Why JasonandAlex.com is leaving NATS.
 

I will say it one more time here and now. This was not out to harm anyone, but when another man (John Albright, owner of NATS to my knowledge) calls our Company or any of its employees liars, I am forced to defend all. I speak the truth. We run a solid business built on firm ground, and I will have words (or initiate immediate legal action) with anyone the makes such defamatory claims saying otherwise.

If anyone thinks NATS is UNSHAVEABLE then you need to see this. Here is a screencap of what NATS reports I should pay my affiliates for all rebills (recurring charges) for ELECTRACASH (one of our check processors)

5 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats01.jpg

Here is what ELECTRACASH says I should pay.

275 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats02.jpg

270 missing rebills because of NATS. FACT.

Do you know how long it takes to even find that problem, and THEN cut separate checks for the affiliates to make sure you do the right thing and they get paid for their hard work? This is one of the many problems we had with NATS and one of the many reasons we moved far away from it.

Now, you can expect John or one of his tech guys to jump on this board and give you all a line (or explanation depending on how you decide to view it) about how this is some security loophole, and it has to do with it being ELECTRACASH's fault, and so on. It always seemed to be someone else's fault when it came to the blame being pointed at NATS (and I have further proof of this as well). The only reason we went with Nats was because of the NO SHAVE feature.

This is just the beginning?

sig spot. :thumbsup

seriously though, this is some crazy shit I was thinking of using NATS now im wondering if thats such a good idea. Guess I better do my homework first. :helpme

Drama for sure

rut roh

cheers

:glugglug

wow this could be a problem.

thats a shitload of joins

Heres a sig spot

okey dokey...8 pager?

Sig spot.


:upsidedow

at least 6.

wow that's not good at all.

that is a big time difference

Holy moly. Sig spot

Now call me a liar. I speak the truth.

I told people NATs could still be used and the sponsor could shave sales several months ago... Did anyone listen? Nope :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

I still think if I was going to run an affiliate program I would use www.executivestats.com as the demo I saw of it blew my mind.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiicee...
Just when i was bored.

This is why I'm sticking to the good old fashioned ccbill affiliate software...Transparency with no bullshit and most importantly, no extra work on my part.

by the way.....See sig.

i'm guessing this will be a 6 pager min....

Yep I remember that thread and everybody jumped down your throat for it.

O SNAPPPPPPPP SON!

:winkwink: :(

See Sig ;)

weird wild stuff.

sig spots secured..icq me to discuss prebookings!

Would love to hear nats response to this!

very bad shady news. I said this along time ago when i noticed shitty stats with nats..

THE PROGRAM SHOULD NOTICE A SUDDEN INCREASE IN UNTRACKED SIGNUPS and a SUDDEN LOWERING OF AFFILIATE PAYOUTS

If they dont they know they are ripping people off.

And i think realitycash has already proven that nats can be shaved ( they werent shaving , but broken fhg's meant the nats was not tracked , ad they still got signups )

Btw. Nats has been solid for us, we don't use electracash however.

Wow that's a big difference..so far so good with our NATS sys

Fancy digging that thread up i cant find it LOL

Regards,

Lee

it will get PLENTY of views for a fact not too many replies...so i'll say 8 it'll die down after the PR starts.....


oh yeah REALITYCASH works great for TGP tarffic check it out :)

Ohhh Shit!

Dayum Chris.. so this is what you wanted to tell me over the phone last week.. That's quite a few joins to be miscounted.

No, I wanted to talk to you about Arizona, thats all. :)

I see a mushroom cloud on the horizon.....

Wow, I predict this to be one long ass thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=404688

Enjoy :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

popcorn?

hmm very shady I must say. I Know of alot of programs that left MPA because of how dodgy MPA2 was ... but now NATS... hmm who can you trust... I'm very interested to hear NATS response to this.

The problem isnt with the sponsor , they do great , less payouts/more signups

the problem is affliates aren't getting their cut.

ahh first page sig spot

:upsidedow

Now that's what I call some DRAMA ... outch

Are the majority of those untracked rebills from signups that were generated before you initially switched to NATS?

Right on..

Good question.

I don't think this comes down to a trust issue for Nats at all. They have built a good reputation. What it looks like ( I am no expert) is that they are having a problem integrating all the different biller solutions effectivley.

I am looking at all 3 big solutions and will be watching closely

Some people always see the glass as half empty look at the bright side it counted 2% of the signups correctly.

Exactly. :thumbsup

Nope...same date range from the launch....I invite ElectraCash to come on here and confirm this. We opened the Electracash account the same time we launched NATS.

Well, if you cant come up with your own stats program this is what you get.

It amazes me to see affiliates using a sponsor program that cant manage their own system internally with their own software.

Id stick with a program that is trusted and already knows how to pay their webmasters... having problems paying your webmasters whatever the excuse (NATS) may be is pathetic.

50 sig spot &

Well that is good to know. One variable taken out of the picture