The U.N. wants to control the Internet
 

is it cos i is black?

How come images of Dr.Strangelove come to mind?

http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/...trangelove.jpg

I believe it is, yes.

Can someone please nudge Kofi and let him know this quango, the "The International Telecommunication Union" is out of control and needs to be told to shut the fuck up?

There are idiots everywhere - they ain't even barred from UN membership :-)

Nice, I hope they succeed.

The UN is a useless freak show. :2 cents:

UN 100X less likely to try to ban porn than retarded consevative jesus freak republicans. I'm for it!

Why does it need regulation at all?

Before ya mutter that stuff - give a thought to who the UN are.... basically all member states, including your own.

If you consider the international community to be a "useless freak show", hell knows what ya may think of it's individual member states.

Why have goverments? every man for himself. no laws. Pure anarchy. Survial of the fittest.

Having the UN control it, is about the same as no regulation.. :winkwink:

UN control of the internet is the biggest danger to adult business ever. They're going to have to justify their existence by censoring sites deemed harmful to the community.

Harmful to the community = "hate speech, obscenity,etc"

The first thing they'll do is tax all electronic transactions. Hello world tax. We'll all be paying fees to Visa that will eventually go to unelected UN officials

Ya'll are worried about Jesus freaks but the holy rollers have absolutely no political power. They can't even save a handicapped woman in Florida, do you think they can go up against the big money porno lawyers?

I can see it now,

UN Resolution 84532 "this will be the 200th and final resolution to make spam illegal" and this time we are serious...haha

Seriously Gator - that article ain't of any consequence - it's just the opinion of one man who heads that section.

There are serious possibilities in this, but depends on what angle, or member state interest, has some input/sway.

Example... It could be used to constructively organise/co-ordinate domain name issues and get people like iCann and others working together. These folks have not exactly had a smooth track record :-)

But... the sillier side is gonna come from member states who never think of anything other than "control" - basically control freak nations.

You are right, - the UN or any of it's sub orgs have nothing to do with either censorship or giving "moral opinions" or religous views - that is just too US and they got better shit to bother with.

From personal experience, I know the UN "sub orgs" are damned excellent at organising and making stuff happen - they have an very well-qualified staff, - ignoring the odd few who like to express personal views :-)

arent they alittle late lol

No.. why you think that?

I ain't either in favor or against some co-oridination of iCann type bodies, tho if they can't work together - it needs some framework, whether that is now or 20 years hence.

I met alot of people that thought they could cntrol the internet...
None of them ever came close, infact all missed by a long shot and never had a chance.

Ya just hit back to that keyword "control" :-)

Na.. don't care who they are - it's better there is no actual control! But, if there is a level of organizational framework (nothing more!) over those who "think" they control it (iCann blah) - it may be useful.

Example.. iCann members have come out with some real weirdo shit from time to time and it may be better to cool that :-)

Well it sure beats ICANN's half assed efforts, sorry who controls the internet, ICANN or Verisign......oh nobody knows

Actually there are some stupid motions already, like having a .xxx TLD and forcing all pages that could be deemed adult to be located on .xxx I wonder if saying the word fuck on a forum is classed as 'adult content'.

Anyone pushing for internet control is way beyond "it's for the kids". Well if it's for the kids then you can supervise your kids and use 3rd party filter software. If your kid is determined to get through that, then don't you think it's time you actually talked to your own child?

The "it's for the kids" line is a crock of shit, what it means is "I don't agree with that content so i don't think anyone else should be allowed to see it" and well, tough shit to them.

"But the ITU enjoys virtually no influence over the Internet. That remains the province of specialized organizations such as the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN; the Internet Engineering Task Force; the World Wide Web Consortium; and regional address registries."

Umm yeah OK...
Micosoft? Hello?

This has to be about the stupidest artical I have read as of late.
Unfortunatly the Internet is/was a military weapn. No one organisation will be capable of ever containing it. No Government, no institution. The internet does not need ICANN nor any other fabrication. At the core of the internet is the ability for Computers to network via a telephone wire. Anyone wanna control telecommunications in the world or near capable?

NONE>
NO ONE.
ZERO.

Ya said it! :winkwink:

It's creeping in already. I got nothing against child protection, but kids ain't as stupid as adults, iCann and some politicians seem to think:-)

We are off on the "moral views" with a "domain name committee" - WTF it has it got to do with them? :-)

but wait I thought that Bush wanted to dominate the Internet?....oh guess that was another bs GFY lie, heh

I stand by my initial post... :mad:

The UN can't control a paper sack. Get the fawk outta here. The internet's the wild west. Noone will ever 'control it'.

:321GFY

We all have views and I respect yours!

Where did you learn, or for what reason, do you hate an org that actually respresents and takes instructions from it's member nations? I think that is what they call democracy, tho several nations have a unbalanced sway in this :winkwink:

Why have a government that can't stay out of peoples lives? The US government was founded on certain principles that have pretty much been shuffled out of the way to fill certain political agendas. Anarchy in its purest form is a good thing. I suggest you read Plato. Stop being brainwashed by MTVs version of Anarchy used to sell products and control your thinking and do some research on Anarchy. :2 cents:

I don't want any regulation. There really doesn't need to be any either; it just gives governments control over thought (which was always the case until the Internet). That said, it's tough trying to decide what's worse: the UN trying to find relevance in a world where the only super power ignores international law or having religious fundamentalists getting a law passed that a Supreme Court (which might be a little more religiously fundamentalist in the future) will uphold.

I don't know, it just depresses me thinking about it.

Yeah, and we all know the "Wild West" was never tamed and turned into California, Las Vegas, etc.

Dumbass.

The UN can't impose a tax on everything on the internet - that would be nearly impossible. Not to mention the Intenet opreates in countries with the UN has no authority what so ever. Can you imagine the fallout when the UN tries to shut down a site in Cuba? And the lawsuits that will come from it?

The Internet has been working fine all by itself.

Even the damn spam law hasn't changed anything, because US laws don't apply anyplace other than in the US.

First the European Union, then the World Union.

webby .. have you gotten wind of something big happening to Ibill yesterday?

I heard something from a fairly reliable source but can't find a thing about it in the news so wondering how reliable that fairly reliable source is lol

Go start an iBill thread for that.

The U.N. can suck my balls until they get rid of Koffi.

:1orglaugh Na!! Not heard anything - apart from the don't pay *anyone*, including their own management company :-)

But, and no thanks to iBill - I hear EU webmasters may have got paid yesterday with the cooperation of the EU bank and several other parties. On the US side - just hoping they get thrown in jail soon and this will give the US banks some confidence there is justice and may encourage them to release US funds.

didnt the National Science Foundation have something to do with the WWW at one time?

hmmm my source is from Visa and the news was not good ... ahh well *shrug*

Shoehorn,
wipe your tears sunshine, I'm done, thats all I wanted to know and at least I bumped your thread ;)

Your don't honestly think that's true, do you? Kofi's gone, Clinton will probably take his job. The UN controlling the internet is a pretty scary thought.

HAHA, sunshine. :)