay.net

crap .net and priced accordingly for the upcoming .net boom ;)

Sorry, the 'i' kills it. 'i' isn't coming back. :1orglaugh

borked 04-21-2005 02:00 PM

aha, a little bird told me that the i's have it all
don't care anyway, it's an i[blah].net domain and it's mine. It's worthless, but it's mine.
Until I can't be arsed with it anymore!


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